16 hours of Orthos, 14 hours of Memtest86+

allies

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My rig is in my signature. I'm on Vista x64.

When I'm playing HL2: Episode 1 and get to a "Loading..." screen, my game sometimes freezes and kicks me back to the desktop, displaying an error message (the message varies). Sometimes, it's a Runtime Error from Visual C++, sometimes it's an "Engine Error", sometimes it's something else which I don't remember.

I'm wondering if this is due to my overclock, or something else. The problem also occurs randomly when I quicksave the game.

Anyway to fix this? I dunno if this is the correct forum for this post, if it needs to be moved LMK.

Thanks guys
 

mc866

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Could be compatibility with Vista X64 and HL2 E1, not necessarily your OC?
 

SparkyJJO

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It is a software problem, not hardware. Vista 64 bit seems to have more trouble than 32 bit. I'm hoping though that 64 bit stuff takes off, tired of running 32 bit on 64 bit capable hardware.
 

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16 hours of Orthos and 14 of Memtest86+ is good, but I would not assume your OC is 100% stable. I have seen Orthos / Prime error out after 16 or more hours of testing many times, same goes for Memtest.

I would check out MemTest Pro (HCI labs IIRC). I've found it to be superior to Memtest86+. It typically finds errors much more quickly in my experience.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Is your GPU overclocked?

If you drop back to stock CPU speed does HL2 give you the same problems?


 

allies

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GPU is not overclocked. Haven't installed HL2 yet...

I think it's software related though. If I have time I'll run MemTest Pro... busy during finals week.
 

firewolfsm

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I was about to mention the gpu but the other poster got that. Try stock settings on your cpu and see what happens.
 

allies

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Originally posted by: firewolfsm
Originally posted by: allies
I have a feeling it's not hardware... it ONLY happens when saving...

Just to make sure...

Definitely... I might try tomorrow, but definitely after thursday (bah to ochem and physics finals)
 

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Originally posted by: allies
I have a feeling it's not hardware... it ONLY happens when saving...

Just a simple question....Did you run 16 hours of ORTHOS small FFTs or Blend Test??
Default in Orthos is Small FFts I think.

Just in case, for system stability, you should run the Blend test.

Memtest is not enough for Ram memory testing.

So, if you only ran ORTHOS Small FFts to check CPU stability and Memtest to check Ram stability, why not check both at the same time? Run Orthos Blend test for at least 6 hours(the more hours, the better). That way you'll know if your CPU and memory subsytems work fine together under an OS.

If you ran Blend test.....the answer may well be VISTA having issues....
 

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any OS that doesnt allow you, the administator, to edit your OWN Files, has to be seriously wrong.


But yeah im voting on vista as well. My free copy i got from that promotion is being used by my brother, because i couldnt get anythign to work on it. Expecially important things like quickbooks premier, and pc anywhere.
 

allies

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Originally posted by: MADMAX23
Originally posted by: allies
I have a feeling it's not hardware... it ONLY happens when saving...

Just a simple question....Did you run 16 hours of ORTHOS small FFTs or Blend Test??
Default in Orthos is Small FFts I think.

Just in case, for system stability, you should run the Blend test.

Memtest is not enough for Ram memory testing.

So, if you only ran ORTHOS Small FFts to check CPU stability and Memtest to check Ram stability, why not check both at the same time? Run Orthos Blend test for at least 6 hours(the more hours, the better). That way you'll know if your CPU and memory subsytems work fine together under an OS.

If you ran Blend test.....the answer may well be VISTA having issues....

Definitely used blend test. And there is a 75+ page thread on another forum talking about a similar issue, but this was back in 2005. I couldn't really find a definitive answer, someone mentioned deleting the autoexec.cfg file, but I don't even have one to begin with.

 

slappynutz

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I have the exact same problem using HL2e1. It will error out with the same messages when loading from certain savegames, and sometimes when loading new areas. I noticed that after playing for a while the save game icons will be garbled and the saves rendered useless with crashes if I load them.

I'm running a C2D e6600, overclocked to 3.24ghz at stock voltages, on Vista 64 with an eVGA 8800GTX. Half-Life 2 runs perfectly, but both Episode 1 and the Heroes of Might and Magic game that came with the card (which I'm pretty sure runs on the same engine) crash out with the same error. Fairly certain it's either a Valve issue, or an Nvidia issue, or a combination of both.

One thing I found that seems to work is to disable AA. It makes the crashes less frequent, but doesn't stop them altogether.

My system is otherwise 100% stable and never crashes in any other games. Well, other than Supreme Commander, which has its own fair share of bugs with Vista 64 and is a different issue altogether.
 

slappynutz

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Just wanted to add ... the problem with Supreme Commander only happens when I've alt-tabbed out of a game and back in from Vista 64. 99.9% sure it's a driver issue.
 

allies

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Yet another reason I won't be using Vista anytime soon

As mentioned 2 posts above... This problem was widespread before... so it's probably something to do with Valve (they've F'ed up on a lot of stuff).

slappynutz my save points get garbled as well too... I want a fix to this :)

Vista is sweet :p
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Yet another reason I won't be using Vista anytime soon

Too bad for you. ;)


Yeah I'm just and old fuddy duddy that way:) I held out longer than most before making the change from 2000pro to XPpro. I got burned so bad with Windows95 (was waiting in line at midnight the first night it went on sale) and it caused nothing but grief:(. I will eventually go to vista once I actually need it or I'm damn sure all the compatibility problems have been worked out, and my company officially supports VPN's running on Vista.

The only thing about Vista that appeals to me at the moment is the prefetch feature which seems helpful if you have lots of ram. The aero interface is nice I guess but looks a little too mac like:disgust:. The security thing just looks annoying as hell, they need to fix that. Perhaps allowing a level somewhere between off and uber nazi.
 

orion23

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I am not even 5 seconds Othos stable, however, I can play or do anything on my computer @ 3.8ghz for about 6 months now. Running Vista Ultimate 32-Bit from Day 1.

Go figure!