16 years in USA, Y U No get citizenship!?

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chucky2

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Maybe...but one would think being on the meds would make the logic skillz kick in more, which doesn't explain his alternate account posting in this thread. Who knows...wacked out is wacked out...
 

peonyu

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People like her are common. In Miami its easy to run into people who have lived here for 20+ years and either speak zero English, or at best can mutter something like "me undstand no?". It comes down to a local illegal community that enables them to not have to adapt to the US and learn English. They can just live around other illegals, speak Spanish only, watch telemundo for TV, use Spanish windows for the internet etc. Illegals number in the thousands in small towns, and in the millions in cities like LA/Miami. So community wise illegals are not lacking one at all. Its booming infact. And of course ignorance plays a large role to. They are ignorant enough to illegally enter this country, so why is it a surprise they are so ignorant to make no effort to learn English ? Its not a surprise at all to me.

Employers also dont care if the illegal janitor is a "no speaka" since he works for less pay. All in all, illegals are wanted here by the US Government and that is why there are millions of illegals here. The US authorities are told to ignore illegal aliens and allow them to stay here untouched. The US government is more responsible for the current situation with illegal aliens swarming the nation than anything else if you get down to it, because if we did ID people and if we did profile people...most illegals would be rounded up and booted out within a years time.
 

Bitek

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I was thinking the exact same thing....

Please, you are missing the sarcasm. Perhaps I should have written it in all caps and sent it from an AOL account & signed by Uncle Cletus?
It doesn't take much to write an idiotic chain letter filled with half-truths nor use it to prove your wacky beliefs.

Sorta like dumb bumpersticker statements: ie

How to annoy a liberal: Work Hard and be Happy.

See all sorts of these on pick-up truck back windows, right under the gunrack and next to the Calvin pissing sticker. Says classy only like a pair of truck nuts can.

Hey I got some more for sale:

Annoy a Republican: Learn about Science and buy a house with a foundation

Confuse a Tea Partier: Tell them their Confederate Flag is upside down


Yea! Stereotypes are awesome. Makes for some useful conversation..
 
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halik

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A widowed mother who was married to a US citizen and is apparently now the primary care-taker and guardian of 4 children, who are also US citizens.

I am assuming prejudicial bigotry upon this women makes it easier to deem her unworthy of sharing US citizenship, with yourselves.

Ideologues demand she be deported, leaving a strong question to the support and stability these children may retain. More than likely, such disrupted sibblings will become a greater burden upon your state. Yet ideology seems to dictate over pragmatism....

Race card is by far the dumbest argument to bring to this discourse. I guess I'm anti-white as well, since my views towards illegal immigrants don't change for eastern europeans either. Damn those honkeys.
 
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Double Trouble

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I think far too many people are insensitive to immigrants.

There's a difference between legal and illegal. I'm an immigrant, but a legal one.

Where did your family come from? How did they get here?

Legal immigration vs illegal immigration.

But yeah.. .uprooting and tearing apart a family is just a great idea, right?

Nope, that's never a good thing, and I don't think anyone would think that's an ideal thing to happen either.

Send her back to a place she doesn't know any longer...

Who's problem and fault is that??

It's bad enough that she's an illegal immigrant, but what makes it worse is that apparently in 16 years of living here she couldn't be bothered to even learn the language. I believe she's a good example of the anchor baby problem: she comes here illegally, then has "legal" kids here, and then "woe is those poor kids, we can't deport mom and leave them without a parent right??". She should have been booted out long ago.
 

Bitek

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What can I say, if you post just mostly like him, you'll be confused for him...

Is it to early to call you a transparent racist, or do you go first, then I type something in hillybilly about guns and pig anuses or something? Can't find the script in the FAQs..

Whoever the transparent racist is, can someone just confirm that is why they have to wear sheets when they get together for a rally? A burning cross would be a lot less intimidating if it looked like just a bunch of floating eye balls and coiled intestines huddled around it.
 

chucky2

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What's a transperent racist? Is that like Angry Badgers?

I don't want people here illegally/"undocumented", and I don't want the Fed gov pretending to try and do something about it when they really aren't doing anything meaningful (and haven't for 30 years or so now).

If that means whites, blacks, browns, martians, that are here illegally/"undocumented", or - preferably - are prevented from being here illegally/"undocumented", aren't in the US, then I'm happy. I could care less what color they are.

If someone wants to be part of the US, they need to be able to speak basic English and need to be here properly. Properly is not running across the border and living here for <x> years.

If that's 'transperant racist', then so be it.
 

polarmystery

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If you want to live here, become a citizen. If it has been that long and you still aren't, then I bid you adieu. You can't make an specific case over a general circumstance.
 

Bitek

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Source

Just want to make sure you understand I'm joking.

I have no idea what it means. I took it as clear people who hate opaque people and half-breed translucents.

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alkemyst

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If you want to live here, become a citizen. If it has been that long and you still aren't, then I bid you adieu. You can't make an specific case over a general circumstance.

Green card is enough, my wife will keep her vested benefits. Sadly she still contributes to ours she won't realize.
 

bfdd

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lol @ people being insensitive to immigrants. i love immigrants, i love talking to them and getting a new perspective on the things around me. that doesn't mean i'm ok with people being here illegally.
 

WackyDan

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Where the fuck do you get that she was married to a US Citizen? From the article linked:

"Pacheco's late father was a migrant worker who became a U.S. citizen"

and

"It's important because this is what I have left. My dad is not with us right now and I wish he was"

This only tells me that the mother's father was a citizen and she wasn't born here. It also implies not that she is a widow, but that the father or fathers of her four girls are not in the picture or they themselves were deported for being here illegally.

So someone please post an article where it verifies she was MARRIED to a US citizen and whether or not she is a WIDOW.

This is as bad as the mexican illegal who was here for 20 some odd years testifying about the plight of Latinos in front of a congressional or senate committee and requiring an interpreter.

16 years is a long time to not learn english... and I might add... While living in fucking Ohio of all places.
 

woolfe9999

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This is copied and pasted so excuse the caps.

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.


IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.


IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.


IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.


IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.


IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU
WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.


IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.


IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET !
A JOB, A DRIVERS LICENSE,
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE,


FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,


FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE,
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE

THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT

AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE, AND THE LATEST THING: A FREE CELL PHONE WITH FREE MINUTES!

LOL that has to be the most hilarious self-defeating argument ever. We are being compared unfavorably to, let's get this straight, the following countries: North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Venezuela. Hey where is Syria on that list?

The worst, most oppressive regimes on the entire planet and we should be more like them. Great argument buddy. LMAO.

- wolf
 

chucky2

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Given the size and scope of the illegal invasion, we'd be lots better off long term employing those countries tactics than the (purposefully) ineffective ones we've been doing...
 

Kadarin

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She's illegal, deport her. Period. The kids, who are American citizens (unfortunately), can either stay here if (1) they are legal adults, or (2) can live under legal guardianship of the father and/or other legal relatives, or they can leave with her and then return as adults if they wish.

I don't give a fuck about her and don't want her in this country.

In fact, jail her and/or levy fines against her, and then deport her ass.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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She's illegal, deport her. Period. The kids, who are American citizens (unfortunately), can either stay here if (1) they are legal adults, or (2) can live under legal guardianship of the father and/or other legal relatives, or they can leave with her and then return as adults if they wish.

I don't give a fuck about her and don't want her in this country.

In fact, jail her and/or levy fines against her, and then deport her ass.

WE really need to get rid of this " Anchor Baby " shit.
 

BoomerD

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Given the size and scope of the illegal invasion, we'd be lots better off long term employing those countries tactics than the (purposefully) ineffective ones we've been doing...

The USA should start using the same tactics and laws that Mexico uses for illegal immigration...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...illegals-laws-tougher-than-arizonas/?page=all

Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.


She's illegal, deport her. Period. The kids, who are American citizens (unfortunately), can either stay here if (1) they are legal adults, or (2) can live under legal guardianship of the father and/or other legal relatives, or they can leave with her and then return as adults if they wish.

I don't give a fuck about her and don't want her in this country.

In fact, jail her and/or levy fines against her, and then deport her ass.

Agreed. If she's illegal, then no doubt, she's used FAR more in government services than she's paid taxes.

WE really need to get rid of this " Anchor Baby " shit.

I agree 100%. The children of immigrants, legal or illegal, should be citizens of whatever country their parents are from. IF the parents are legal immigrants, they should be able to apply for US citizenship for the child, and it should be granted...but they should have to ask for it.
 

alkemyst

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There was a Haitian lady that was/is here for like 20+ years and learned Spanish but not English. That's sad, the chick is anti- American...I'd have ins have their way with her but I am friends with a family member (who also hates her anti-American ways).

Somehow the country pays for her heart and diabetes meds