2.8 vs 3.0 Ghz and PC4000 RAM

[quiescentTrance]

If I'm going to be doing some overclocking, would it make sense to save some cash and get the P4 2.8C or can I get more out of the 3.0C?

I was reccomended to get PC4000 RAM as well and I have Corsair picked out.

Is this a good way to go?

Thanks.

 

[Navid]

I am surprised that no one has replied yet.
So, here is a bump to bring it back up again.

 

[Stormgiant]

Sorry dude, but that's too many variables to tell. What mobo and cooling are you going to use ?
Will you plan to OC mildly or a nice one ?!?

 

[ponyo]

Either CPU would be good but I would probably go for 3.0C myself. As for PC4000 ram, I wouldn't get Corsair since it's not worth the premium. I would look into Adata or Kingmax PC4000. 512mb stick should run you around $100-115.

 

[MrK6]

Don't even buy PC4000 RAM, it's a waste and a performance hit. Get some DDR400 with tight timings (2-2-2-5 is ideal) and o/c with a 5:4 divider.

Personally I'd go with the 2.8C cause you can really crank up the FSB, but if you have water cooling or something, go for the 3.0C.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: MrK6
Don't even buy PC4000 RAM, it's a waste and a performance hit. Get some DDR400 with tight timings (2-2-2-5 is ideal) and o/c with a 5:4 divider.

Personally I'd go with the 2.8C cause you can really crank up the FSB, but if you have water cooling or something, go for the 3.0C.

Not necessary true. PC3200 with tight timings like 2-2-2-5 is much more expensive than cheap PC4000 and slower at high FSB. Compare tight timing 5:4 OC machine VS very loose timing 1:1 OC machine with like 275-290 FSB. Loose timing overclock PC4000 will win pretty much all the time. Only time PC3200 can compete is if you're using something like BH5 PC3200 with insane voltage and you're able to overclock FSB heavily with relatively tight timings.

 

[Nebor]

PC4000 more than makes up for timings. Go for the PC4000 and p4 3.0C. That should max out that chip.

 

[Stormgiant]

Personally i used both setups, and if youre not into high overclocks, PC4000/4200 for high FSB is the deal.

BH-5 are only good when used in extreme OC for 260/280 fsb at 2-2-2-5 above 3.3V... i'm using mine at 3.51V

But are way expensive... I can give you all hte diferences between OCZ bh-5/GEIL PC4200 at diferent FSB with the exact same setup...

 

[quiescentTrance]

To clarify, I'm not overclocking it a ton, but would like to crank it up a bit - have never built my own PC before and don't need anything going out on me.

Right now I'm pretty much leaning toward the 3.0C with the PC4000 RAM. I've had too many bad experiences with RAM in the past to save some $$$ and sacrifice quality which is why I'm getting Corsair, as I've heard they're one of the best when it comes to quality - expensive though, haha.

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this - seems split to me..

 

[Stormgiant]

IF you get a 30cap 3.0 ( SL6WK ) youll get a good overclock and low temps...

I wouldn't buy Corsair. Too much money.
OCZ and GEIL por instance are better and cheaper. Also they have lifetime warranty.

 

[PhoenixOrion]

Originally posted by: quiescentTrance
To clarify, I'm not overclocking it a ton, but would like to crank it up a bit - have never built my own PC before and don't need anything going out on me.

Right now I'm pretty much leaning toward the 3.0C with the PC4000 RAM. I've had too many bad experiences with RAM in the past to save some $$$ and sacrifice quality which is why I'm getting Corsair, as I've heard they're one of the best when it comes to quality - expensive though, haha.

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this - seems split to me..

Geil Ultra Platinum PC4000 at 2.5-4-4-7 SPD with heavy nickel/platinum spreaders @ $265 shipped from several vendors. Stable as a rock at 2.6V. You can go 285mhz at cas3 and 2.8v. You can't beat that.

 

[ponyo]

Anything but Corsair. Ripoff IMO. Most of these ram use same Hynix chips anyways. You can buy 512mb 2.5/3 cas PC4200 Adata that will overclock to around 280-295 fsb for $124 shipped. Corsair is not going to perform better. If anything Corsair memory will be slower and won't overclock as high. You can bet it's going to be more expensive too. I'm all for paying more if it's worth it. In this case it's definitely not.

 

[charloscarlies]

Geil Ultra Platinum PC4000 at 2.5-4-4-7 SPD with heavy nickel/platinum spreaders @ $265 shipped from several vendors. Stable as a rock at 2.6V. You can go 285mhz at cas3 and 2.8v. You can't beat that.

That's what I'm using in me newly built A64 rig.

I picked up a gig at Fry's for $250 + tax. I haven't messed with it much, but it does exactly what it's rated for. 2.5-4-4-7 @ 250 mhz. Looks really sharp too.