19-27" LCD TV, gaming/tv/monitor

[felony]

I am completely new to widescreens LCD, and infact am still on a 19" CRT. It is a good monitor, but I really want something with multiple video/HD inputs for future TV and xbox 360, as well as a nice crisp, sexy LCD to act as my new PC monitor.

I have looked at the standard widescreen LCDs from Dell, but I do not think they have the right inputs, and defintaly dont include TV tuners. The 24" dell has component inputs, but i heard not to the highest HD standards.
The dell LCD TVs have tuners as well as component inputs, but dont have a great response time !!! ack!

Some of what I have been looking at -->
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889107001
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/product...are.aspx/tv_cat2?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs (26" or 19")
also an insignia from best buy (27")


What do you guys think is the best idea.

I am gonna be playing PC games, CSS, DODS, bf2, fs2004, xbox360 and watching dvds, and some analog, maybe digital cable.

any tips suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
thanks
dan h

 

[pkme2]

Samsung has a widescreen that's easy on the eyes and you should consider if you doing long hours of gaming, plus it's great looking too.

http://pcworld.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=2574856/


http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=C10847

 

[felony]

thanks for the suggestion..

I am looking at keeping things at or below 1000 USD..

dan

 

[Xyo II]

well, you could just get any monitor you want for ~900, and then get this its great, I got one, high quality, playing super mario on lcd is uber, uber awesome. comes with a remote, accepts coaxial, vga, and stereo analog

 

[felony]

Originally posted by: Einstein Element
well, you could just get any monitor you want for ~900, and then get this its great, I got one, high quality, playing super mario on lcd is uber, uber awesome. comes with a remote, accepts coaxial, vga, and stereo analog

will a nice apple cinema, or other widescreen LCD, with that tuner, be able to play xbox360. I didnt see a component input on that tuner.. hmmm

edit-there is component input, but only 480i. also the resolution only goes up to 1280x1024, which is smaller then most monitors in the 7-800 range.

dan

 

[pkme2]

Check these prices, for 26"
http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=800417241&uwb=uwbc10054
BUY IT NOW! price is $849.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

You can get a good idea why this unit is sold out on many online websites. Samsung makes a lot of monitors for Dell. I have two LCD monitors made by Samsung, both Dells. I rate them excellent. You be the judge.*

*Someone just got the same Samsung 26" earlier for $800.

 

[ballmode]

That samsung has a contrast of 3000:1 unlike that viewsonic which is 900:1


Sams club has the 26" for 1100, and the 23" for 800

 

[felony]

800 for which 23" @ sams?

thanks
dan

 

[ribbon13]

What's your budget?

If you want something the truly rocks -> Westinghouse LVM-37w1

If that's too big, stick to the Dell 2405FPW

 

[felony]

never mind, found it.

if anyone was wondering as well

http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_shop...h=0:-23542:-23589:-24298:-36941:926826

 

[Scott78945]

What about the Gateway 21" LCD with HDCP in it?

 

[felony]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's your budget?

If you want something the truly rocks -> Westinghouse LVM-37w1

If that's too big, stick to the Dell 2405FPW

about the dell 2405FPW.

I know it has component inputs, ideal for xbox360. But I understand that it is only up to 480p. Also, it isnt hdtv capable, or is it? what would analog/digital tv look like on it, if i had a standard tuner?

 

[pkme2]

good deal on 23".

 

[felony]

Originally posted by: Scott78945
What about the Gateway 21" LCD with HDCP in it?

i am considering it, reading a review currently here
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1798

 

[ribbon13]

ATSC21

Has DVI/HD15 output for computer monitors.

 

[felony]

this is a dumb question but,

LCDs are progressive by nature, correct?

with proper hdtuner, would that not make it a HDTV?


side note, what does analog cable signal look like on a LCD screen? horrible, comparable to a direct view crt, or better then crt?

thanks
dan

 

[felony]

Ok, I have searched alot... and i am still looking at these based on price and performance from what I ahve read.

I have heard great things about these TVs from Olevia.
http://secure.syntaxgroups.com/products/detail.jsp?pid=LT26HVE
> 15:9 Widescreen Aspect Ratio
> HDTV Display Ready
> 750:1 Aspect Ratio
> 1280 x 768 Native Resolution
> Response Time: 12ms

http://secure.syntaxgroups.com/products/detail.jsp?pid=LT26HVX
26" ÖLEVIA LCD TV
> 16:9 Widescreen Aspect Ratio
> HDTV Display Ready
> 1200:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio
> 1366 x 768 Native Resolution
> Response Time: 8ms

http://secure.syntaxgroups.com/products/detail.jsp?pid=LT27HVS
27" ÖLEVIA LCD TV
> 16:9 Widescreen Aspect Ratio
> HD Ready
> 750:1 Contrast Ratio
> DVI w/ HDCP Compatibility
> 10w X 2 Detachable Speakers
> 12ms Response Time

http://secure.syntaxgroups.com/products/detail.jsp?pid=LT27HVX
27" ÖLEVIA LCD TV
> 16:9 Widescreen Aspect Ratio HD Ready
> HD Ready
> 750:1 Contrast Ratio
> DVI w/ HDCP Compatibility
> 10w X 2 Virtual Surround Sound
> 12ms Response Time

http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcdtv/n2750w
27" color TFT active matrix, wide 1280x720 LCD
Optimum Resolution 1280x1024
Contrast Ratio 900:1 (typ)
Response Time 8ms gray-to-gray (avg)
Brightness 550 cd/m2 (typ)
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Glass Surface Anti-glare, anti-reflective coat

These are the ones I am really looking at.

I am leaning towards the Olevias because I hear good things from them, but I also hear the viewsonic is good and it has 51+ great reviews from newegg.

-->Like I said, I want this TV as a nice monitor for PC. I will be doing occasional to heavy gaming. Work stuff, word and excel.
-->XBOX360 has to look nice on it, and I believe it will on any of these with the component inputs.
-->DVDs need to look good coming from my computer (dvi out).
-->I want analog cable to look nice, or at least comparable to my normal direct view crt in the living room.

any other opinions thus far?
oh yeah, any chance these prices may drop after thanksgiving/black friday?]

thanks
dan

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: felony
this is a dumb question but,

LCDs are progressive by nature, correct?

with proper hdtuner, would that not make it a HDTV?


side note, what does analog cable signal look like on a LCD screen? horrible, comparable to a direct view crt, or better then crt?

thanks
dan

I don't know if you found the answers to these already...

LCDs are progressive.

Depends on the res of the display if it's really giving you HD.
1280x720 would be needed to get you 720p.
1920x1080 for 1080p or 1080i.

How an analog signal will look depends on the particular TV.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Your links don't work.

 

[felony]

Thats what I figured. So actually all that is needed for HD is resolution.

Again, that is what I though. I must have been tripped up in this HD craze.

Still though, I am loooking at the TVs linked above.


side note...

this dell lets me do 1900x1200
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/Prod...98&cs=19&l=en&Page=productlisting.aspx


this tuner, lets me output component, rf, etc via DVI to my monitor.
http://www.aver.com/products/tvtuner_AVerTV_box9.shtml

dont laugh, but a HDtuner will take a rf/coax cable signal and convert to HD via component/HDMI to the tuner which sends to LCD.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product....path=0%3A3944%3A3964%3A133270%3A164116

That would essentially give me HDtv .. no?

A monitor that supports that resolution. A tuner that conversts signals to the monitor. And a HDtuner that converts analog/digital cable to HD signal to send to tuner to send to monitor?

Am i completly confused or what?

 

[felony]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Your links don't work.

links fixed

dan

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

"Supports Resolution up to 1280 x 1024 (SXGA)"?

 

[felony]

so the highest you could go is 720p.

I saw that, but didnt saw anything..

I may be confused abotu the HDtuner but i think everything else I am talking about is right on.

who knows, i sure am confused. based on what I am finding, an LCD with an add on tv tuner will never be as good as a normal LCD TV with all the inputs. The best tuner I can find outputs 480i, ack!

dan