1950XT is HOT

tigersty1e

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My card loads at 92C.

Granted, it's hot here in Los Angeles, but dammm.

How hot are your cards getting?

Merged "1950XT is Artifacting like crazy" thread with this thread.

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GoodJob

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Looks like you need a better heatsink. I suggest you to try the thermalright HR-3. My 1950XT idles at 45C, <60C when under load. It's OCed to 648 mhz.
 

Bateluer

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I can only see what my 2900XT runs at when I use the AMD GPU tool, which I dislike. Hopefully ATI Tray Tools or ATITool will add 2x00 support in an upcoming revision. I think ATI Tool may be dead though, haven't seen a stable release since Dec 06.
 

tigersty1e

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I'm not OCing at all. What would cause artifacts in a new card?

My temps reach 93C. COuld it be that the artifacts appear because of the heat?
 

n7

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That's not that unusual for the X19xx series, or even for the current cards if you have high ambient temps or less than ideal case airflow.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
I can only see what my 2900XT runs at when I use the AMD GPU tool, which I dislike. Hopefully ATI Tray Tools or ATITool will add 2x00 support in an upcoming revision. I think ATI Tool may be dead though, haven't seen a stable release since Dec 06.

What's wrong with Rivatuner?

Worked well for me when i had my HD 2900 XT, for temps measurement, fan monitoring, etc. as well as OCing.
 

lyssword

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make sure there is a good contact with heatsink and chip. If cooling it down doesn't help, try to RMA
 

lavaheadache

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Why is a senior member like you posting 3 threads about basically the same thing? I think you should consolidate your threads into one and leave the others to die. Forum abuse I tell ya!!
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
My card loads at 92C.

Granted, it's hot here in Los Angeles, but dammm.

How hot are your cards getting?
my card is idling at 48c. it rarely gets up to 80c, but the fan kicks in when it does and it cools back down quickly. I'm using CCC (yes I know it sucks), but iirc in ati tool it displayed the fan speeds and let you make adjustments to when/how much the fan speed kicked up. I'm in south tx and I promise you that it is much hotter here than LA, too!
 

bryanW1995

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is your fan speeding up when you get above 80c? try using CCC, ati tool, etc to monitor fan speed. It is almost definitely artifacting due to overheating.
 

tuteja1986

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bad airflow sounds like
What case are you using ?
Do you have 2x120mm rear side case fan which can dramatically reduce your gpu temp from 90 to 60.
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
I'm not OCing at all. What would cause artifacts in a new card?

My temps reach 93C. COuld it be that the artifacts appear because of the heat?

I'm sure you meant 93F, other wise it would be an impressive feat to post forum messages from a blazing inferno :)
 

bryanW1995

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no, that card will do 93c. the gpu fan defaults to 66% when core temp is 97c, then bumps up to 100% at 100c. btw, it starts at 27% and stays there until 80c, then gradually goes up to the 66 % before making the big jump to 100%. That thing is pretty manageable under 50 % but gets a little bit loud after that, but if if was dangerous to run them at 93c then the fan would go to 100% at a few C below that.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
no, that card will do 93c. the gpu fan defaults to 66% when core temp is 97c, then bumps up to 100% at 100c. btw, it starts at 27% and stays there until 80c, then gradually goes up to the 66 % before making the big jump to 100%. That thing is pretty manageable under 50 % but gets a little bit loud after that, but if if was dangerous to run them at 93c then the fan would go to 100% at a few C below that.

Good point.

Any guess on what's producing artifacts?

I'm not playing the reformat game/take out every other component and see/try out all the previous 10 driver editions/etc.

If I can't fix this with normal procedures that should fix a card, I'm RMAing this peice of sh1t.
 

manimal

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Get one of those pci slot coolers that sits right below the card to help expel hot air, there is also another pci slot cooler that I have seen that you can put above your card that has 2 smaller fans that cool the body of the card.

High ambients is something we all fight in the summer, especially after the heatwave that is upon us-dont ask Al Gore why-Dont OC your graphic card as much in the summer and keep airflow going near the pc if you cant AC the room.
 

tigersty1e

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I've done more researching and the problem isn't heat.

Others have reported lowering temps with artifacts still showing up.

RMA is the word.
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
no, that card will do 93c. the gpu fan defaults to 66% when core temp is 97c, then bumps up to 100% at 100c. btw, it starts at 27% and stays there until 80c, then gradually goes up to the 66 % before making the big jump to 100%. That thing is pretty manageable under 50 % but gets a little bit loud after that, but if if was dangerous to run them at 93c then the fan would go to 100% at a few C below that.

That's insane, 93C is almost 200F. I don't want to call you out like a ahole or anything but running electronic components of any variety at 200F is ridiculous. Even if ATI says 93C is good to go I'd seriously question that claim. If I find myself in the same boat when I get my x1950XT then cooling will be my first concern.
 

tigersty1e

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Ok. So, I've done more research and this is what I've also found....a newegg review.....

Pros: To continue with my rant about this card. As I mentioned earlier my first card was bad and rma it for a replacement. Just got the replacement card, but the same blocky discolored artifacts persisted in 3D games.

Cons: sorry not cons, but Solution: I found out later that it's my system as a whole. My system consist of a E4400 @ 2.57Ghz and Asrock 4CoreDual motherboard. The motherboard has got both AGP and PCI-e X4 slots. When I overclock my cpu to a FSB of 285MHz the PIC-e was getting overclocked as well even though it was shown as not overclocked. The solution is to set the FSB and PCI-e frequencies to AUTO mode. Everything is fine after that. I'm running Vista 32bit version with Catalyst 7.7.

Other Thoughts: The card is HOT! So use either ATI Tools or ATI Tray to change the fan speed. I have to monitors and saw that the GPU temperature went up to 75C while gaming. (idle is 45C with room @ 20C) The voltage modulator temperature get to 80C. (kind of scary) I'll need to do something about that. Good Luck gamers.


I'm at work so I can't try it out, but I HOPE this fixes my problem.
 

betasub

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
The card is HOT!

Surprised? In other breaking news, the Pentium-D may run quite warm as well :D

Better control of the fan speed should help the card temps. Making sure your PCIe frequency is stock (100MHz?) might deal with those artifacts if a lower temp doesn't.