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16 intact Pipe 6800's

I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.

Wasn't it Rollo that did a couple benches showing a 6800NU w/ 12 and 16 pipes? Maybe I'm mistaken...but didn't it show very marginal gains?
 
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.
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the MSI 6800nu is $293...eVGA 6800GT is $385...

sheesh why does everyone have to argue? its a simple question, and i'm not implying anything by asking that question, i just want to know.
 
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.
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the MSI 6800nu is $293...eVGA 6800GT is $385...

sheesh why does everyone have to argue? its a simple question, and i'm not implying anything by asking that question, i just want to know.
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You're missing the point....

Yes the NU is cheaper...but it also has much slower DDR unlike the GT/Ultras. My point was you'd have to pay $400+ for something like the Asus with DDR3. At that price you might as well get a GT.
 
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.
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the MSI 6800nu is $293...eVGA 6800GT is $385...
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How do you enable the other 128MB of memory and change it to GDDR3 that will run at GT speeds though?
 
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
what?

brand...as in manufacturer, MSI, eVGA, XFX, etc....

try here if you need an explination for video card brands.
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Thanks for the replay there smart guy...

However, it sounds as if you are asking which brands (yes, as in manufacturuer) are selling cores that could be sold perfectly well as GT's and Ultra's. Seeing as how both nVidia and the respective manufacturers are in this to make money why would they do this? And why would one particular brand have a greater percentage of their cards with the locked pipes intact? Seeing as how none of us can answer the above questions, I ask you again, how does one determine, by brand, which 6800 cards have the last 4 pipes intact? Just because an MSI branded 6800 has been successfully unlocked, doesn't mean than MSI cards are more likely to be unlockable than other 6800's.

Edit: I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just curious as how you think that someone may possibly know the answer to your question. Would you believe me if I told you that BFGTech 6800nu's could be successfully unlocked because the 4 remaining pipes are intact? I can tell you that if you'd like - I won't have any facts to back it up with, but I can still tell you that if it will make you happy. Modding is a risk. Period.
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.
Click to expand...

the MSI 6800nu is $293...eVGA 6800GT is $385...
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How do you enable the other 128MB of memory and change it to GDDR3 that will run at GT speeds though?
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funny man....i'm perfectly aware that i still don't get anywhere near GT performance, i never said it would.
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I really don't see what all the excitement about unlocking the other 4 pipelines is really about. It still doesn't make up for the slower DDR...unless you're willing to spend just as much for a 6800NU as most GT's cost.
Click to expand...

the MSI 6800nu is $293...eVGA 6800GT is $385...
Click to expand...

How do you enable the other 128MB of memory and change it to GDDR3 that will run at GT speeds though?
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That's in RivaTuners very next version.. 😉

 
Originally posted by: someone16
And yea...right now the success rate is liek less than 5%...so dont buy a 6800 thinking it'll go into a GT
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ok what did i *JUST* say.

i know i will not get GT performance, thats pretty obvious...and even if i do get it to 16 pipes i'm still missing 128mb and GDDR3, regardless of the pipes i can open.
 
Originally posted by: someone16
And yea...right now the success rate is liek less than 5%...so dont buy a 6800 thinking it'll go into a GT
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More like 0% to become a GT (no GDDR3, half the memory - as said above).

Enabling the extra pipes does give a bit of a performance boost, but it's more like 5-15%, and personally, I wouldn't risk it. Those pipes are disabled for a reason (checkerboard 9500>9700 Pro mods, anyone?) Usually pipes are faulty/don't work at full speed/etc, and enabling them works off the bat, but problems rear their ugly heads in the near future.

Personally, if I had a 6800nu, I'd look for one that was a better overclocker over one that soft mods more effectively. Both methods will add increased heat and stress on the cards, but a straight o/c is less "iffy" than pipemodding.
 
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