1967 Mustang 2+2 fastback....... THREE MILES!.

[BUTCH1]

Turns out a previous Ford dealer bought 8 new vehicles from 1962-1969 with the idea of selling them at a later date as an investment, this was one, his wife pickes out the special lilac color and it sat inside storage forever. He would start them on occasion and let them run, but never drove them.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I am calling BS on the Mustang. I have years of experience on a 67' myself. The odometer flips @ 100,000 miles back to zero. I am seeing rust and wear in the engine compartment that didn't exist on my dad's that was garaged and had north of 150,000 miles on it didn't have rust inside the engine compartment. The wiper fluid (plastic container) is aftermarket. The Mustang had a black rubber/plastic bag for wiper fluid.

The car is in very good condition but look at the radiator. That thing has seen miles on it. Again those Mustang's odo flips every 100,000 miles back to zero.

 

[BUTCH1]

I am calling BS on the Mustang. I have years of experience on a 67' myself. The odometer flips @ 100,000 miles back to zero. I am seeing rust and wear in the engine compartment that didn't exist on my dad's that was garaged and had north of 150,000 miles on it didn't have rust inside the engine compartment. The wiper fluid (plastic container) is aftermarket. The Mustang had a black rubber/plastic bag for wiper fluid.

The car is in very good condition but look at the radiator. That thing has seen miles on it. Again those Mustang's odo flips every 100,000 miles back to zero.

Here's a follow-up vid describing how the rust and somewhat dingy engine condition happened,

The storage was not climate controlled and it seemed he never cleaned them either. if you look at the interior however it's just pristine and if it had turned over on 100K that would not be the case.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I still call BS. Nobody takes an original car and puts on an aftermarket windshield wiper fluid compartment. You can empty those and store them empty. They are like a colostomy bag. Especially a car that has only been driven 3 miles. I doubt that color is original as well.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yeah calling shens on that too, that thing does not look like a vehicle that's been sitting still in a garage for 50 years. It's got scuff marks on the shifter ffs. Carbonization on the exhaust, rust damage from water coming down the windshield and flowing through the gutter thingies, wheels are scuffed... Don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for old muscle cars, but that does not in any way look like a 3-mile car.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Yeah calling shens on that too, that thing does not look like a vehicle that's been sitting still in a garage for 50 years. It's got scuff marks on the shifter ffs. Carbonization on the exhaust, rust damage from water coming down the windshield and flowing through the gutter thingies, wheels are scuffed... Don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for old muscle cars, but that does not in any way look like a 3-mile car.

i have watched "Chasing Classic Cars" for years. They have true barn finds on that show. Basically a car is worth more completely untouched and stock than something that has been modified. When someone has an alleged mint car with very low mileage let alone 3 miles, lol. That color is not something I would think Ford would make for a Mustang. A Cadillac, sure. So when someone is trying to sell, offer, showcase a classic car. They put out feelers like youtube videos. Asking for someone to counter their claims. If nobody does question the origin or authenticity of the vehicle. They put it up for auction. Ford would never make a stick shifter for a 4 speed on a 3 speed tree. The door knobs were plastic wrapped in a fake chrome. But that is as far as plastic made it in 1967. I filled the 1967 Mustang windshield wiper fluid which was a rubber bag bladder. It was more vinyl in appearance but it looked similar a hot water bottle when you are sick.

The other issue is air filter header would be the same color as the exterior of the car. The colors do not match.

I remember when my dad flipped his 67' Mustang back to zero. We joked that nobody would know. But 3 miles is impossible during that era even on a new car.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I remember when my dad flipped his 67' Mustang back to zero. We joked that nobody would know. But 3 miles is impossible during that era even on a new car.

That's what I was thinking. For what it's worth, check out my 1972 Evinrude Sportster restoration thread. Those are 48 year old bolts in that that WEREN'T stored in a garage. In most cases, the only thing protecting the engine from moisture was the engine cover and whatever paint was on the bolts. I'm fairly certain that Mustang has way more rust on the bolts in the engine compartment than it should unless it was driven in rain during the past 50 years.

I also noticed the shifter knob was scuffed up. Who knows if that was done during driving or when they were cleaning it up.

 

[Hans Gruber]

That's what I was thinking. For what it's worth, check out my 1972 Evinrude Sportster restoration thread. Those are 48 year old bolts in that that WEREN'T stored in a garage. In most cases, the only thing protecting the engine from moisture was the engine cover and whatever paint was on the bolts. I'm fairly certain that Mustang has way more rust on the bolts in the engine compartment than it should unless it was driven in rain during the past 50 years.

I also noticed the shifter knob was scuffed up. Who knows if that was done during driving or when they were cleaning it up.

It's very difficult to get the shifter knob off. Ford was a well oiled machine in 1967. Do you think they would put a 3 speed shifter knob on a 4 speed or the other way around. My dad's Mustang was garaged for most of its life. Never had any rust on it.

 

[Pacfanweb]

All questions answered in the followup video about the pink Mustang.

It's original.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Thats the thing with classic cars and trucks. I have lost count on how many people I have met at meets that claim their 1952 Ford (or whatever they own) has original 30k on the OD. Ummm that OD flipped a couple of times I'm sure!

My 65 Ford is according to the OD is nowhere near 100K... but I know for a fact it has flipped at least once.

 

[Hans Gruber]

You don't have a car custom painted and then never drive it. If the owner took it for a spin a couple of times in the garage it would have more than 3 miles on the odo. If they said it had 300 original miles it would be more believable. Back to the last video. Who puts in an aftermarket washer fluid plastic container on a never driven 67 Mustang?

These classic car people are a funny bunch. They say nothing until they actually try to auction the car off. Then they call BS.

 

[DaTT]

I also call BS. Just the quick camera shot of the brake fluid reservoir showed signs of use....certainly more than 3.4 miles.

 

[Hans Gruber]

This is close but not a genuine windshield wiper fluid reservoir bag. For a car with 3 miles on it. Why would anybody change the winshield wiper fluid bag to a hard plastic 90's or 2000 reservoir?

Scott Drake Ecklers 1966-1967 Mustang Rubberized Vinyl Windshield Washer Bag with Cap WB-4

Ford Mustang Windshield Washer Bag - Rubberized Vinyl Bag Wi,th Gold Ford Logo - Hinged Flip Cap - Exact Reproduction - B,efore 3-1-1967

www.ecklers.com

 

[JulesMaximus]

Starting an engine and letting it idle is not good for it. Would have been better to just store it properly without running it.

 

[DaTT]

Starting an engine and letting it idle is not good for it. Would have been better to just store it properly without running it.

I was always told as long as it hit operating temps, should be fine. However that advice was for winter storage, not half a century storage.

 

[Hans Gruber]

As I said in a previous post. My dad took me in his 1967 Mustang when the ODO rolled over to zero. It ran to 99999 and turns over to 00000. It seems there are charlatans who are using this technique without having to crack open the ODO and wind it back by hand.

I wonder what excuse they have for changing the tires from the original rubber. Yeah, I don't plan on driving the Mustang. Like a time capsule that I will revisit in 50 years. Oh hell I couldn't help but change the tires on a car I never drove.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Starting an engine and letting it idle is not good for it. Would have been better to just store it properly without running it.

Old myth. Doesn't hurt a thing, as long as it runs long enough to get to operating temp.
Remember, cop cars sit and idle all day sometimes, many many times during their lives, and they live just fine.
Idling isn't bad for an engine at all.

 

[Pacfanweb]

I also call BS. Just the quick camera shot of the brake fluid reservoir showed signs of use....certainly more than 3.4 miles.

There is no "sign of use" you can tell from the master cylinder. It has what looks like some corrosion on it form sitting in a non-climate controlled building for 30 years.
If you watch the second video, they found the first guy who bought it and described the condition he got it in. It was filthy, and he had to replace the battery tray because the battery leaked on it and ruined it.

All the rust and dirty spots on the engine are easily explained by the car sitting where it did, and being warmed up occasionally.

The interior is absolutely perfect. It couldn't be that way if anyone was driving it. The car IS original. It's documented and proven that it sat for all those years, so there is no reason to believe it's not legit.

 

[Pacfanweb]

It's very difficult to get the shifter knob off. Ford was a well oiled machine in 1967. Do you think they would put a 3 speed shifter knob on a 4 speed or the other way around. My dad's Mustang was garaged for most of its life. Never had any rust on it.

Difficult? It screws on. It's easy to change the knob. And yes, that mistake could have absolutely happened.

 

[DaTT]

Difficult? It screws on. It's easy to change the knob. And yes, that mistake could have absolutely happened.

The explanation for the scuffed shift knob is weak.

 

[Ackmed]

Having a '68 Mustang, I too like many here call BS. I also have the plastic windshield wiper fluid bin, not the bag. I still have the foot pump to make it work, but original was the bag.

Old pic, but looks pretty much the same. Changed the 289 to a 302, and pulled the AC and put in a MSD ignition.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Having a '68 Mustang, I too like many here call BS. I also have the plastic windshield wiper fluid bin, not the bag. I still have the foot pump to make it work, but original was the bag.

Old pic, but looks pretty much the same. Changed the 289 to a 302, and pulled the AC and put in a MSD ignition.

Sweet Stang man. I have a 460 in my 65 F100 and I'm thinking about pulling the AC out as well. Might give a nice little bump in power.

 

[Ackmed]

Thanks. It looks diff under the hood, I can take an updated pic. Its far more dirty now, just dont keep it as clean.

I just never used the AC. I have driven it to Florida, Texas, South Carolina, and Maryland, and every state in between TN and there. I drive my car all the time, driving it today in fact. It doesnt just sit and look pretty anymore. My youngest son loves it, calls it his car. Wants to take it everywhere. AC always dropped my RPM's by a few 100, got tired of adjusting the carb getting it right where I wanted it. Put my MSD on the same side, took out the wiper fluid res. And as you said, took a bit of power from the engine.

 

[Hans Gruber]

My dad affectionately referred to his 67' Mustang as a death trap. Followed by and don't wreck it.
It lacked head rests. It was not a unibody construction car with crumple zones like modern cars. Every surface was hard, which let the human body absorb all the impact. A destruction derby car.

 

[trenchfoot]

The explanation for the scuffed shift knob is weak.

Agreed. The knob looks to have accumulated oily dirt buildup from many miles of shifting. I'm thinking one of the previous owners wanted to keep the original as a memento and swapped it out for something/anything they had on hand. Definitively speaking, that knob in that worn dirty condition doesn't match the lack of wear and tear the driver's seat is in.

An expert appraiser would certainly raise a suspicious brow over it.