2.53Ghz P4 vs E-450

[gmaster456]

Which one would be best for moderate office use? The machine they are using now has:

2.53Ghz Pentium 4
1gb RAM
Windows XP Pro
Radeon 4670 AGP.

Right now it is being used for Presentations, DVD playback, Youtube, Word Processing, web browsing and a few other miscellaneous things. Its being used with a monitor and is attached to a 720p Tv but the Tv is being replaced with a projector as it is being used in a conference/meeting room. It has a fresh install of XP and its slow for Youtube and having more than one thing open tends to bog it down a little. I have been tasked with upgrading the computers around the building but their budget is relatively tight, so I was looking at a computer with the following specs:

1.65GHz Dual Core E-450
2gb RAM
Windows 7 Home Premium
Radeon 6320.

I know that the 450 is a good deal faster clock for clock than the P4, but overall, would it be a solid choice considering the low budget and relatively simple demands? The only upgrades to it I plan on doing is throwing Professional on and depending on how things go, another 2gb of ram down the road.

 

[severus]

I have an emachines p4 2.8ghz with 1 gig of ram, a 160gb hdd and a radeon 7500 (THE OLDSCHOOL ALL IN WONDER MODEL LOL) at work and it's fine for web browsing, light photoshop, corel, and emailing. If they really want to upgrade on a low budget, might as well get one of those prebuilt lenovo systems or something.

 

[Blitzvogel]

E-450 eats the P4 for lunch. P4 may be going much faster, but the E-450's per core capability is better, and the processor itself is just better set up for media usage. What I wonder is if Win7, especially on only 2 GB might still be more difficult for the E-450 than XP is for the P4. Your power usage is going to be so much better, that is guarantteed. If you can get full XP support and drivers on the E-450, go with that.

 

[gmaster456]

I have an emachines p4 2.8ghz with 1 gig of ram, a 160gb hdd and a radeon 7500 (THE OLDSCHOOL ALL IN WONDER MODEL LOL) at work and it's fine for web browsing, light photoshop, corel, and emailing. If they really want to upgrade on a low budget, might as well get one of those prebuilt lenovo systems or something.

I was considering that and then just using their old computer and setting it up as a file server for them as we will also be doing work on their network as well.

 

[Arkaign]

If you haven't bought it yet, then scratch the E450 out, it's pretty crappy. Go for at least an Athlon II or G620, will be about the same price but with a monumentally better performance.

For example, this is on the Dell outlet for $279, and it includes a legal Win7 Home Premium 64-bit license, 4GB of ram, etc. Could always drop a 95W PhII X4 in there in the future as well if needed.

Inspiron 570
•Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 245 (2.9GHz, 2MB)
•Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
•Inspiron Desktop 570 MiniTower
•500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
•4 GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
•16X DVD +/- RW Optical Drive

 

[toyota]

E-450 eats the P4 for lunch. P4 may be going much faster, but the E-450's per core capability is better, and the processor itself is just better set up for media usage. What I wonder is if Win7, especially on only 2 GB might still be more difficult for the E-450 than XP is for the P4. Your power usage is going to be so much better, that is guarantteed. If you can get full XP support and drivers on the E-450, go with that.

um no. the P4 is faster per core and would beat the E-450 in single threaded performance. overall though the E-450 would certainly be faster but that is not saying much since that P4 is almost 10 years old now.

 

[frozentundra123456]

If you haven't bought it yet, then scratch the E450 out, it's pretty crappy. Go for at least an Athlon II or G620, will be about the same price but with a monumentally better performance.

For example, this is on the Dell outlet for $279, and it includes a legal Win7 Home Premium 64-bit license, 4GB of ram, etc. Could always drop a 95W PhII X4 in there in the future as well if needed.

Inspiron 570
•Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 245 (2.9GHz, 2MB)
•Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
•Inspiron Desktop 570 MiniTower
•500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
•4 GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
•16X DVD +/- RW Optical Drive

I agree about the E450. I like this chip for a netbook size device such as the HP dm1z, but dont see much place for it in a desktop. Personally, I woud prefer a Sandy Bridge Pentium to an athlon 2 because the HD2000 graphics, while not great, are better than the integrated graphics on the athlon II and the CPU is more power efficient too.

 

[gmaster456]

I was looking closely at the sandy bridge Pentiums before I saw the E-450 machine, and now that I'll be crossing that off my list, I'll likely go with the 620 as it is on the 1155 socket which has a number of upgrade options later on down the road should the need arise.

 

[toyota]

I was looking closely at the sandy bridge Pentiums before I saw the E-450 machine, and now that I'll be crossing that off my list, I'll likely go with the 620 as it is on the 1155 socket which has a number of upgrade options later on down the road should the need arise.

sounds like a much better plan.

 

[Arkaign]

I agree about the E450. I like this chip for a netbook size device such as the HP dm1z, but dont see much place for it in a desktop. Personally, I woud prefer a Sandy Bridge Pentium to an athlon 2 because the HD2000 graphics, while not great, are better than the integrated graphics on the athlon II and the CPU is more power efficient too.

I agree about the 620, it's better than the Athlon II X2. I picked that Dell assuming $$ was an issue. Hard to beat with 4GB ram and legal windows for the price

But if OP can afford a 1155 build, all the better. Either will run circles around the 450.

 

[Arkaign]

Assuming some prices here, but :

1155 mobo, $60ish?
G620, $70ish
4GB DDR3, $30ish
DVDRW $20ish
Case $30ish
PSU $30ish
500GB $100
Windows 7 HP OEM $90

= $430. If OP has access to a legal windows 7 copy already (or wants to re-use XP for some reason), then it lowers to $340.

Of course if someone can find a good deal on a G620 box for around the same price, all the better.

 

[jacktesterson]

for the OPs original question, E450 is no doubt way better solution.

 

[Taft12]

OP, are you going to get one of those Zotac or Asus SFF PCs? It's a pretty awesome match for your customer's needs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856173023

 

[sm625]

XP is so much faster and leaner that it would make the pentium seem faster.... as long as you run TuneupUtilities and defrag and CCleaner and ATFCleaner and stuff like that. Not to mention that the HD4670 can play league of legends on max settings.

1 gig with xp is about the same as Win 7 with 2 gigs. So no real difference there.