17 yo criminal gets heart transplant, dies in carjack/high speed chase 2 years later

[dainthomas]

Hahaha, perfect. If Dick Cheney can get a heart transplant it seems basically impossible to deny it to anyone else due to a perceived lack of morals.

This is a tough situation. Allowing someone to die because they were shitty as a teenager seems like a really harsh thing to do, but then when the hospital shows mercy things like this can happen. It seems like this was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

I thought he got an artificial one that made it so he literally has no pulse?

 

[positivedoppler]

Wow unbelievable. I hope nobody missed out on a heart transplant to put him in line.

 

[norseamd]

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/dick_cheney_even_bigger_monster_than_you_thought/

 

[norseamd]

http://news.discovery.com/human/cheney-new-heart-personality-10327.htm

 

[Subyman]

One story like this doesn't mean we need a complete revision of the system.

 

[Hugo Drax]

He was given a second chance, no one stopped to think if he'd appreciate it.

It's probably automatically assumed he's a good person. Which isn't off the mark in most cases, but in this case it clearly was.

 

[echo4747]

How long before the Doctors who gave him a heart transplant are sued? They were clearly negligent. Clearly he needed a brain transplant before the heart transplant

 

[glenn1]

One story like this doesn't mean we need a complete revision of the system.

Yet one story is enough for you to say we need a complete revision of the capital punishment system. Funny how you always seem to be on the side of those who commit crimes.

 

[Mursilis]

One story like this doesn't mean we need a complete revision of the system.

The "system" originally denied him the transplant, but then the race card got played, and the "system" got overruled.

On a happier note, at least the citizens of that state were spared the expense of feeding/housing/paying public defenders for this clown for the next 50+ years.

 

[fskimospy]

The "system" originally denied him the transplant, but then the race card got played, and the "system" got overruled.

On a happier note, at least the citizens of that state were spared the expense of feeding/housing/paying public defenders for this clown for the next 50+ years.

Where did you get the idea that 'the race card' was played?

 

[soccerballtux]

ya know....

I don't know.



Part of me wants to agree that this kid was a waste of a heart but the bigger part of me doesn't think anyone on this planet has the right to judge our sins to see if we live or die.

it was never about the person being disciplined for their own good, it's always been about punishment to discourage someone from doing the same to OTHER people in the FUTURE.

When people fuss over death-row they're basically saying 'we're willing to risk the lives that will be taken by people like this person in the future. We don't value their lives'.

China's crime rate is 1/100th that of ours because they have extremely swift retributive punishments. You killed someone? Your life is over. By the end of the week.

Criminals live in the moment. That's why you provide very-real-pain-next-week to discourage them.

 

[Kadarin]

They successfully pulled the race card to get the heart. Kudus!

It really says something that black people were trying to attack the reporter here.

 

[smackababy]

Clearly, he was suffering from some kind of mental problem. Who in their right mind would like the Falcons?

 

[Pneumothorax]

You know, that g-d scar down the middle of his chest should have reminded this fool every single day of the life he was given -- of the life lost and the second chance he got to live as a decent human being.

As a person of color, I just think about how stupid some of us can be and how stupid actions like this create further uproar.

You mean 3rd fircken chance! Not only was his prior criminal record already a reason why he shouldn't have gotten a 2nd heart, but damn fool and his stupid ass mother is why the first transplant failed as they didn't have him take the FREE transplant anti rejection drugs.

Given how rare donor hearts are, most likely someone else died over a lack of an available heart.

 

[dali71]

Where did you get the idea that 'the race card' was played?

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/roswell-pd-fleeing-burglar-shoots-at-victim-hits-p/nkjdM/

The hospital reversed course and Stokes received a heart after his mother and critics from civil rights organizations contended he was denied the heart because he was poor, black and had trouble with the law, which his mother said was for fighting.

But the real reason he was initially denied was for non-compliance: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/01/us-usa-georgia-heart-idUSKBN0MS4TU20150401

Anthony Stokes, 17, who had an enlarged heart, initially was denied a transplant at an Atlanta hospital two years ago for failing to take his medicine and not showing up for doctor’s appointments, according to his family.

Of course the hospital couldn't have publicly stated that at the time, as HIPAA regulations forbade it.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Where did you get the idea that 'the race card' was played?

Why do you feign ignorance?

 

[halik]

They successfully pulled the race card to get the heart. Kudus!

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Subyman]

Yet one story is enough for you to say we need a complete revision of the capital punishment system. Funny how you always seem to be on the side of those who commit crimes.

You really are dumb. Capital punishment again? I thought you got owned enough already.

151 people exonerated from death row:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

This kid didn't deserve another heart, but it doesn't show a systemic problem, like I said.

 

[JackBurton]

Ah, he was so close to going to college and turning his life around.

 

[CZroe]

I was at Perimeter Mall for hours this morning (work related). Guess no one wanted my Corolla.

 

[positivedoppler]

Its even more tragic base on the fact two people had to die . He died, somebody else who was bumped out of the list died and of course the lady he ran over.

 

[inachu]

Could have sworn there was a news report with heart transplants patients who act funny afterwards.

I wonder who the heart belonged to.

Never accept body parts from people who were from death row or in jail.


Other news reports of a woman who hated chocolate ice cream but after a heart transplant she craved chocolate and she had her doctors contact the living family members of the person who donated the heart and agreed that yes their now deceased daughter was a chocoholic.

 

[CZroe]

Its even more tragic base on the fact two people had to die . He died, somebody else who was bumped out of the list died and of course the lady he ran over.

Pretty sure the person he hit with the stolen car is not dead.

Anyway, I'm waiting to talk to my coworker about this because he made shoplifting stops at the Stonecrest Dillard's store last year and I am curious to know if he is the one who stopped this guy.

I'm suddenly realizing just how dangerous this can be. A week ago we got two girls to ditch a bunch of stuff in the restroom but he followed them to the door while it was being verified. The girls left without incident, but there were two seemingly unrelated guys already at the door who left shortly after. Sure enough, they met up outside. These guys were clearly the muscle who would have done something to him if he made a move to confront the girls. There was no indication that they were together and I only figured it out after the girls left so it would have been a surprise.

 

[smackababy]

Could have sworn there was a news report with heart transplants patients who act funny afterwards.

I wonder who the heart belonged to.

Never accept body parts from people who were from death row or in jail.


Other news reports of a woman who hated chocolate ice cream but after a heart transplant she craved chocolate and she had her doctors contact the living family members of the person who donated the heart and agreed that yes their now deceased daughter was a chocoholic.

Are you crazy, is that your problem?

 

[Ichinisan]

Could have sworn there was a news report with heart transplants patients who act funny afterwards.

I wonder who the heart belonged to.

Never accept body parts from people who were from death row or in jail.


Other news reports of a woman who hated chocolate ice cream but after a heart transplant she craved chocolate and she had her doctors contact the living family members of the person who donated the heart and agreed that yes their now deceased daughter was a chocoholic.

Sounds like bullshit or just random, unrelated coincidence. I believe your physiology would go through a lot of changes with all the anti-rejection drugs and other drugs, other necessary diet changes, etc. There's a high likelihood of developing different cravings like a chocolate craving -- even if the donor heart was another chocolate hater.