2 Dearborn men arrested

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Thank you sir. Now if only La Shish were open at 10pm at night....

Friend of mine who lives near one of the La Shish restaurants says the place has been dead all day. :frown:

 

[Jaskalas]

Certainly a few bad apples certainly does not make the town bad, but it?s factual that Hizbollah HAS set up operations there. There were updates on this case tonight:

Two laundered money for Hizbollah -Ohio prosecutor

CHICAGO, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Two 20-year-old men arrested in Ohio were being held on Thursday on charges of money laundering on behalf of Hizbollah, authorities said.

The two men, Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan, of Dearborn, Michigan, were apprehended on Tuesday in Marietta, Ohio, during a traffic stop and found carrying $11,000 in cash, 12 cell phones, airline passenger lists and information on airport security, a spokesman for the Washington County prosecutor's office said.

Authorities said the men admitted to buying hundreds of telephones and reselling them in Dearborn.

Are the Hizbollah sympathizers here still going to argue that these were just honest people buying and reselling untraceable cell phones? Now you have to ignore the Hizbollah money laundering, and the airline passenger lists and information on airport security information. ESEPCIALLY in light of what has happened in Brittan this week.

 

[Red Dawn]

The bloody sectarian violence going on now in Iraq caused by the Neocons incredibly stupid push to destabilize Iraq probably has caused some moderate Arabs to become radicalized so it's a good idea to keep an them, especially the ones in the USA. They are beginning to understand that you reap what you sow.

 

[squirrel dog]

A few bad apples doesnt ruin the crop man. Consider something less borderline racist for a headline.

The problem with this as I see it is that although not all Muslims are terriosts,all terrorists ARE Muslim.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog

A few bad apples doesnt ruin the crop man. Consider something less borderline racist for a headline.

The problem with this as I see it is that although not all Muslims are terriosts,all terrorists ARE Muslim.

And most of them in the USA are from Dearborn.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

To say nothing of the same type of phones being used as the remote detonators in Madrid, Spain.

US Phones don't work in Madrid, Spain - different regulations, different frequencies.

And how in the hell would you be privy to information as to make and model of cell pone remote detonators used in a country in Europe?

Oh really? So the phone calls I made in Europe last year on my phone were not real? Or the calls I made in Colombia and Mexico? Gee, thanks, for proving your stupidity when it comes to technology.

Was that with an 'Unlocked by the dealer for foriegn use' cell phone, a Satelite Phone . . which isn't a cell phone,
or one of the newer type international cellphones that you biught specifically for use in the European community?

US Cell phones abroad

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Certainly a few bad apples certainly does not make the town bad, but it?s factual that Hizbollah HAS set up operations there. There were updates on this case tonight:

Two laundered money for Hizbollah -Ohio prosecutor

CHICAGO, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Two 20-year-old men arrested in Ohio were being held on Thursday on charges of money laundering on behalf of Hizbollah, authorities said.

The two men, Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan, of Dearborn, Michigan, were apprehended on Tuesday in Marietta, Ohio, during a traffic stop and found carrying $11,000 in cash, 12 cell phones, airline passenger lists and information on airport security, a spokesman for the Washington County prosecutor's office said.

Authorities said the men admitted to buying hundreds of telephones and reselling them in Dearborn.

Are the Hizbollah sympathizers here still going to argue that these were just honest people buying and reselling untraceable cell phones? Now you have to ignore the Hizbollah money laundering, and the airline passenger lists and information on airport security information. ESEPCIALLY in light of what has happened in Brittan this week.

It's all alleged and nothing has been substantiated yet. I'm sure you'd like to jump to conclusions right away but so far all I see is a couple guys that were selling phones to make a profit.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

To say nothing of the same type of phones being used as the remote detonators in Madrid, Spain.

US Phones don't work in Madrid, Spain - different regulations, different frequencies.

And how in the hell would you be privy to information as to make and model of cell pone remote detonators used in a country in Europe?

Oh really? So the phone calls I made in Europe last year on my phone were not real? Or the calls I made in Colombia and Mexico? Gee, thanks, for proving your stupidity when it comes to technology.

Was that with an 'Unlocked by the dealer for foriegn use' cell phone, a Satelite Phone . . which isn't a cell phone,
or one of the newer type international cellphones that you biught specifically for use in the European community?

US Cell phones abroad

Jeebus man, just do a google on GSM. Cell phones work worldwide.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Certainly a few bad apples certainly does not make the town bad, but it?s factual that Hizbollah HAS set up operations there. There were updates on this case tonight:

Two laundered money for Hizbollah -Ohio prosecutor

CHICAGO, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Two 20-year-old men arrested in Ohio were being held on Thursday on charges of money laundering on behalf of Hizbollah, authorities said.

The two men, Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan, of Dearborn, Michigan, were apprehended on Tuesday in Marietta, Ohio, during a traffic stop and found carrying $11,000 in cash, 12 cell phones, airline passenger lists and information on airport security, a spokesman for the Washington County prosecutor's office said.

Authorities said the men admitted to buying hundreds of telephones and reselling them in Dearborn.

Are the Hizbollah sympathizers here still going to argue that these were just honest people buying and reselling untraceable cell phones? Now you have to ignore the Hizbollah money laundering, and the airline passenger lists and information on airport security information. ESEPCIALLY in light of what has happened in Brittan this week.

It's all alleged and nothing has been substantiated yet. I'm sure you'd like to jump to conclusions right away but so far all I see is a couple guys that were selling phones to make a profit.

So you give automatic passes to anyone with airline passenger lists and information on airport security, $11,000 cash on them, 12 cell phones, etc. Failing to connect the dots is a critical failure. While I would presume them innocent if released, I?m not going to burry my head in the sand with what it looks like they were doing.

Speaking of which, I can't help but notice your thoughts on the war in the Middle East side with Hizbollah, and now in this case. Curious what you think of the 24 arrested in Brittan, perhaps you?d like to give them the same support?

 

[Todd33]

I smell BS, airline passenger lists and information on airport security? Any follow up on this yet?

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Todd33
I smell BS, airline passenger lists and information on airport security? Any follow up on this yet?

not much these things take time.
A second charge was added. documents were found in car. They claim they belonged to the mother who worked at the airport.
update

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So you give automatic passes to anyone with airline passenger lists and information on airport security, $11,000 cash on them, 12 cell phones, etc. Failing to connect the dots is a critical failure. While I would presume them innocent if released, I?m not going to burry my head in the sand with what it looks like they were doing.

Speaking of which, I can't help but notice your thoughts on the war in the Middle East side with Hizbollah, and now in this case. Curious what you think of the 24 arrested in Brittan, perhaps you?d like to give them the same support?

Update..

Now it's $1,100 cash, which I've had on my person on dozens of occassions. Is carrying cash illegal? And even if it was $11,000, so what? They weren't trying to cross the border with it. Let's arrest all the high rollers in Vegas for having too much money on them :roll:

Is selling cell phones overseas illegal? I know for a fact that our phones here command more money in certain overseas markets. Is there a law against selling cell phones for profit now?

And if it was indeed their mother's car, who is an airport employee, than her company can vouch for the legality of the documents.

Any other questions?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

To say nothing of the same type of phones being used as the remote detonators in Madrid, Spain.

US Phones don't work in Madrid, Spain - different regulations, different frequencies.

And how in the hell would you be privy to information as to make and model of cell pone remote detonators used in a country in Europe?

Oh really? So the phone calls I made in Europe last year on my phone were not real? Or the calls I made in Colombia and Mexico? Gee, thanks, for proving your stupidity when it comes to technology.

Was that with an 'Unlocked by the dealer for foriegn use' cell phone, a Satelite Phone . . which isn't a cell phone,
or one of the newer type international cellphones that you biught specifically for use in the European community?

US Cell phones abroad

Or perhaps just a standard phone? Seriously, get a clue dude. GSM phones work anywhere...

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Mill

GSM phones work anywhere...

Everyone doesn't have a GSM do they?
Are there not millions of non-comlpiant phones in service?

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: Todd33
I smell BS, airline passenger lists and information on airport security? Any follow up on this yet?

not much these things take time.
A second charge was added. documents were found in car. They claim they belonged to the mother who worked at the airport.
update

Thanks. I only ask because passenger list would be useless to anyone unless you were looking for specific people. And the other documents sound very ambiguous. I bet if these guys were white they would have never been locked up. But who knows what other details their are.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Mill

GSM phones work anywhere...

Everyone doesn't have a GSM do they?
Are there not millions of non-comlpiant phones in service?

860 networks in 220 countries, 2 billion GSM phones in service. Hell North Korea even has GSM coverage.

And the other major tech, CDMA, with only 318 million phones, has coverage everywhere as well, except for some of Africa, Greenland, and some (if not all) of Eastern Europe.

The vast majority of users are on either of those two services.

Same goes for those others of "non-compliant" phones. But even small share techs like iDEN still work internationally. The odds of finding a phone that won't work are slim. Old TDMA models for example, but it's a dead tech, go figure.

 

[jpeyton]

White guy in Dearborn buys cell phones to resell, he's a businessman.

Arab guy in Dearborn buys "remote detonators" to resell, he's a terrorist.

:roll:

 

[daniel49]

same thing. different place, different people.
http://www.wnem.com/Global/story.asp?S=5269589

another one this one is
White and Russian

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Certainly a few bad apples certainly does not make the town bad, but it?s factual that Hizbollah HAS set up operations there. There were updates on this case tonight:

Two laundered money for Hizbollah -Ohio prosecutor

CHICAGO, Aug 10 (Reuters) - Two 20-year-old men arrested in Ohio were being held on Thursday on charges of money laundering on behalf of Hizbollah, authorities said.

The two men, Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan, of Dearborn, Michigan, were apprehended on Tuesday in Marietta, Ohio, during a traffic stop and found carrying $11,000 in cash, 12 cell phones, airline passenger lists and information on airport security, a spokesman for the Washington County prosecutor's office said.

Authorities said the men admitted to buying hundreds of telephones and reselling them in Dearborn.

Are the Hizbollah sympathizers here still going to argue that these were just honest people buying and reselling untraceable cell phones? Now you have to ignore the Hizbollah money laundering, and the airline passenger lists and information on airport security information. ESEPCIALLY in light of what has happened in Brittan this week.

It's all alleged and nothing has been substantiated yet. I'm sure you'd like to jump to conclusions right away but so far all I see is a couple guys that were selling phones to make a profit.

So you give automatic passes to anyone with airline passenger lists and information on airport security, $11,000 cash on them, 12 cell phones, etc. Failing to connect the dots is a critical failure. While I would presume them innocent if released, I?m not going to burry my head in the sand with what it looks like they were doing.

Speaking of which, I can't help but notice your thoughts on the war in the Middle East side with Hizbollah, and now in this case. Curious what you think of the 24 arrested in Brittan, perhaps you?d like to give them the same support?

LOL when did I ever side with Hezbollah? In fact I'm emphatically against them as well as what Israel has been doing--if anything my viewpoints are quite neutral. As for the 20 odd guys arrested in the UK, I've already expressed my thoughts about that in the relevant thread, feel free to read it and then put your foot in your mouth; by the way did you also give credit to Pakistan for tipping off the UK about them? I noticed none of the neodumbservatives on the radio today mentioned it, they were too busy discussing how to genocide muslims.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Mill

GSM phones work anywhere...

Everyone doesn't have a GSM do they?
Are there not millions of non-comlpiant phones in service?

Nice fallacy. Don't change your argument in the middle of the thread. You said:
"US Phones don't work in Madrid, Spain - different regulations, different frequencies."

Completely untrue. GSM is made EXACTLY for that reason. Yes, there are still different frequencies, both most phones are dual, tri, or even quad band. They will allow you to roam on any GSM network. Yes, there are technical details depending on the phone type and other factors, but nothing that prevents someone from using a phone overseas if they want.

Get educated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_System_for_Mobile_Communications

US companies and their technology:

Cingular (IS-136, GSM, UMTS)(Joint venture: 60% owned by SBC, 40% owned by BellSouth) - 50.0 million
Verizon Wireless (IS-2000) (44% owned by Vodafone, 56% owned by Verizon Communications) - 44 million
Sprint PCS3 (IS-2000) - 22.2 million
T-Mobile (GSM) - 17.3 million
Nextel3 (iDEN) - 15.3 million
ALLTEL4 (IS-2000) - 8 million
US Cellular (IS-136, IS-2000) - 4.8 million
Virgin Mobile USA (IS-2000) - 3 million
Dobson Communications (IS-136, GSM) - 1.6 million
Cricket Communications (IS-2000) - 1.5 million
Western Wireless4 (IS-136, IS-2000, GSM) - 1.2 million
Centennial Wireless (IS-136, GSM) - 0.5 million
3Sprint PCS and Nextel have agreed to merge. Together they will have nearly 37.5 million subscribers.

World:

http://www.funsms.net/largest_mobile_phone_companies.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators

Just admit you were wrong and move on.

 

[Moonbeam]

2 Deerborn men arrested

When did deer start giving birth to men? That's not evolution as I learned it.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
2 Deerborn men arrested

When did deer start giving birth to men? That's not evolution as I learned it.

Quote from Clerks 2 is the answer to your question: "Interspecies erotica...fucko"

 

[daniel49]

Update on story



Abulhassan and Houssaiky admitted buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio and selling them to someone in Dearborn, the heart of southeastern Michigan's large Arab community.

Vessels said the men had a list detailing the specific types of phones to buy, based on the kind of microchips they contain.
"Mr. Abulhassan made a statement to officers that he knew what they were doing was wrong and that he knew no one would ever use over 600 phones for legal purposes," Vessels said.
"(He also stated) he did not know for sure, but that he believed the phones and chips were being shipped overseas."



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