19 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. Here's what their stories have in common.

SmCaudata

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He's a disgusting waste of space.

Asside from the amoral, sexist, and illegal part of this... I wonder how his resident supporters feel about him using the DOJ (taxpayer funded lawyers) to defend his personal behavior prior to him becoming president, especially considering that he doesn't pay taxes.
 

HomerJS

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He's a disgusting waste of space.

Asside from the amoral, sexist, and illegal part of this... I wonder how his resident supporters feel about him using the DOJ (taxpayer funded lawyers) to defend his personal behavior prior to him becoming president, especially considering that he doesn't pay taxes.
He paid more to silence Stormy then in taxes and probably tried to deduct that.
 

fskimospy

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It’s weird that we are still debating this considering he confessed on tape four years ago.

Yes, Trump is a lifelong, serial sex criminal. Anyone sane accepts this.
 
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zinfamous

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Is blackmail tax deductible? I could see it being a cost of doing business.

I mean, yes, he would try to claim it, but I think claiming an obvious illegal activity, even as "the victim," as to land yourself in pretty obvious trouble.

But is there any doubt that he claimed it under some euphemistic term? No, of course there is no doubt. I bet the exact amount of the payment can be found in his returns as a single line item.
 

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It’s weird that we are still debating this considering he confessed on tape four years ago.

Yes, Trump is a lifelong, serial sex criminal. Anyone sane accepts this.

The real question is how can a Christian society give him such support. Now that the Baptists have embraced fornication and plagerization as acts of faith. It just keeps reminding me of my childhood growing up with survivors of Nazi camps and remembering the good Christians that ran them.
 

fskimospy

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The real question is how can a Christian society give him such support. Now that the Baptists have embraced fornication and plagerization as acts of faith. It just keeps reminding me of my childhood growing up with survivors of Nazi camps and remembering the good Christians that ran them.
One of my best friends is an evangelical Christian from my hometown in Pennsylvania. While she is repulsed by Trump’s immorality most of her friends and family are not. At least from her description they basically tell themselves that what he did before is in the past, he’s better now, and any news that shows that he’s not is a lie. Anything incontrovertible - the Democrats are worse.

I suspect on some level they know they are lying to themselves but really they don’t care.
 
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ivwshane

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One of my best friends is an evangelical Christian from my hometown in Pennsylvania. While she is repulsed by Trump’s immorality most of her friends and family are not. At least from her description they basically tell themselves that what he did before is in the past, he’s better now, and any news that shows that he’s not is a lie. Anything incontrovertible - the Democrats are worse.

I suspect on some level they know they are lying to themselves but really they don’t care.

By that standard every action is in the past.
 

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"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.” - 45th President of the United States


Religion is a poor benchmark for any society. For example, the Pope is literally using his power now to influence our nation and possibly a Supreme Court Justice.

I strongly oppose Amy Conet Barret but I'm also annoyed by the Vatican making changes to Church policy as a means to an end politically in hopes to change her views on Gay Marriage. I hope it works but I can still see how it could be abused and in a way it is being abused.

Whatever happened to the ends doesn't justify the means and conflicts of interest? The constitution grants us freedom of religion, not freedom to oppress everyone with religion. FFS...

Churches should not be tax-exempt, they're highly political and influence the voting of their congregants even though that's illegal. (For them to retain their exempt status) Yet this is our nation, under God yet apart from him and ran by "Him" supported by religion.

Faith. Faith is a pragmatist's response to religion. I think many realists out there hold faith but do not espouse religious dogma. Here-in is where it gets problematic. The dogmatic, the cultic - the borderline codependent upon the reliance and will of someone else than your own, and or a person on earth representing that. Yeah you hear words like that hell no you shouldn't hold high office or be a judge.
 
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SmCaudata

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One of my best friends is an evangelical Christian from my hometown in Pennsylvania. While she is repulsed by Trump’s immorality most of her friends and family are not. At least from her description they basically tell themselves that what he did before is in the past, he’s better now, and any news that shows that he’s not is a lie. Anything incontrovertible - the Democrats are worse.

I suspect on some level they know they are lying to themselves but really they don’t care.
I often get, "a person's relationship with God is private. If says he's Christian we should believe him." Its lunacy. They have no problems judging everyone else. Hell, one person in the family has a doctorate in ministry and is liberal; those same "Christians" that defend Trump as God's will pray for the pastor in the family ti "return to Jesus."

Modern evangelicals are a cult, nothing more. They certainly aren't Christians.
 

trenchfoot

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Evangelical Christians are an odd lot in that their faith in Trump is justified from and solidified by their faith in their god. Just how their god told them that Trump was to be blindly trusted no matter the insurmountable evidence that he shouldn't be is something I think a whole lot of them would rather avoid right about now.

Reconciling that must take a whole lot of faith and zero amount of logic and common sense though. This infallibility they put in those that told them Trump was the answer to all their prayers is something they need to keep querying their leadership about until they get a sound logical answer to that, but then again blind faith trumps all in their world it seems.
 

fskimospy

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I often get, "a person's relationship with God is private. If says he's Christian we should believe him." Its lunacy. They have no problems judging everyone else. Hell, one person in the family has a doctorate in ministry and is liberal; those same "Christians" that defend Trump as God's will pray for the pastor in the family ti "return to Jesus."

Modern evangelicals are a cult, nothing more. They certainly aren't Christians.
Yes, it is abundantly obvious that for the most part they use their personal preferences first and mold their faith around that. My friend is the rare exception - its why after being a lifelong Republican she voted for Democrats from 2016 on.
 
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