2-2-05 U.S. stuck at sub 10 Meg while rest of word soars up to 1 Gig Broadband

dmcowen674

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11-12-2004 AOL Tells Customers to Find New Carrier

DULLES, Va. - America Online, which earlier this year stopped signing up new broadband customers, is telling existing broadband subscribers in nine Southern states that they must find a new broadband carrier by Jan. 17.

Those customers who do not switch to a new broadband carrier by that date will have their accounts revert to AOL's traditional dialup service, said AOL spokeswoman Anne Bentley.

The company has been e-mailing its customers in those nine states that they can switch to high-speed broadband service offered by BellSouth Corp. for a special promotional rate.

Most of AOL's 23 million subscribers receive standard dialup service for $24 a month. The company will not disclose how many customers still receive the $54 monthly broadband service, which Bentley acknowledged is relatively expensive compared to other broadband pricing packages now available to consumers.
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This is what you get with a Corporation/Religious Radical Right run U.S.

Enjoy bending over everyone. You wanted it and deserve it.
 

AntiEverything

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So now you're defending mega-conglomerates like AOL/Time-Warner Dave? For gods sake, find a position and stick with it. Either you want huge corporations around or you don't.

Or are you hoping that Ma & Pa Kettle's Gumbo and Broadband Stand will be offering you cable service soon?

I never know what to make of your insane rants.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: AntiEverything
So now you're defending mega-conglomerates like AOL/Time-Warner Dave? For gods sake, find a position and stick with it. Either you want huge corporations around or you don't.

Or are you hoping that Ma & Pa Kettle's Gumbo and Broadband Stand will be offering you cable service soon?

I never know what to make of your insane rants.

Who is defending them ??? :confused:
 

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they are two differents beasts whereas AOL/TW represents media monopoly, RBOCs represent access control monopoly. although all monopolies are similiar, they are not all the same.

let us compare apples and oranges.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
they are two differents beasts whereas AOL/TW represents media monopoly, RBOCs represent access control monopoly. although all monopolies are similiar, they are not all the same.

let us compare apples and oranges.

Shhhhhhh, don't confuse the sheep.

 

alchemize

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AntiEverything

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: AntiEverything
So now you're defending mega-conglomerates like AOL/Time-Warner Dave? For gods sake, find a position and stick with it. Either you want huge corporations around or you don't.

Or are you hoping that Ma & Pa Kettle's Gumbo and Broadband Stand will be offering you cable service soon?

I never know what to make of your insane rants.

Who is defending them ??? :confused:

You're angry because you think the price of broadband internet is going to go up. You're constantly spewing venom about evil corporations, but who do you think is going to create competition in markets such as that? Small businesses?
 

dmcowen674

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The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

 

Tom

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well, they should have had phone service everywhere in a America a long time ago. I thought that was why we let the Bell system have a monopoly ?

 

dmcowen674

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2-1-2005 The Perfect Deal - Verizon Scams Pennyslyvania out of Billions

Excerpts from piece written by Karl Bode over at BBR.

In 1994 Verizon (then Bell Atlantic) struck a landmark deal with the state of Pennsylvania. The deal provided Verizon with hefty financial incentives if they met certain broadband rollout criteria. It's estimated that those financial incentives over the years clock in somewhere around $2.1 billion dollars.

As part of that agreement, Bell Atlantic agreed to have 20% of the state broadband wired by 1998, and 50% by 2004.

It's important to note that this wasn't DSL they were talking about...but 45MB/s symmetrical fiber service right to the door of homes and businesses.

Out of the 2.1 billion dollars received in the deal, $1.5 billion of it consisted of extra tax deductions. Telco critic Bruce Kushnick suggests in a report filed in February that this breaks down to $785 per household, a total he and several other telco critics believes Verizon should be forced to pay out in refunds for broken promises to Pennsylvania residents.

The state essentially allowed Verizon to completely ignore the agreement, keep all financial incentives, and provide state-wide connectivity via copper lines, ignoring the language of the original agreement.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
2-1-2005 The Perfect Deal - Verizon Scams Pennyslyvania out of Billions

Excerpts from piece written by Karl Bode over at BBR.

In 1994 Verizon (then Bell Atlantic) struck a landmark deal with the state of Pennsylvania. The deal provided Verizon with hefty financial incentives if they met certain broadband rollout criteria. It's estimated that those financial incentives over the years clock in somewhere around $2.1 billion dollars.

As part of that agreement, Bell Atlantic agreed to have 20% of the state broadband wired by 1998, and 50% by 2004.

It's important to note that this wasn't DSL they were talking about...but 45MB/s symmetrical fiber service right to the door of homes and businesses.

Out of the 2.1 billion dollars received in the deal, $1.5 billion of it consisted of extra tax deductions. Telco critic Bruce Kushnick suggests in a report filed in February that this breaks down to $785 per household, a total he and several other telco critics believes Verizon should be forced to pay out in refunds for broken promises to Pennsylvania residents.

The state essentially allowed Verizon to completely ignore the agreement, keep all financial incentives, and provide state-wide connectivity via copper lines, ignoring the language of the original agreement.

If the state allowed Verizon to change/ignore the agreement, then why is it Verizons responsibilty to payback.

The state allowed it, they could have forced Verizon to standby the original agreement.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
2-1-2005 The Perfect Deal - Verizon Scams Pennyslyvania out of Billions

Excerpts from piece written by Karl Bode over at BBR.

In 1994 Verizon (then Bell Atlantic) struck a landmark deal with the state of Pennsylvania. The deal provided Verizon with hefty financial incentives if they met certain broadband rollout criteria. It's estimated that those financial incentives over the years clock in somewhere around $2.1 billion dollars.

As part of that agreement, Bell Atlantic agreed to have 20% of the state broadband wired by 1998, and 50% by 2004.

It's important to note that this wasn't DSL they were talking about...but 45MB/s symmetrical fiber service right to the door of homes and businesses.

Out of the 2.1 billion dollars received in the deal, $1.5 billion of it consisted of extra tax deductions. Telco critic Bruce Kushnick suggests in a report filed in February that this breaks down to $785 per household, a total he and several other telco critics believes Verizon should be forced to pay out in refunds for broken promises to Pennsylvania residents.

The state essentially allowed Verizon to completely ignore the agreement, keep all financial incentives, and provide state-wide connectivity via copper lines, ignoring the language of the original agreement.

If the state allowed Verizon to change/ignore the agreement, then why is it Verizons responsibilty to payback.

The state allowed it, they could have forced Verizon to standby the original agreement.

Ding ding ding, it's rare but we have a winnar.

Verizon paid off 4 out of the 5 Council members that voted in Verizon's favor for the Agreement Ammendment allowing Verizon off the hook.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:

So according to you I can go out in the middle of nowhere in say a desert, set up a shack and declare that people "owe" me drinking water, electricity and phone service? To me that is absurd. People choose where they want to live. If I want the comforts of society I have to live somewhere where others are willing to provide them.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:

So according to you I can go out in the middle of nowhere in say a desert, set up a shack and declare that people "owe" me drinking water, electricity and phone service? To me that is absurd. People choose where they want to live. If I want the comforts of society I have to live somewhere where others are willing to provide them.

Hello, anybody answering the phone??? Ever hear of Las Vegas??? :confused:
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:

So according to you I can go out in the middle of nowhere in say a desert, set up a shack and declare that people "owe" me drinking water, electricity and phone service? To me that is absurd. People choose where they want to live. If I want the comforts of society I have to live somewhere where others are willing to provide them.

Hello, anybody answering the phone??? Ever hear of Las Vegas??? :confused:

HuH? Now you are making no sense whatsoever. Las Vegas is an entire city, not a small group of individuals living out in the boondocks demanding phone service.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:

So according to you I can go out in the middle of nowhere in say a desert, set up a shack and declare that people "owe" me drinking water, electricity and phone service? To me that is absurd. People choose where they want to live. If I want the comforts of society I have to live somewhere where others are willing to provide them.

Hello, anybody answering the phone??? Ever hear of Las Vegas??? :confused:

HuH? Now you are making no sense whatsoever. Las Vegas is an entire city, not a small group of individuals living out in the boondocks demanding phone service.

I'm not making any sense?

How do you think Las Vegas started or any other City or town in the United States.

It is very clear that if the Radicals running this Country now existed back in the 1800's the U.S. would still be inhabited by the Indians and I am happy to see we are slowly turning the Country back over to them now that I see what the Radicals have done and continue to do to this Country.
 

SuperTool

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I think they should just have built a cell phone tower instead of extending the line that far. A lot of places are going from no phone directly to cellphone around the world.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The thing to remember is that everyone has already been paying a fee for rural service, now they are adding another fee on top of that one.

1-31-2005Tiny Louisiana Community Gets Telephone Service From BellSouth in 2005 for $47,000 per line.

MINK, La. - There's a fish-fry Monday in this hamlet of 15 households to celebrate big news: phone service. Gov. Kathleen Blanco plans to call 83-year-old Mink resident Alma Louise Bolton from Baton Rouge to mark the occasion, which finally connects one of the nation's last rural areas without access to regular phone service.

"We started in early 1970 trying to get a phone

BellSouth Corp. has spent $700,000 ? or about $47,000 per phone ? to extend about 30 miles of cable through thick forests to Mink, about 100 miles south of Shreveport. All phone customers in the state will cover the cost through a small monthly charge on their bills.

Another small community called Shaw, about 80 miles to the east, recently got a cell phone tower for its few year-round residents and many hunting camps.

"It's wonderful," said Judy Ballard, 58, who lives in Shaw. "But it took me losing my husband" to get the service.

For years, she and others in the area had lobbied the PSC for some kind of phone service. Then Ballard's husband, Mike, had a heart attack in May 1998.

A neighbor raced to the top of a levee to try to get a cellular phone signal from anywhere. The 911 operator he reached was in Mississippi, and it took 90 minutes for an emergency crew to arrive.

Wtf can you expect if you live out in the boondocks? Give me a break.

Very low expectation for the United States there for you huh??? :confused:

Typically a Non Third World Country requires where there is human development to have basic essential services like clean drinking water, electricty, etc.

Oh I forgot, that doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore with the Radical Right Ruling Party, silly me. :confused:

So according to you I can go out in the middle of nowhere in say a desert, set up a shack and declare that people "owe" me drinking water, electricity and phone service? To me that is absurd. People choose where they want to live. If I want the comforts of society I have to live somewhere where others are willing to provide them.

Hello, anybody answering the phone??? Ever hear of Las Vegas??? :confused:

HuH? Now you are making no sense whatsoever. Las Vegas is an entire city, not a small group of individuals living out in the boondocks demanding phone service.

I'm not making any sense?

How do you think Las Vegas started or any other City or town in the United States.

It is very clear that if the Radicals running this Country now existed back in the 1800's the U.S. would still be inhabited by the Indians and I am happy to see we are slowly turning the Country back over to them now that I see what the Radicals have done and continue to do to this Country.

Yeah, I'm sure that the settlers demanded phone service right after they setup their homesteads. :roll:
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
I think they should just have built a cell phone tower instead of extending the line that far. A lot of places are going from no phone directly to cellphone around the world.

Also, everyone has the option of buying a global phone that uses satellite technology.
 

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