16 years behind bars for an $11 robbery

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ElFenix

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i thought they decided to let the perps walk?
 
rudeguy

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I was in jail with a guy who caught a felony for stealing a pillowcase. The prosecutor decided to use that to try him as habitual. 25 years for a pillowcase.
 
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sjwaste

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rudeguy said:
I was in jail with a guy who caught a felony for stealing a pillowcase. The prosecutor decided to use that to try him as habitual. 25 years for a pillowcase.
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Yeah, but who steals a pillowcase? Was he going to spraypaint a $ sign on it and use it to rob a bank?
 
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The best part:

The judge who oversaw the case, Judge Marcus Gordon, was the same judge who sentenced Ku Klux Klan member Edgar Ray "Preacher" Killen to a 20-year sentence for the 1964 killing of civil rights activists James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner.

Killen was found guilty of three counts of manslaughter on June 21, 2005, the 41st anniversary of the so-called "Mississippi Burning" case and received a much lighter sentence than the Scott sisters.
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tcsenter

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jman19 said:
For armed robbery, not just eleven bucks.
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Right, the law doesn't say "commit armed robbery and pick the right day when there is lots of money shall carry a stiffer penalty than if the armed robber is stupid and picks the wrong day when there isn't a lot of money". Whether the criminal is stupid, picks a bad target, or has bad timing should have zero bearing on the penalty.

16 years for armed robbery is not outrageous, whether the take is $3.00 or $300,000.

Lifted said:
The best part:

Killen was found guilty of three counts of manslaughter on June 21, 2005, the 41st anniversary of the so-called "Mississippi Burning" case and received a much lighter sentence than the Scott sisters.
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Manslaughter isn't murder. The norm for manslaughter ranges from 3 to 7 years.
 
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tcsenter

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Lifted said:
And who said anything about murder? :confused:
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You implied the judge was somehow biased because he gave a light penalty to someone convicted of three counts of manslaughter. 20 years is not a light penalty for three counts of manslaughter. Its pretty much in-line with the maximum (running consecutively) sentence that you could expect anyone to be sentenced for three counts of manslaughter in most of the country.
 
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JSt0rm

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sjwaste said:
Yeah, but who steals a pillowcase? Was he going to spraypaint a $ sign on it and use it to rob a bank?
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who knows what evil deeds he would of done with the pillowcase. Best to throw him in jail for 25 years so as to never have to find out!
 
exdeath

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Nintendesert said:
Good.
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This.

Forceful taking or destroying another person's property is the most despicable thing you can do (note this includes rape and murder as your body is your property).

How much is irrelevant, it is the act that shows this person doesn't respect the most basic corner stone that all of human society and law and government is derived from.
 
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Lithium381

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Ms. DICKINSON said:
Well deserved
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we need to have a stiffer punishment for violent crimes....and not jail time. criminals do not fear the justice system.... i have to say i don't even have that much respect for it. it has it's merits, but also it's flaws
 
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tcsenter

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After reading the article, the women were actually sentenced to life in prison. They will have served 16 years, they were not sentenced to 16 years. Hugely excessive for young first offenders where nobody was injured, there were no special circumstances, and their exact role or participation in the robbery was questionable.
 
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ichy

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Armed robbery is a very serious crime. The amount that was actually stolen is irrelevant.
 
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kami333

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I have a bigger issue with the kidney donation/transplant being a condition of their release than the fact that they received life in prison for first time armed robbery.
 
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Sounds like some BS to me. I agree that violent crimes deserve stiffer penalties, but that should hold up for all cases and not just select ones. From the article, it sounds as if these girls lured some unsuspecting individuals to be robbed. They weren't holding guns or much part of any of the violent stuff from the sounds of it. I could definitely see a few years behind bars for such an offense, but life? And the actual robbers got off in a much shorter time frame. Sounds quite strange to me.
 
bruceb

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Serves him right. You did the crime, now do the time. In some parts of Europe, you get caught stealing, they chop off a finger or two.
 
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rudeguy said:
I was in jail with a guy who caught a felony for stealing a pillowcase. The prosecutor decided to use that to try him as habitual. 25 years for a pillowcase.
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Yeah, the cops found him with an empty pillow case... he dumped all the loot out before they got to him. How many houses had he hit that night? Scum bag.
 
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krunchykrome

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Armed robbery.....

The only problem I see with this is that that tax payers paid for their incarceration after they were convicted.
 
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