Zebo, are you obsessed with the X2 or somthing???
Bashing intel sure is fun.
Intel motherboards are expensive because:
The are the most stable.
They are the best period.
Bashing intel sure is fun.
Intel motherboards are expensive because:
The are the most stable.
They are the best period.
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The stability arguments are complete FUD. Intels had to recall whole chipsets..820..aletrwood..grantsdale etc/ AMD has'nt ever. Nor have thier partners AFAIK. I would say AMD is way more stable than Intel now because most of the work of chipset is offloaded into CPU now with onboard mem controller. But I don't like to spread FUD without statistics so I wont unlike these FOS posters.
Those were all FUD too back in the day. http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q1/010122/kt133a-16.html
"The most important finding was the enjoyable fact that each of the tested boards ran 100% stable even at the fastest possible memory timing settings. VIA's upcoming DDR chipsets may not look too impressive right now, but the Apollo KT133A is a matured, fast and solid product that offers good performance."
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-02.html
"AMD Processors are significantly less expensive than Intel processors although they are at least on par in terms of performance. - FACT"
"AMD processors are incompatible. - LIE
Not that the average guy who just heard that phrase would know what the heck 'incompatible' is, but it sounds really bad, doesn't it? Well, even the people who do know that 'incompatible' means that a product wouldn't work reliably with other components (which of course is bad) are wrong if they accuse AMD's Athlon or Duron processors of it. In our labs we are testing all kinds of Athlon platforms with all kinds of different components and I can definitely say that I cannot see any difference between the compatibility of AMD products and platforms compared to the same from Intel."
"Chipsets for AMD processors are inferior to Intel chipsets. - LIE
Yeah, sure, the earth is flat and politicians are honest ... I am still amused when I see people posting the above message in news groups or as their response to articles. How many more times does Intel need to screw up their chipsets (i820, MTH, ...) until you guys get the message? . . . Incompatibilities are more a problem of the motherboard BIOS than of the chipset right now. Thus both chipset makers, Intel as well as VIA, are actually in the same situation."
:::sigh:::Tom::: I guess some things will never change, four years later still hearing the same ole' BS
How about ANAND? You know the guy who reviews hardware professionally seeing thousands of products a year, the guys been using AMD servers for four years now, because thier unreliable?? IMO There is actually no more effective endorsement of the stability and reliability of AMD platforms than the fact that AnandTech uses them as the sole platform for the web serving of its main site and forums.
Hell even Intel says Prescott has 31 bugs which will hard lock your machine Opteron had 1 which was fixed on CG's and above.
But again, I don't like to spread FUD without statistics so I wont unlike these FOS posters.
Did you mention the fact that the majority of people in this forum use AMD's because of thier reliability and rock-solid performance? AMD pwns Intel. Why?
1.cooler
2.faster
3.better chipset
4.more stable
5.better gaming
6.it isn't Intel
It's not like I don't have Intels, It is just that Amd makes a far superior processor
:shocked:
1.cooler
2.faster
3.better chipset
4.more stable
5.better gaming
6.it isn't Intel
It's not like I don't have Intels, It is just that Amd makes a far superior processor
:shocked:
Dadofamunky
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Care to share some benchmark numbers from that bad boy you've got there? (Sorry, don't mean to hijack.)
Well if he was obsessed about any over chip you could call him insane, but it just so happens he?s ecstatic about the world?s fastest dual core X86 chip for commercial use (Yes the X2).
And don?t start with this AMD unstable crap, if your going to dig into the past lets take the p*ss for Intel?s old problem of not being able to divide correctly (FPU Bug ) ?You mean 2.00000000 + 2.000000000 doesn't equal 3.999998456??
It's fine if you dont agree to pay a premium but intels chipset is the best
Your the noob because you obviously dont even have one of intels latest chipsets.
I'm tempted to chime in ... but I won't... 
Use whatever makes you happy. I'll stick with Intel.
PS I'm curious if anyone reading this thread has been around long enough to recall a time when I (yes, I) was regarded as "AMD's biggest fanboy" ...
Use whatever makes you happy. I'll stick with Intel.
PS I'm curious if anyone reading this thread has been around long enough to recall a time when I (yes, I) was regarded as "AMD's biggest fanboy" ...
Aenslead
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Where do you want pics sent on my P4 570J setup with Intel i915P mobo? I can send them right away, should you want.
But explain, please... does "not having an Intel chipset" make me a n00b? your post seems to imply so.
And since you are soooo on the subject, please, tell me, why is an intel chipset better than... say... an nVidia chipset?
Capt Caveman
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Capt Caveman
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The newer Intel Chipsets are excellent in all of the listed categories. If you're interested in learning more about Intel Storage Matrix.
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/matrix-raid/index.x?pg=1
Aenslead
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Great! "newer Intel Chipsets"; nForce 3 250 and nForce 4 have been on the market for about... almost a year and a half and 7 months respectly, which have exceled in quality, performance and stability, and Intel is just about to "catch" on with a pair of chipsets that are not out in the market in quantity and only from three or four vendors (Intel, Asus and Gigabyte).
Thankyou for the link, but I went to Intel's Integrator Tour a couple of months ago and learned about those things. I do not doubt they are great chipsets at all, but they are hardly "the best" or even "worth the premium", in my opinion.
Thankyou for the link, but I went to Intel's Integrator Tour a couple of months ago and learned about those things. I do not doubt they are great chipsets at all, but they are hardly "the best" or even "worth the premium", in my opinion.
Capt Caveman
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I also meant the 925x and 925xe chipsets. And premium? The Intel Nvidia NF4 chipset is almost double the price of a 955x. Also, folks have been having horrible problems with Intel NF4 boards. Heck, they can't even support dual core. And why do motherboard makers like Abit and Gigabyte have to add audio chipset/cards with Nvidia chipsets? Intel chipsets can also handle faster memory speeds. Check OC and XS systems, you won't find anyone that hasn't been pleased with the quality, performance and stability of the Intel chipsets from the last year. You might be thinking of the past and AMD only. I'm talking about now.
Aw, give it up. These AMD zealots wouldn't admit the truth if it bit 'em in the arse.
Anyone who argues the stability of Intel chipsets is an idiot. Period.
Anyone who argues the stability of Intel chipsets is an idiot. Period.
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