18-and-up only restaurant - could someone sue?

MichaelD

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I dislike children. I think that's a well-known fact around here. I find them upsetting and annoying.

I save my money all week so I can take my GF out to a nice dinner. You know, do the "bottle of wine and small talk so we can get cozy later" thing. :)

Invariably, we get sat next to, or they soon put, a table full of screaming, ill-mannered brats right next to us. They are sneezing, puking, whining, crying, throwing toys, food and utensils all at the same time. This bothers the crap out of me. The parents do NOTHING to quell this behavior. They force their children upon everyone else. How rude.

9-times-out-of-10, I wind up getting up, approaching the parents and saying "excuse me, your daughter/son just hit me with a piece of lettuce for the fourth time...coud you possibly do something about this?" Of course, this results in a fight and my night is ruined. Again. I'm not shy and have no problem approaching these parents. Or someone smoking in a no-smoking section. Anyway...

I will never, never understand the logic of taking a 3-month old newborn baby to a nice restaurant. They plop the carrier/car seat and the diaper bag on the table (unsanitary to say the least) and the baby screams the entire time. Leave the kid w/the sitter. If you can afford to be out eating, you can afford $10 to have the neighbor kid watch the infant. Duh. :confused:

It's gotten to the point that as the host/hostess is walking us to our table, we'll say "no, not there...don't want kids next to us" and request another table. We always get a dirty look. It's really sad. BTW, my GF and I are very clean cut and we dress nicely. We're both kinda preppy, if that helps you draw a mental picture.

I have this dream of opening up an "Adults Only" restaurant. This has NOTHING to do with sex.

I want to open up a classy restaurant where people can come and spend good money to get great food and service WITHOUT worrying that some screaming child is going to ruin their romantic evening. I want it to be 18-and-up in order to remove the "punk-kid-teenager with the Marilyn Manson T-shirt and the nose ring" factor as well. We'll have a dress code too.

Could someone sue me for discriminating against their "precious little babies?" This is hypothetical, as I've not a pot to pee in and don't know the first thing about running a restaurant...I can cook my @ss off, though! :)

Fire away. :)
 

Texmaster

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Sadly, the Adults only phrase is limited to porn when it comes to any establishment bearing that name.

I think you are on to something though.

Right now if you want to stay away from children, a 4 or 5 star restaurant is your best shot but not a guarantee.
 

MichaelD

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<< Right now if yuo want to stay away from children a 4 or 5 star restaurant is your best shot but not a guarantee. >>



Hi Tex, Good morning. Where we live, we have some pretty nice places. I don't know if they are "star" restaurants, but they are expensive!!! You get the nicely dressed folks...with nicely dressed, bratty kids, unfortunately. :( *Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* Someday.....
 
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I don't see any reason this would be unlawful - generally as a private business owner you can impose whatever standards you want, as long as you don't run afoul of any specific law (e.g., the Civil Rights Act of 1964) that prohibits a particular form of discrimination. Knock yourself out!
 

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You seem to be saying that you only want to eat food with people who are just like you. I have rarely if ever been stuck next to noisy kids and they have always left me alone.
I would never be able to eat at your restraunt, as I don't believe in dress codes. ;)
 

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you should make it clear to the hostes b4 sitting down that you dont want to sit near kids, maybe even give a tip
 

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<< I think Chinese restaurants generally keep these lil critters away pretty well. :D. >>



They keep em' away by feeding them back to you!!
 

Texmaster

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<< Right now if yuo want to stay away from children a 4 or 5 star restaurant is your best shot but not a guarantee. >>



Hi Tex, Good morning. Where we live, we have some pretty nice places. I don't know if they are "star" restaurants, but they are expensive!!! You get the nicely dressed folks...with nicely dressed, bratty kids, unfortunately. :( *Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* Someday.....
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I wasn't trying to be snobby at all. If I gave that impression I apologize.

My point was even at 10-15 dollars a plate you are going to see kids, get up to the big bucks and kids are not around as much.

I like your idea! :D
 

MichaelD

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<< You seem to be saying that you only want to eat food with people who are just like you. I have rarely if ever been stuck next to noisy kids and they have always left me alone.
I would never be able to eat at your restraunt, as I don't believe in dress codes. ;)
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Sheesh, you're lucky. I can't go eat out anywhere w/o being inconvenienced by rugrats. People "just like me?" You mean "childless?" Actually, I have a 6-year old son that doesn't live with me. Any he is a brat...that's his mom's fault, but that's another thread.

Naw, I have no problem sitting next to Whites/Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Martians/Gays/Lesbians/etc as long as they have no kids with them.

And Fred, we'll have a special little "no dress code" section just for you and your buds...right next to the back entrance to the alley....;)
 

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<< You seem to be saying that you only want to eat food with people who are just like you. I have rarely if ever been stuck next to noisy kids and they have always left me alone.
I would never be able to eat at your restraunt, as I don't believe in dress codes. ;)
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I have no problems with the dress code.

I have been to a lot of restaurants and never had a problem with kids screaming and bothering me as such.
 

MichaelD

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<< I wasn't trying to be snobby at all. If I gave that impression I apologize >>



Tex, you didn't give that impression at all...sorry if you thought that I thought you did (does that make sense? :confused: ) Warm fuzzies all around! :D
 

GasX

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May I suggest revising your concept of a "nice" restauraunt. Step up to the plate and take your girlfriend to a really "nice" restaurant, and you shouldn't have a problem.

And to answer your question, as long as you make it clear you are not family friendly, you shouldn't have a problem.
 

Texmaster

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<< I wasn't trying to be snobby at all. If I gave that impression I apologize >>



Tex, you didn't give that impression at all...sorry if you thought that I thought you did (does that make sense? :confused: ) Warm fuzzies all around! :D
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LOL good.

And I LOVE your idea. One thing though, if you do decide to build this restaurant, you MUST have a neon sign and alarm that says "Didn't Wash Hands" that lights up and goes off when random people come out of the bathroom. :D
 

MichaelD

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<< you MUST have a neon sign and alarm that says "Didn't Wash Hands" that lights up and goes off when random people come out of the bathroom. >>



LOL! Wanna laugh? At my primary place of employment, all the bathrooms are "Handicapped Equipped" with the automatic door openers..you just have to hit the button.

I will not touch the door handle...I hit the button and let the motor open the door. I do this b/c there are a lot of guys that come out of a stall...look in the mirror over the sink....and walk out. What's missing here? Oh yeah, the washing the hands part is missing! :p


What's gross?

Seeing someone leave the bathroom after coming out of a stall and not washing his hands.

What's grosser than gross?

Having to touch the same door handle that the person who didn't wash their hands just touched. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
 

MichaelD

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<< And to answer your question, as long as you make it clear you are not family friendly, you shouldn't have a problem. >>



Hmm. I have to try this quote next time I'm out. "Table for two, please. No smoking. And oh, we are not "family friendly." I wonder if they'll understand, though?
 

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It funny you mention this because I have a huge problem with this as well. I too almost started a post about it.
Im one of those people, who like yourself, will even go out of my way to approach the parents depending on the situation, and I always ask to be seated away from the children.
WHY people bring their kids to resturants baffles me. What the hell does a 3 year old gain from going to Outback Steakhouse, or any other resturant for that matter? They probably dont enjoy it any more then they would eating at home,and they most likly wont even remember it!
People should have some common decency and respect and simply shouldnt bring their toddlers to resturants. I cant even believe classy resturants allow it, its ridiculous.
It seems every time I go out to eat, whether Its a Dennys or a really nice resturant,even if I'm not seated by the kid,I can hear this incessant whining/crying in the background.
If there were resturant which didnt allow this they most definitley would get my buisness much higher priority then those other resturants.
 

Gunbuster

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Burn some candles and pray at home, my mom had the psycho waitress curse for a long time but seems to have beaten it (crosses fingers)
 

Texmaster

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<< And to answer your question, as long as you make it clear you are not family friendly, you shouldn't have a problem. >>



Hmm. I have to try this quote next time I'm out. "Table for two, please. No smoking. And oh, we are not "family friendly." I wonder if they'll understand, though?
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LOL
 

Nitemare

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Ask to speak to the manager, then demand to either be moved or have them moved. If you had wanted a food fight with brats you would be at Mickey D's and not at his establishment. You'll get moved to another area plus you might get your meal comped for your inconvenience.

If you open that restaurant up and the food is halfway good, I'll be there...
 

Ns1

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tip the hostess to keep any/all kids away from you

money talks, loudly ;)
 

BDawg

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I think you're just afraid of seeing a mother's naked breast. ;)

I agree with you 100%, but it's not just babies. Recently, our evening at a resturant was ruined by a group of 13 year old girls at a birthday party. Even though the manager segregated them to the opposite corner as the other customers, they still made enough noise that we had to speak in rather loud voices...not the relaxing dinner I had in mind.

Personally, unless I'm in a 4-5 star resturant, babies don't bother me as long as they're not the noisy type. Parents know if they have babies who are quiet in public or not. I just wish they would try to be considerate of the rest of us.

If you have noisy kids and babies then please go to Chucky Cheese. Otherwise, leave the noisy kids at home.

If you try to go to a more adult resturant (usually one connected with a bar), the smoke is horrible. My mom helped pass a reforendum in her county that required all resturants to maintain special ventilation systems for the smoking areas. I don't know why they can't do that everywhere.

Ever notice that the wait is less or non-existant for the smoking section? That should be a message to the management that they need a bigger non-smoking section and smaller smoking section...or just outlaw smoking at your resturant.