2.4C vs. 2.2-2.4gHz 1700+

Gravija

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which would perform better given teh same conditions
currently i have a 2.2ghz 1700+, radeon 9500 pro, 512 OCZ PC3200 (forgot why i bought it), NF7-S rev. 2
would this perform better than
2.4C w/SLK800U
Ti4200 asus 8420s
IS7 (abit 865PE one w/firewire)
512 corsair

i may be able to get a 9600pro for the p4 system, so all things equal, which would be better?

and could i get my AXP past 2.2 if i upped the vooltage to 1.65 or more?

thanks!
 

Duvie

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If you are still at stock or less voltage..heck yes you can get more!!!

Now for the comparison...Are you planning on ocing that 2.4c??? If so take a look around and find a proven ocing mobo. I haven't seen the rave reviews with the aopen versus other boards. 2.4c has a low multiplier so to get to a speed of 3-3.2ghz which in my opinion is needed to compete with that amd system you will need to hit mid 260's and the common i865 mobo may not do it....
 

KillaBong

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Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie
 
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Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx

theres no definite answer as each system varies, along with each cpu

if stock voltage is 1.5v, you are adding 0.3v more electric force hammering away at the insides....for very small transistors and such, thats alot (.13micron)
the smaller you got the more dangerous a voltage increase is (prime example, northwood death syndrome at around 1.7v or higher)
 
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Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx

theres no definite answer as each system varies, along with each cpu

if stock voltage is 1.5v, you are adding 0.3v more electric force hammering away at the insides....for very small transistors and such, thats alot (.13micron)
the smaller you got the more dangerous a voltage increase is (prime example, northwood death syndrome at around 1.7v or higher)

ouch, i have a 0310WMPW 1.5V that i was running at 2200MHZ @ 1.65V. i was thinking of uping it to 1.8V to get 2300-2400 out of it but i'm not so sure anymore, thanx for the heads up
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx

theres no definite answer as each system varies, along with each cpu

if stock voltage is 1.5v, you are adding 0.3v more electric force hammering away at the insides....for very small transistors and such, thats alot (.13micron)
the smaller you got the more dangerous a voltage increase is (prime example, northwood death syndrome at around 1.7v or higher)

ouch, i have a 0310WMPW 1.5V that i was running at 2200MHZ @ 1.65V. i was thinking of uping it to 1.8V to get 2300-2400 out of it but i'm not so sure anymore, thanx for the heads up

you could try 1.7v or 1.75v but that's all id go personally
and depending on the yield, i would decide afterwards
my xp2100 is at 2.2ghz fine at 1.65v, but for 2300mhz or more i need 1.8-1.85v...not worth it in my opinion

for a short period of testing to find the absolute max it won't do much, if any harm, but prolonged use at 1.8v+ would cut the life down quite a bit i would presume (if you upgrade every now and then its not a problem, but for those who wait until a new generation or two to pass by, it may end up being a problem...ive heard of a few tbred b's dying at 1.85-1.9v, so as a general rule of thumb, at least for me, i would stay under 1.75vish...1.775v is fine, but 1.8v is like the 1.7v for northwoods imo)
 
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Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx

theres no definite answer as each system varies, along with each cpu

if stock voltage is 1.5v, you are adding 0.3v more electric force hammering away at the insides....for very small transistors and such, thats alot (.13micron)
the smaller you got the more dangerous a voltage increase is (prime example, northwood death syndrome at around 1.7v or higher)

ouch, i have a 0310WMPW 1.5V that i was running at 2200MHZ @ 1.65V. i was thinking of uping it to 1.8V to get 2300-2400 out of it but i'm not so sure anymore, thanx for the heads up

you could try 1.7v or 1.75v but that's all id go personally
and depending on the yield, i would decide afterwards
my xp2100 is at 2.2ghz fine at 1.65v, but for 2300mhz or more i need 1.8-1.85v...not worth it in my opinion

for a short period of testing to find the absolute max it won't do much, if any harm, but prolonged use at 1.8v+ would cut the life down quite a bit i would presume (if you upgrade every now and then its not a problem, but for those who wait until a new generation or two to pass by, it may end up being a problem...ive heard of a few tbred b's dying at 1.85-1.9v, so as a general rule of thumb, at least for me, i would stay under 1.75vish...1.775v is fine, but 1.8v is like the 1.7v for northwoods imo)


thanx for all the info! i upgrade CPU once every 8 months or so. i think i'll go 1.8 just to see what its max is then take it back down to 1.65V. thanx again
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: ChampionAtTufshop
Originally posted by: KillaBong
Like he said, if your voltage is low, of course you can get more. I have my 2100+ at 2.3 and 1.725 volts (1.77 actual). It is safe to put it up around 1.8 volts without any problem, and some people have their's past 2 volts (this may shorten the lifespan though).

for a tbred b id stay under 1.8ish max

i agree with duvie

how much will 1.8V lower your CPU life by? thanx

theres no definite answer as each system varies, along with each cpu

if stock voltage is 1.5v, you are adding 0.3v more electric force hammering away at the insides....for very small transistors and such, thats alot (.13micron)
the smaller you got the more dangerous a voltage increase is (prime example, northwood death syndrome at around 1.7v or higher)

ouch, i have a 0310WMPW 1.5V that i was running at 2200MHZ @ 1.65V. i was thinking of uping it to 1.8V to get 2300-2400 out of it but i'm not so sure anymore, thanx for the heads up

you could try 1.7v or 1.75v but that's all id go personally
and depending on the yield, i would decide afterwards
my xp2100 is at 2.2ghz fine at 1.65v, but for 2300mhz or more i need 1.8-1.85v...not worth it in my opinion

for a short period of testing to find the absolute max it won't do much, if any harm, but prolonged use at 1.8v+ would cut the life down quite a bit i would presume (if you upgrade every now and then its not a problem, but for those who wait until a new generation or two to pass by, it may end up being a problem...ive heard of a few tbred b's dying at 1.85-1.9v, so as a general rule of thumb, at least for me, i would stay under 1.75vish...1.775v is fine, but 1.8v is like the 1.7v for northwoods imo)


thanx for all the info! i upgrade CPU once every 8 months or so. i think i'll go 1.8 just to see what its max is then take it back down to 1.65V. thanx again


yah no prob
see waht the max is and then decide whether you wanna keep it there or play it a bit safer
maybe the yield will be only 50mhz..maybe it'll be 200-300 mhz...in that case id leave it lol
or try going down in vcore in small steps and see how it responds