19" Laptops

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With so many DVDs featuring letterboxed or wide-screen versions of films, consumers' fascination with larger screen sizes is changing the size and shape of the laptop industry, stated an IDC report issued on Monday. The wide-screen format, found in only 39.2 percent of laptops expected to ship this year, will become dominant in mid- to late 2006. It will nearly eclipse standard screen dimensions by the end of 2009, the market research firm estimates. Samsung has already unleashed its upcoming 19-inch laptop. The product is expected to ship later this year. Dell, a major partner of Samsung, could easily adopt the large screen format for its high-end XPS laptops. And, LG Philips is also touting its 20-inch LCD displays for laptops."

19" Laptop

Samsung last week launched the first notebook to feature a 19-inch display at a trade show in Berlin. Besides having the high-end specifications worthy of a true desktop replacement, it will possibly feature the industry's first detachable 19-inch LCD display which is capable of 1,680 x 1,050 native resolution. The LCD panel will also have a DVI port which will allow it to function as a desktop monitor.

The rationale for a detachable display is driven by cost. Traditionally one of the most expensive components of a notebook, the M70 is upgradeable by simply switching the base component and reusing the display. The cost is further reduced since the display can double as a desktop monitor. Though large-screen notebooks tend to weigh the same as a bag full of bricks, the 4.4kg M70 is not much heavier than other 17-inch LCD desktop replacements like the Toshiba Qosmio G20 and the Fujitsu LifeBook N6210.

Upside: With a 19-inch display, this notebook is wonderfully suited for those doing publishing and graphics work. The 290-nits brightness ensures that even in direct sunlight you can see the display clearly. Coupled with a remote control, a dedicated Nvidia Geforce Go 6600 graphics card and a 2.1-channel speaker system, the M70 can be used for a romantic movie with that special someone on a Saturday night, or a session of intense gaming with your buddies.


Downside: Though the base system is upgradeable, it may not be cost-effective to do so unless Samsung intends to implement a trade-in deal for older M70 base systems.


Outlook: Depending on the price, this system has the potential to become a worthwhile solution to notebook upgrading. The fact that the 19-inch LCD is detachable and uses a common input gives the M70 both versatility and reusability. Though it is certainly innovative in terms of notebook design, we feel it is likely this design will be confined to niche product lines.
 

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People rag on the huge laptops (myself included), but they do serve a purpose. Being in college, many people need a computer that is easy to move in/out of the dorms a couple of times per semester. A regular laptop would be less powerful, have a smaller screen, and likely cost more. These larger laptops do serve a certain market segment very well.
 

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I have a huge Compaq laptop with a 15.4" screen. I really wish I'd have gone with something smaller. It's fast and very powerful but man is it heavy.
 

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
People rag on the huge laptops (myself included), but they do serve a purpose. Being in college, many people need a computer that is easy to move in/out of the dorms a couple of times per semester. A regular laptop would be less powerful, have a smaller screen, and likely cost more. These larger laptops do serve a certain market segment very well.

small laptop + docking station & external LCD = winnAr

edit: as far as power, unless these people are doing multimedia editing or lots of gaming, the currents system should be more than capable for whatever they need
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: toekramp
kinda defeats the whole purpose of mobility... i'd rather have the 10" Sony

I'd rather have an affordable 10" or 12" laptop (ie: not a Sony or Apple laptop)
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: toekramp
kinda defeats the whole purpose of mobility... i'd rather have the 10" Sony

I'd rather have an affordable 10" or 12" laptop (ie: not a Sony or Apple laptop)

eh, my coworker has a T series and it is most likely the sexiest piece of technology ass i've laid my hands on
 

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I got a huge 15.7 in Gateway Laptop. It served its purpose well when i lived on campus at school, but now that I live off campus, I am shopping for laptop that strains my shoulders less.
 

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
People rag on the huge laptops (myself included), but they do serve a purpose. Being in college, many people need a computer that is easy to move in/out of the dorms a couple of times per semester. A regular laptop would be less powerful, have a smaller screen, and likely cost more. These larger laptops do serve a certain market segment very well.

small laptop + docking station & external LCD = winnAr

edit: as far as power, unless these people are doing multimedia editing or lots of gaming, the currents system should be more than capable for whatever they need


You still don't get it. Say a student lives in the dorms and goes home for 3 or 4 days every 3-4 weeks. That person would need:

2x docking stations
2x external LCDs
1x laptop

The important thing is that there are many pieces to carry around. How long does it take to get the laptop ready to go home? 30 seconds? How hard is it to box everything up? More difficult?
 

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Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
we've come full circle. Luggables have made their triumphant return.

I threw out an old compaq luggable last summer, one of the first ones :)
 

Goosemaster

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psycholical development of laptop purchasers:

1) i want to replace my desktop laptop and want something cool (buys somethign cheap and small)

2) realizes the limitations and decides to go all out getting a 20lb moster with all the goodies, all the bells, for goo's sake, even more whistles

3a) client matures, realises that he didn't get any work done and that his lappy doesn't allow him too (game temptation, movie temptation, low battery life, pain to carry around due to weight and embarrassment due to the lappies' embodiment of an oxymorn)

3b) client puchases an IBM t or X series

4) client has sex on the beach, alcoholic or otherwise;)
 

mzkhadir

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had a toshiba satellite 15" before now I have dell 300m slowly dying out and making me want to pick up another small one.
 

0roo0roo

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why video ipod isn't that important:) if u got two hours to sit..u can probably use a laptop instead
 

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
People rag on the huge laptops (myself included), but they do serve a purpose. Being in college, many people need a computer that is easy to move in/out of the dorms a couple of times per semester. A regular laptop would be less powerful, have a smaller screen, and likely cost more. These larger laptops do serve a certain market segment very well.

small laptop + docking station & external LCD = winnAr

edit: as far as power, unless these people are doing multimedia editing or lots of gaming, the currents system should be more than capable for whatever they need


You still don't get it. Say a student lives in the dorms and goes home for 3 or 4 days every 3-4 weeks. That person would need:

2x docking stations
2x external LCDs
1x laptop

The important thing is that there are many pieces to carry around. How long does it take to get the laptop ready to go home? 30 seconds? How hard is it to box everything up? More difficult?

You still don't get it. Say a student lives in the dorms and goes home for 3 or 4 days every 3-4 weeks. That person would need:

2x Worlds Strongest Man winner.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
People rag on the huge laptops (myself included), but they do serve a purpose. Being in college, many people need a computer that is easy to move in/out of the dorms a couple of times per semester. A regular laptop would be less powerful, have a smaller screen, and likely cost more. These larger laptops do serve a certain market segment very well.

when compared to a full-sized desktop and CRT, it looks good for college students. But a shuttle+LCD will be cheaper, more powerful, and just as mobile as one of those giant laptops.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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Originally posted by: shud
I have a huge Compaq laptop with a 15.4" screen. I really wish I'd have gone with something smaller. It's fast and very powerful but man is it heavy.
That's the same way I feel about my eMachines m6805 :p
P/S : Going on sale next week - anyone wants dibs? ;)
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: toekramp
kinda defeats the whole purpose of mobility... i'd rather have the 10" Sony

I'd rather have an affordable 10" or 12" laptop (ie: not a Sony or Apple laptop)

Apple 12" iBooks start at $1000 or $800 for current generation refurbed models. That's not expensive for such a small machine.

We love ours :)
 

TallBill

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when i was in college i had 2 pcs.. both at school, with 19" monitors. if i needed a computer at home, i'd use the computer that i built for my mother before leaving.


laptops are pointless at school unless you need them IN class for something.

IE: there is computer necessity in a classroom that doesn't already have computers.


 

acemcmac

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I love my Dell D610. I can't stomach the idea of anything bigger or heavier though. I have a 220lb productivity/gaming studio at home- why would I need a heavyweight laptop when I commute with it so much....
 

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: toekramp
kinda defeats the whole purpose of mobility... i'd rather have the 10" Sony

I'd rather have an affordable 10" or 12" laptop (ie: not a Sony or Apple laptop)

eh, my coworker has a T series and it is most likely the sexiest piece of technology ass i've laid my hands on


That T is absolutely amazing. I'd rather have that than any other laptop too.

In terms of size/weight, I think the Panasonic Toughbook Y2 is hard to beat though. I bought one for my wife, and it's a great laptop.

14.1" 1400 x 1050 screen
Integrated DVD/CD-RW
3.4 lbs

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...No=Toughbook-Y2&surfModel=Toughbook-Y2

That's only 0.1 to 0.4 lbs heavier than those 10.6" screen equipped laptops. This one comes with a high resolution 14.1".
 

freegeeks

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I have an Inspiron 6000 and IMHO it's perfect as a desktop replacement that you can easily carry around.