1st Nuclear Plant in US

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It looks like Vogtle will be the first US site in more than 30 years to break ground for a new nuclear power plant. The AP1000 already has been issued a design certification by the US NRC, but is currently amending the certification. This is exciting news for the country, as nuclear power is a proven safe, cheap, and reliable form of producing clean energy.

I kept telling you guys it was coming in other threads but no one ever seemed to believe me. I work in an engineering firm that does Nuclear as well as other energy plants.

http://www.world-nuclear-news...._reactors_0904092.html
 

QuantumPion

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According to the article they do not have a COL yet, and won't until 2011, which is when real construction can begin. Construction time would probably be ~3-5 years. There is a big hold on the manufacture of the reactor vessel itself, since only the Japanese have the capacity to make them now AFAIK and they have a big backlog for new reactors in S. Korea/China.
 

bobsmith1492

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
According to the article they do not have a COL yet, and won't until 2011, which is when real construction can begin. Construction time would probably be ~3-5 years. There is a big hold on the manufacture of the reactor vessel itself, since only the Japanese have the capacity to make them now AFAIK and they have a big backlog for new reactors in S. Korea/China.

This is sad. :(
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
According to the article they do not have a COL yet, and won't until 2011, which is when real construction can begin. Construction time would probably be ~3-5 years. There is a big hold on the manufacture of the reactor vessel itself, since only the Japanese have the capacity to make them now AFAIK and they have a big backlog for new reactors in S. Korea/China.

The Russians can do it too and the alternative method of welding to separate forgings (how we used to do it) is also on the table if they have to be made here. Apparently the South Koreans are also working diligently on their own forging process to break the Japanese stranglehold.
 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: Rebel44
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Good. We just need three in every state and we'd be golden.

This.

yup.


Will this new plant be on par with France's?

it had better do anything theirs will do and host p0rn sites, too, or it will be a failure...
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
According to the article they do not have a COL yet, and won't until 2011, which is when real construction can begin. Construction time would probably be ~3-5 years. There is a big hold on the manufacture of the reactor vessel itself, since only the Japanese have the capacity to make them now AFAIK and they have a big backlog for new reactors in S. Korea/China.

I was going to ask if we were actually going to build our own as I had read where that we had lost the skill to build a nuclear reactor for power generation. Just wait until we have to make our own clothes again!?!! :D
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Good, we need many more nuclear plants. It is the only currently viable "alternate solution" to coal, oil, gas, etc. It is very clean as well, and people screaming about TMI, Chernobyl, the whole country turning into a nuclear dump site, etc. don't understand how much the technology has improved in the past few decades.

Chernobyl, specifically, was just a perfect storm of incompetence, laziness, poor design, bad training, etc. TMI was a potential disaster, but showed that a meltdown could be contained, as official investigations into the incident have found that the amount of radiation released into the surrounding areas was little more than the amount in a chest X-ray.

Fearmongers have been watching The China Syndrome too much, have a vested interest in pushing "green technologies" (AKA AlGore, who has become very rich from pushing his "global warming/climate change" scare tactics), or both. :p
 
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It will be interesting to see if it actually happens. Who knows what sorts of roadblocks environmentalists, the coal industry, and the wind turbines industry will try to erect for them.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

It will be interesting to see if it actually happens. Who knows what sorts of roadblocks environmentalists, the coal industry, and the wind turbines industry will try to erect for them.

Most utilities are opting to add reactors to existing active sites, that reduces the avenues for opposition to almost none especially given that many sites were originally planned to accommodate expansion.
 

cubeless

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i'll start the pot... i bet $1 it doesn't make it to generating a single watt...
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Damn good news...it's about time. Coal must die.

I suspect radiation is worse for the planet.

While it shouldn't emit much, if any, there is always terrorism or other catastrophe to acknowledge as going to happen one day. Nuclear power is only safe in stable nations, and if any sort of civil war or violence were to break out the source of energy for a nation of would the chief target. Particularly given the massive radius of land just a single one of these would destroy.

We don't need to concern ourselves with missile defense when we build our own fallout in ticking time bombs.

You can say violence will never happen, a natural disaster or accident will never happen, but these are things that will happen in the course of human events. To pretend otherwise is folly. We are setting ourselves up big time.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Damn good news...it's about time. Coal must die.

I suspect radiation is worse for the planet.

While it shouldn't emit much, if any, there is always terrorism or other catastrophe to acknowledge as going to happen one day. Nuclear power is only safe in stable nations, and if any sort of civil war or violence were to break out the source of energy for a nation of would the chief target. Particularly given the massive radius of land just a single one of these would destroy.

We don't need to concern ourselves with missile defense when we build our own fallout in ticking time bombs.

You can say violence will never happen, a natural disaster or accident will never happen, but these are things that will happen in the course of human events. To pretend otherwise is folly. We are setting ourselves up big time.

:) Or they could just dump arsenic, anthrax, or any other poisonous material into a general public ground. Bio weapons are far more scary and easier to obtain then nuclear wastes.

As far as "radiation is worse for the planet" Well, I guess we better turn off the sun then.
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Damn good news...it's about time. Coal must die.

I suspect radiation is worse for the planet.

While it shouldn't emit much, if any, there is always terrorism or other catastrophe to acknowledge as going to happen one day. Nuclear power is only safe in stable nations, and if any sort of civil war or violence were to break out the source of energy for a nation of would the chief target. Particularly given the massive radius of land just a single one of these would destroy.

We don't need to concern ourselves with missile defense when we build our own fallout in ticking time bombs.

You can say violence will never happen, a natural disaster or accident will never happen, but these are things that will happen in the course of human events. To pretend otherwise is folly. We are setting ourselves up big time.

Our science education dollars at work.....
 

txrandom

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Damn good news...it's about time. Coal must die.

I suspect radiation is worse for the planet.

While it shouldn't emit much, if any, there is always terrorism or other catastrophe to acknowledge as going to happen one day. Nuclear power is only safe in stable nations, and if any sort of civil war or violence were to break out the source of energy for a nation of would the chief target. Particularly given the massive radius of land just a single one of these would destroy.

We don't need to concern ourselves with missile defense when we build our own fallout in ticking time bombs.

You can say violence will never happen, a natural disaster or accident will never happen, but these are things that will happen in the course of human events. To pretend otherwise is folly. We are setting ourselves up big time.

Psst...burning coal releases radiation.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: txrandom
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Damn good news...it's about time. Coal must die.

I suspect radiation is worse for the planet.

While it shouldn't emit much, if any, there is always terrorism or other catastrophe to acknowledge as going to happen one day. Nuclear power is only safe in stable nations, and if any sort of civil war or violence were to break out the source of energy for a nation of would the chief target. Particularly given the massive radius of land just a single one of these would destroy.

We don't need to concern ourselves with missile defense when we build our own fallout in ticking time bombs.

You can say violence will never happen, a natural disaster or accident will never happen, but these are things that will happen in the course of human events. To pretend otherwise is folly. We are setting ourselves up big time.

Psst...burning coal releases radiation.

Several times that of a nuclear power plant

Plus the heavy metals, the open pool slurry and ash and numerous other things that go with coal
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
What are they going to use for the water source at that site ?

The Savannah River, same as the other two currently operating units on the site.
 

Genx87

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It is about damned time. One thing Bush actually accomplished that wasnt a complete disaster. Fast tracking nuclear power licenses. Hope we build 50 more of them.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Good, we need many more nuclear plants. It is the only currently viable "alternate solution" to coal, oil, gas, etc. It is very clean as well, and people screaming about TMI, Chernobyl, the whole country turning into a nuclear dump site, etc. don't understand how much the technology has improved in the past few decades.

Chernobyl, specifically, was just a perfect storm of incompetence, laziness, poor design, bad training, etc. TMI was a potential disaster, but showed that a meltdown could be contained, as official investigations into the incident have found that the amount of radiation released into the surrounding areas was little more than the amount in a chest X-ray.

Fearmongers have been watching The China Syndrome too much, have a vested interest in pushing "green technologies" (AKA AlGore, who has become very rich from pushing his "global warming/climate change" scare tactics), or both. :p

Why can't people be pro 'green' and pro nuclear at the same time?