2 arrested in Seattle terror plot

[ProfJohn]

Nice job by the good guys and the person who turned this into the police.
That person was almost certainly another Muslim who saw the error in these guy's plot.

Two men have been arrested in a plot to use machine guns and grenades in an attack on a military recruiting station in Seattle that also houses a daycare, the U.S. Justice Department said Thursday.

Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif, also known as Joseph Anthony Davis, of Seattle, and Walli Mujahidh, also known as Frederick Domingue Jr., of Los Angeles, were arrested Wednesday night.

They were scheduled to make initial court appearances Thursday on terrorism and firearms charges.

The building, the Military Entrance Processing Station on East Marginal Way in Seattle, also houses a daycare. Recruits for all military branches are screened and processed there.
Agents became aware of the plot through someone the men tried to recruit as a participant and monitored the plot. The weapons the men purchased had been rendered inoperable, the government said.

Investigators said they have video and audio recordings of the men discussing their plans to attack the station.

Abdul-Latif and Mujahidh are charged by complaint with conspiracy to murder officers and employees of the United States, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, and possession of firearms in furtherance of crimes of violence. Abdul-Latif is also charged with two counts of illegal possession of firearms.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Seattle said the defendants initially planned to attack Joint Base Lewis-McChord but later changed targets. The defendants intended to carry out their attack with both grenades and machine guns, the government said.

"The complaint alleges these men intended to carry out a deadly attack against our military where they should be most safe, here at home," Seattle U.S. Attorney Jenny A. Durkan said in a news release. "This is a sobering reminder of our need to be vigilant and that our first line of defense is the people who live in our community. We were able to disrupt the plot because someone stepped forward and reported it to authorities."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110623/ap_on_re_us/us_recruiting_station_plot

 

[SandEagle]

always the converts. or the media just tacking on muslim (booga booga) names to folks that will never see the light of day again.

anyway, good on the aversion of any innocents getting killed

 

[Generator]

Muslims, recruiters, daycare...is there no doubt that this country is suffering a orgy of military welfare? But that is beside the point I guess.

What is curious though is how many Muslims attack these outposts/bases. Surely there are softer targets? These choice wars need to end, but as long as this cradle to the grave military welfare is in place, this terrorism will always be with us.

 

[JSt0rm]

thank god obama. lets pray

 

[PeshakJang]

Muslims, recruiters, daycare...is there no doubt that this country is suffering a orgy of military welfare? But that is beside the point I guess.

What is curious though is how many Muslims attack these outposts/bases. Surely there are softer targets? These choice wars need to end, but as long as this cradle to the grave military welfare is in place, this terrorism will always be with us.

Do you even know what the fuck you say when you start talking?

 

[OCGuy]

always the converts. or the media just tacking on muslim (booga booga) names to folks that will never see the light of day again.

Yes the media is making up the Islamic names of these retards.


You are an idiot.

 

[werepossum]

Do you even know what the fuck you say when you start talking?

Well, at least he knows the intelligence that will be displayed when he starts talking - though you'd think that would be enough to stop him.

 

[SandEagle]

Yes the media is making up the Islamic names of these retards.


You are an idiot.

from Anthony and Frederick to Abu and Walli. lol. kinda like that al-Amriki character whose a supposed muslim, but is actually a jewish convert......real name Adam Gadahn... grandson of a prominent jewish politician.

 

[OCGuy]

from Anthony and Frederick to Abu and Walli. lol. kinda like that al-Amriki character whose a supposed muslim, but is actually a jewish convert......real name Adam Gadahn... grandson of a prominent jewish politician.

Yea that is kind of how converting to Islam works. Unless you think the media reporting Kareem Abdul Jabar instead of Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr. is a NBA jewish conspiracy.

 

[spidey07]

Religion of peace. How many attempts is that under Obama now? Seems like we hear of one every few months.

-edit-
How did they acquire said machine guns and grenades? I thought I heard on the radios they were not "real" or defective in some way?

 

[nonlnear]

What is it with the FBI setting up fake terror plots? Don't they have real crimes to fight?

 

[Kadarin]

conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction

This apparently doesn't mean what it used to.

 

[spidey07]

What is it with the FBI setting up fake terror plots? Don't they have real crimes to fight?

Apparently this was no setup, somebody tipped them off. The tipper had many charges and didn't want to go back to jail.

 

[nonlnear]

Apparently this was no setup, somebody tipped them off. The tipper had many charges and didn't want to go back to jail.

The weapons were a setup. It's not clear that these suspects would have had a clue how to get weapons if the FBI didn't give them toy guns. Not to mention it's not clear how mature their plot was when the CI started baiting them into going bigger.

 

[a777pilot]

Nice job by the good guys and the person who turned this into the police.
That person was almost certainly another Muslim who saw the error in these guy's plot.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110623/ap_on_re_us/us_recruiting_station_plot

Great. Unless they are sent to Gitmo, they will return to prison where they will be celebrated and protected as heroes by the rest of the black muslims.

 

[woolfe9999]

The weapons were a setup. It's not clear that these suspects would have had a clue how to get weapons if the FBI didn't give them toy guns. Not to mention it's not clear how mature their plot was when the CI started baiting them into going bigger.

If their plot was non-serious, then whoever represents them will pose an entrapment defense. Entrapment applies where someone likely would not have gone through with something but for being tempted and/or baited by law enforcement. If no such defense is even attempted, it's a good bet that your take on this is incorrect.

 

[Anarchist420]

The weapons were a setup. It's not clear that these suspects would have had a clue how to get weapons if the FBI didn't give them toy guns. Not to mention it's not clear how mature their plot was when the CI started baiting them into going bigger.

That was exactly my first thought as soon as I saw the thread title. The government is the only one allowed to own those weapons.

Most of our troops don't even realize that they're fighting for the wrong side, but then the last time the U.S. fought on the right side was the time they fought for independence.

 

[nonlnear]

If their plot was non-serious, then whoever represents them will pose an entrapment defense. Entrapment applies where someone likely would not have gone through with something but for being tempted and/or baited by law enforcement. If no such defense is even attempted, it's a good bet that your take on this is incorrect.

That's a mighty big if you've got there.

And I'm not trying to argue that these doofuses weren't serious, only that it is likely that their ignorance and incompetence may have been enough to prevent them from posing any significant ("terror-level") threat to public safety. I'm not particularly sympathetic to these jackasses. However I don't feel any safer when I read headlines about the FBI busting another batch of fake terrorists who don't even know how to acquire weapons. I would sooner be afraid of a terrorist who knew how to obtain, well, anything.

 

[ProfJohn]

I believe the point of selling them guns is to prove that they are serious about carrying out the attacks instead of blowing smoke.

Without the guns they are just some guys talking big to impress their friends. With guns their are wannabe terrorists who are looking at a long time in jail.


Just like how the perverted justice people get their pervs to walk into the house before they arrest them. By going into the house they show that they are serious about going through with it.

 

[spidey07]

The weapons were a setup. It's not clear that these suspects would have had a clue how to get weapons if the FBI didn't give them toy guns. Not to mention it's not clear how mature their plot was when the CI started baiting them into going bigger.

I'd prefer more details and facts before I buy into that although I see your angle and it is not without merit. Knowing full and well the media wouldn't know what a machine gun or grenade is I am suspicious of what's being reported.

 

[nonlnear]

I'd prefer more details and facts before I buy into that although I see your angle and it is not without merit. Knowing full and well the media wouldn't know what a machine gun or grenade is I am suspicious of what's being reported.

If this case follows the typical pattern it could be a long time before complete facts are available to the public.

 

[Homerboy]

Religion of peace. How many attempts is that under Obama now? Seems like we hear of one every few months.

-edit-
How did they acquire said machine guns and grenades? I thought I heard on the radios they were not "real" or defective in some way?

It is a religion of peace you nut.
You're basing your opinion on the minority.

 

[Double Trouble]

The weapons were a setup. It's not clear that these suspects would have had a clue how to get weapons if the FBI didn't give them toy guns. Not to mention it's not clear how mature their plot was when the CI started baiting them into going bigger.

If someone is intent on killing / harming innocent people, even if they were too incompetent to actually make it happen, they should rot in jail and never get the chance to harm anyone.

You can't assume that all of these morons will screw up, at some point some of them will manage to get their hands on weapons and kill innocents. The FBI is doing a good job of getting them off the street before that happens.

 

[nonlnear]

If someone is intent on killing / harming innocent people, even if they were too incompetent to actually make it happen, they should rot in jail and never get the chance to harm anyone.

It's a matter of degrees. If I were on the jury and it actually turned out to be an FBI setup I would be fine with convicting them on conspiracy charges, but I would probably acquit on the weapons charges.

You can't assume that all of these morons will screw up,

Most of them really do though. The Times square non-bomber, the airborne groin burner, the London non-bomber, etc.

at some point some of them will manage to get their hands on weapons and kill innocents. The FBI is doing a good job of getting them off the street before that happens.

If the FBI is getting people off the streets who had demonstrated the knowledge and ability to execute a real terrorism plot I would be the first to applaud them. The last few years they seem to be very good at making big headlines by nabbing losers who wouldn't know an AK-47 from a super soaker - or an arms dealer from an FBI agent.