2 Boston men urinate on, beat & call man "Illegal Immigrant" in Trump inspired attack

[Jaskalas]

I wonder what the responses would be if two black guys beat up and pissed on a white guy and when arrested said "Obama was right!"

I'm sure they would be EXACTLY the same, haha.

I don't know, would Obama go on national television and claim them as his sons?

 

[alien42]

Wouldn't have happened if he was in his own country and not here illegally...

wow, you are indeed showing your true colors.

the victim of this senseless crime wasn't an illegal.

you many now continue on with your xenophobia and bigotry.

 

[CPA]

per the New York Times. So, no, it's not based on "zero evidence," it's based on testimony from one of the perpetrators. Trump's reply is precious:



Keeping in mind that this is the same guy who had this to say when Megyn Kelly got death threats from alleged Trump supporters:



This guy is a like a clowncar of dumbfuckery. It pours from him like a fountain of idiocy and encourages morons to double down on stupidity, whether it's anonymous death threats over the Internet or beating the shit out of a living human being for having the wrong skin color. Such an inspiring figure to follow.

So you believe video games lead to violence, as well?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

So you believe video games lead to violence, as well?

Well, if someone beat up a hobo with a crowbar and told the arresting officer "you know, that Gordon Freeman had the right idea," yeah, I'd say they were influenced by video games. On the wider scale? No. Nor do I think that Trump's rhetoric is going to cause roving gangs of thugs to go out and assault Mexicans or Megyn Kelly in mass numbers. But I do find it ironic that the same people who will claim Muslims need to denounce the actions of terrorists (which they already do) will gladly endorse a demagogue who, while confronting his supporters making violent threats, says he "gained such respect for [them]." Crazy is going to crazy, and you can't stop that. But you don't praise the people who do crazy shit in your name by saying "they are passionate" or "they love this country." That's fucking absurd.

 

[allisolm]

the victim of this senseless crime wasn't an illegal.

Where did you see that? I haven't found it in any of the articles I've read. Just that he was a homeless Mexican citizen.

 

[alien42]

Where did you see that? I haven't found it in any of the articles I've read. Just that he was a homeless Mexican citizen.

i may have jumped the gun on him being legal, but the victim wasn't undocumented...

"The victim is not undocumented, according to a Social Security number for the man listed in the police report but blacked out for privacy reasons. Social Security numbers are issued to U.S. citizens and authorized workers, according to the Social Security Administration website."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/politics/donald-trump-immigration-boston-beating/

i guess we'll find out soon enough, but my point to ackmed remains. there is no way the brothers behind this crime, nor ackmed, could know if the victim was legal or not.

 

[shira]

That's bullshit. If I go around saying we need fewer illegals, who are mostly "rapists, drug runners, and other criminals," and the country would be better off without them, it doesn't mean I'm advocating people going around physically attacking random people who might be illegal. Not only that, but these guys didn't try to deport the "illegal" or try to get him deported, they just assaulted a random guy. Blaming Trump is bullshit.

FTFY

Yeah, it's not at all fair to draw a connection between, on the one hand, a demagogue labeling essentially all Mexicans (except for the "some, I assume, [who] are good people") as "rapists, drug runners, and other criminals" who have "got to go" and, on the other hand, crimes committed by the demagogue's followers in the name of the demagogue.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Yup, looks about right.

 

[Subyman]

From what I've seen and heard, Fox is about as anti-trump as any other channel.

 

[TechBoyJK]

The only way Trump is involved is if you want him to be and are going to shut out any common sense about personal responsibility.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Well, if someone beat up a hobo with a crowbar and told the arresting officer "you know, that Gordon Freeman had the right idea," yeah, I'd say they were influenced by video games. On the wider scale? No. Nor do I think that Trump's rhetoric is going to cause roving gangs of thugs to go out and assault Mexicans or Megyn Kelly in mass numbers. But I do find it ironic that the same people who will claim Muslims need to denounce the actions of terrorists (which they already do) will gladly endorse a demagogue who, while confronting his supporters making violent threats, says he "gained such respect for [them]." Crazy is going to crazy, and you can't stop that. But you don't praise the people who do crazy shit in your name by saying "they are passionate" or "they love this country." That's fucking absurd.

We get it. You don't like trump. You're itching and ready to affix anything negative to him that you can get your hands on, even if it means applying false logic and yelling down anybody that disagrees with you.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

We get it. You don't like trump. You're itching and ready to affix anything negative to him that you can get your hands on, even if it means applying false logic and yelling down anybody that disagrees with you.

You're partially right. It's not that I "don't like Trump," it's that I hate him with a passion that I've not had towards any US politician ever. My mother told me never hate anyone, unless it's Donald Trump, in which case fuck that guy. But it's not about my hatred for Trump. His comments on subjects like this have been objectively imbecilic. When two idiots attack a homeless person because of his skin color and invoke your name, you don't say "hey, my supporters are passionate because they love America." You condemn the actions and say "that's not what I meant you fucking morons" (perhaps with a bit more tact, but this is Trump we're talking about). I don't hold Trump responsible for the actions of drunk lunatics, but I do hold him accountable for his reaction, and even refusing to comment would have been better than what he said.

 

[flexy]

Regardless of what these people say Trump never inspired or encouraged anybody to attack illegal immigrants. Even if he had said 100% of illegals are rapists, and that is a verifiable fact, it's still illegal to attack one.

Hitler also never officially said "Kill the Jews!" (or the homeless, or mentally sick people, immigrants etc.)

Back in the days in NAZI Germany, everyone sort-of suspected what they do in concentration camps but of course no-one would have talked about it, it didn't happen "officially".

What was REAL however was the open hate mongering and blaming of Jews for whatever..in the same way as there is hate-mongering and blaming of illegals in the States RIGHT NOW in 2015.

Whether it's "illegal" to attack immigrants, what relevancy has this? I don't need to make attacking illegals illegal, creating the hate is all it takes, the rest is done by the animal brains as you can see in this example.

Or are you just looking for a straw to make what Trump says appear more "proper"?

Because..looking at it from a certain perspective... "Trump IS INDEED inspiring or encouraging to attack illegal immigrants", whether you want to accept it or not.

 

[feralkid]

You're partially right. It's not that I "don't like Trump," it's that I hate him with a passion that I've not had towards any US politician ever. My mother told me never hate anyone, unless it's Donald Trump, in which case fuck that guy. But it's not about my hatred for Trump. His comments on subjects like this have been objectively imbecilic. When two idiots attack a homeless person because of his skin color and invoke your name, you don't say "hey, my supporters are passionate because they love America." You condemn the actions and say "that's not what I meant you fucking morons" (perhaps with a bit more tact, but this is Trump we're talking about). I don't hold Trump responsible for the actions of drunk lunatics, but I do hold him accountable for his reaction, and even refusing to comment would have been better than what he said.

Well said.

 

[pcgeek11]

Here's another article on the same story: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/don...tino-man-want-this-country-to-be-great-again/

Donald Trump: Brothers who beat and urinated on Latino man ‘want this country to be great again’

oston brothers said that they were inspired by Donald Trump to beat and urinate on a homeless Latino man, police revealed on Wednesday.

According to State Police, Scott Leader and Steve Leader encountered the victim on the way home from a Red Sox game near a stop on Boston’s subway system, The Boston Globe reported on Wednesday.

The man said that he awoke to find the brothers urinating on his face and rummaging through his belongings.

“Next thing . . . he was getting hit in the face and head,” a police report explained. “He remembers being punched several times and hit with the metal pole.”

A witness said that the brothers were heard laughing as they walked away.

The man was said to be in fair condition on Wednesday after being taken to Boston Medical Center. He suffered a broken nose and bruises on his head and torso, the police report indicated.

State Police arrested the Leader brothers after being notified by a witness. One of the brothers urinated on the cell door, and both made threats to law enforcement staff after being arrested, police said.

Scott Leader, 38, told investigators that he thought it was acceptable to assault homeless people who were Hispanic.

“Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” Scott Leader said, according to the police report.

Although Scott Leader claimed that the homeless men had attacked them with a pole, the witness said that the victim was grasping the pole in self defense. The witness said she observed the Leader brothers take the pole and beat the homeless man with it.

The brothers pleaded not guilty on Wednesday to “assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, assault and battery to intimidate with bodily injury, open and gross lewdness, indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace and threatening to commit a crime,” WHDH reported. Steve Leader faced additional charges for destruction of property after police said that he punched and kicked a cell door.

Trump called the assault a “shame.”

“I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” he remarked. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”

Trump called the assault a “shame.”

Why are you attempting to pin this on Trump?

If I kill someone and say that Hillary inspired me is it her fault?

Illegals should be deported, that much is a fact. But the government has allowed so many illegals it will be impossible.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Hitler also never officially said "Kill the Jews!" (or the homeless, or mentally sick people, immigrants etc.)

Back in the days in NAZI Germany, everyone sort-of suspected what they do in concentration camps but of course no-one would have talked about it, it didn't happen "officially".

This is true. An old neighbor of mine grew up near a work camp in Nazi Germany. She said that as a young girl she thought it was odd so many arrested people were driving thru town in big trucks but almost all the trucks left empty.
She also wondered why all the rocks needed to be broken down and why they were cutting so much wood that just sat around in big piles.

 

[Darwin333]

Because those illegals are going to deport themselves peacefully?

Are you implying that Trump really means for drunk people leaving baseball games to do the deporting?

 

[MongGrel]

I'm in to watch this one.

 

[Zorkorist]

While ya'll are watching this fight, we went another billion dollars in debt.

Pity you don't watch Government so carefully.

-John

 

[CitizenKain]

While ya'll are watching this fight, we went another billion dollars in debt.

Pity you don't watch Government so carefully.

-John

Please explain why debt is bad. Show your work.

 

[Zorkorist]

Give me the 5 bucks you owe me.

-John

 

[Indus]

Trump called the assault a “shame.”

Why are you attempting to pin this on Trump?

If I kill someone and say that Hillary inspired me is it her fault?

Illegals should be deported, that much is a fact. But the government has allowed so many illegals it will be impossible.

Yes if Hillary said that person is a problem and we need to eliminate the problem. Then you go and kill that someone based on her provocation that you normally wouldn't have.

 

[Blue_Max]

Yup, looks about right.

So... who looks closer to the guy on the left? Luke Wilson or Steve Carell?

:twisted:

 

[compuwiz1]

Seriously? The state of the country is because of bad governance, not Fox, Faux, or whatever you want to call it. Did you learn that from your Pappy and Mum, or are you just another stupid narrative following fuck? Eat a back of dicks!

 

[brycejones]

Seriously? The state of the country is because of bad governance, not Fox, Faux, or whatever you want to call it. Did you learn that from your Pappy and Mum, or are you just another stupid narrative following fuck? Eat a back of dicks!

The mental image of a back of dicks is more than a little disturbing.