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1st Geforce4 (NV17) now available in Toshiba notebook.

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It's only the 32MB DDR 64 with the 64bit memory interface. Hopefully the 64MB DDR with 128bit memory interface will surface soon.

I think I'll stick with my mobile Ati 7500 🙂
 


<< Radeon 7500 market share >>



There is none to begin with. As far as I know, Radeon 7500 is only offered in Inspiron 8100 desktop replacement models, and only if you configure it (GF2Go default). ATI market share in mobile market comes from low end and integrated products.

Leon
 


<< ATI market share in mobile market comes from low end and integrated products. >>

There are several Radeon endowed PC laptops, and all Apple Titanium Powerbooks now have a Radeon in them.

By the way, what's the power usage of the mobile Geforce4 chips?
 
Well, I know a few people who wanted the Radeon 7500 because it was the fastest video solution but decided to go with the Geforce 2 Go because for the Radeon 7500, you are forced to configure it with an UXGA screen (1600x1200). That may affect some of ATI's sales.
 
Looks like a great notebook...if only I was not unemployed. It says it is not available though...has it not been released yet? or are they just out of stock?
 


<< Uh oh, the Mobile Radeon may be removed from the top performance spot in the mobile arena already! >>


Hard to say- The NV17 isn't even equivalent to a Geforce3.
I believe it'll be about the same as the Ati7500.

As far as power requirements go, that's another issue. Hopefully they have come up with something.
The current Geforce2 Go uses more power than Ati's 64MB 7500.


And sorry about posting that it is available. I assumed it was when I saw the 'add to cart button'
 


<< Well, I know a few people who wanted the Radeon 7500 because it was the fastest video solution but decided to go with the Geforce 2 Go because for the Radeon 7500, you are forced to configure it with an UXGA screen (1600x1200). >>


Too bad. I wouldn't want to pair it with any other screen. The UXGA screen is unbelievable. Put it side by side to a XGA or SXGA and it's a night and day difference.
Not to mention that Nvidia has yet to release a decent driver for the Geforce2 Go.

Even Toshiba is going to go exclusively to UXGA screens if you match it up with the new NV17.
 
There use to be some benches out, comparing NV17 to the Mobility Radeon 7500. If memory serves me correct, NV17 outperformed RV200, but ATi caught nVidia cheating by lowering the core and memory clock speeds of RV7500 for the benches. Maybe our "Ace Reporter" can dig up the info.
 


<< Not to mention that Nvidia has yet to release a decent driver for the Geforce2 Go. >>

Hmm... so it's not just me. Being the only ATer in my dept. 😉 I often get corralled into helping configuring my colleagues' laptops. Setting up Geforce2 Go machines just seems so much more of a pain than ATI-based machines for PowerPoint presentations, etc. Mind you, my iBook does it the best. 😉
 


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<< Well, I know a few people who wanted the Radeon 7500 because it was the fastest video solution but decided to go with the Geforce 2 Go because for the Radeon 7500, you are forced to configure it with an UXGA screen (1600x1200). >>


Too bad. I wouldn't want to pair it with any other screen. The UXGA screen is unbelievable. Put it side by side to a XGA or SXGA and it's a night and day difference.
Not to mention that Nvidia has yet to release a decent driver for the Geforce2 Go.

Even Toshiba is going to go exclusively to UXGA screens if you match it up with the new NV17. >>



Well, that is personal preference. I have a UXGA screen but if I could do it all over again, I would go for an SXGA+ screen. I would never go with an XGA screen though. Who uses 1024x768? But I am sure there are several people like you who would rather have UXGA screens.

And what the heck are you complaining about drivers? I have had zero problems with my Dell Inspiron 8000 notebook and I do extensive work and play games on it. Drivers for the Geforce 2 Go are excellent in my book. The whole notebook is excellent. The only complaint is that the internal pointing device will not turn off when I plug in a USB mouse (it only disables it when I plug in a PS/2 or Serial mouse). I was so happy that Clone CD works with my burner and DVD player too. My next notebook will be a Dell unless IBM starts using NVIDIA for its graphics chip.
 
The Dell's Inspiron is a little too heavy for me. I'm hoping Dell will make the Radeon 7500 Mobile available in their 4100 series notebook soon.

Actually it would be nice if HP, Compaq, Sony or IBM start using the Radeon 7500 Mobile chip. It would be nice to have an Athlon/Radeon 7500 Mobile notebook.
 


<< And what the heck are you complaining about drivers? I have had zero problems with my Dell Inspiron 8000 notebook and I do extensive work and play games on it. Drivers for the Geforce 2 Go are excellent in my book. The whole notebook is excellent. >>

Have you used the VGA output much? That's where I have most of my problems (8100 not 8000). The other annoyance I found with Dell laptops is that their Firewire ports are 4-pin non-powered ports, which kinda makes them useless for a lot of Firewire applications.
 


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<< And what the heck are you complaining about drivers? I have had zero problems with my Dell Inspiron 8000 notebook and I do extensive work and play games on it. Drivers for the Geforce 2 Go are excellent in my book. The whole notebook is excellent. >>

Have you used the VGA output much? That's where I have most of my problems (8100 not 8000). The other annoyance I found with Dell laptops is that their Firewire ports are 4-pin non-powered ports, which kinda makes them useless for a lot of Firewire applications. >>



Mostly, no but I do use use the VGA output for Outlook, Adobe Photoshop, for Clone mode with video mirroring to watch DVD videos, for designing web pages. Just curious what kind of problems you were experiencing. Yeah, I though the 4 pin thing was annoying since it wouldn't power a device but I haven't had the need for it. I have only used it for capturing video from my camcorder and for connecting my CDR.
 
If you look on the Dell forums under Inspiron and Video and scroll through the last two months- you will see the frustration people have had with the Geforce2 Go.
It's not limited Dell either. It seems to be a hit and miss situation, but after seeing hundreds of posts on bsod's, no 32bit color at other resolutions, infinate loop, etc. it makes you wonder.
Even with several bios updates and various hacked drivers, nothing seems to work. There is something definately different about the chip. That's why there is no support under Nvidia's unified drivers.

I have a feeling though that most of the problems stem from DX8 and XP. Both of which came out after this chip was designed.


 
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