Hammer

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to get married in the catholic church, a lot of it is up to the priest doing the ceremony.

but in general:

both of you have to be baptized (you'll need the certificate for both)
1 of you will need to be confirmed (again the certificate)
you'll need a letter from your local church that gives the bride permission to marry in another church
you'll need a certificate indicating you've taken marriage classes
 

bunker

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When my sister went to get married, in a catholic church, my brother-in-law to be had to convert. I was the only Catholic person close to him (I was in college near his home town) so I agreed to be his sponsor. I had to go with him to a couple classes/sessions and he had quite a few to go to, allthough I don't recall the exact number. They had like a little graduation ceremony where he got some kind of certificate saying he was now Catholic.

EDIT: in response to hammer's post, that doesn't hold true for every Catholic church. It's up to the priest of that church to set the rules. In my sister's case both her and my bro-in-law had to be confirmed.
 

Stark

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my bro had to have some meetings with the church priest when he got married in a catholic church. he had to vow to raise his kids catholic, go to church, etc to get the OK.

you might have to make a few pre-wedding trips to frogland if they require something similar. ;)
 

Jzero

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I don't know about France, but I had some friends who recently tried to do it in Italy and found it to be such a royal PITA that they decided to screw Catholocism and got married in Tahiti instead.
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Have you heard of google.com Tomato? :confused:

First hit: GETTING MARRIED IN FRANCE :)

Site is blocked at work. :confused:

Cut and paste:

Note : The French legal system requires that civil marriages take place in a French "mairie" (City Hall). Therefore, marriages cannot be performed within the Embassy or within an American Consulate in France.

Civil Ceremony
All marriages must be performed by a French civil authority before any religious ceremony takes place. The mayor can authorize the deputy mayor or a city councilor to perform the ceremony in the town in which one of the parties to be married has resided for at least 40 days preceding the marriage. These requirements can not be waived.

Religious ceremony
The religious ceremony has to be performed after the civil ceremony (never before). The minister, priest or rabbi will require a certificate of civil marriage before any religious ceremony takes place.

Publications of banns
French Law requires the posting of marriage banns at the appropriate "mairie" no less than 10 days preceding the date of marriage. The first publication of the banns can be made only at the end of the 30 days of residence in France by one party to the marriage.

Marriage certificate
Couples married in France receive a "livret de famille." This is a booklet which serves as an official record of marriage and subsequent events in the family such as births, deaths, divorce or name changes. A marriage certificate can be obtained by writing to the "mairie" where the marriage took place.

Documents required
Note : Most mairies require these basic documents. Please contact your local mairie for exact requirements.

* A valid U.S. passport or a French resident permit
* A birth certificate (less than three months old)
* A certificate of celibacy (less than three months old) which can be done before an American Consular Officer in France
* An affidavit of Law. It is a statement (must be done by an attorney licensed to practice in both France and United States) about U.S. marriage laws, certifying that the American citizen is free to contract marriage in France and will be recognized in the United States
* A medical certificate (less than three months old)
* Proof of domicile (electricity bill, etc.)
* Certificat du notaire (if the parties to the marriage opt for a prenuptial contract)

Glossary
- City Hall = Mairie
- Deputy mayor = adjoint au maire
- City Councilior = conseiller municipal
- French civil authority = Officier de l'Etat civil
- Publication of banns = publication des bans
- Marriage certificate = attestation de marriage
- Birth certificate = Extrait d'acte de naissance
- French residency permit = Carte de séjour
- Certificat of Celibacy = attestation de célibat
- A medical Certificate = certificat médical
- Proof of domicile = justificatif de domicile
- Honeymoon = Lune de miel


Sounds like you're out of luck unless one of you wants to go live there for over a month first.
 

DougK62

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If it were me, I'd just fill out all the paperwork here in the states and file it so you'd be legally married. Then when you go to France you can just have a nice outdoor ceremony without having to worry about the politics and paperwork.

 

imported_Tomato

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Originally posted by: Hammer
to get married in the catholic church, a lot of it is up to the priest doing the ceremony.

but in general:

both of you have to be baptized (you'll need the certificate for both)
1 of you will need to be confirmed (again the certificate)
you'll need a letter from your local church that gives the bride permission to marry in another church
you'll need a certificate indicating you've taken marriage classes

Phew, lots of certifications involved... thanks for the info, Hammer.
 

imported_Tomato

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Originally posted by: bunker
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Have you heard of google.com Tomato? :confused:

First hit: GETTING MARRIED IN FRANCE :)

Site is blocked at work. :confused:

Cut and paste:

Note : The French legal system requires that civil marriages take place in a French "mairie" (City Hall). Therefore, marriages cannot be performed within the Embassy or within an American Consulate in France.

Civil Ceremony
All marriages must be performed by a French civil authority before any religious ceremony takes place. The mayor can authorize the deputy mayor or a city councilor to perform the ceremony in the town in which one of the parties to be married has resided for at least 40 days preceding the marriage. These requirements can not be waived.

Religious ceremony
The religious ceremony has to be performed after the civil ceremony (never before). The minister, priest or rabbi will require a certificate of civil marriage before any religious ceremony takes place.

Publications of banns
French Law requires the posting of marriage banns at the appropriate "mairie" no less than 10 days preceding the date of marriage. The first publication of the banns can be made only at the end of the 30 days of residence in France by one party to the marriage.

Marriage certificate
Couples married in France receive a "livret de famille." This is a booklet which serves as an official record of marriage and subsequent events in the family such as births, deaths, divorce or name changes. A marriage certificate can be obtained by writing to the "mairie" where the marriage took place.

Documents required
Note : Most mairies require these basic documents. Please contact your local mairie for exact requirements.

* A valid U.S. passport or a French resident permit
* A birth certificate (less than three months old)
* A certificate of celibacy (less than three months old) which can be done before an American Consular Officer in France
* An affidavit of Law. It is a statement (must be done by an attorney licensed to practice in both France and United States) about U.S. marriage laws, certifying that the American citizen is free to contract marriage in France and will be recognized in the United States
* A medical certificate (less than three months old)
* Proof of domicile (electricity bill, etc.)
* Certificat du notaire (if the parties to the marriage opt for a prenuptial contract)

Glossary
- City Hall = Mairie
- Deputy mayor = adjoint au maire
- City Councilior = conseiller municipal
- French civil authority = Officier de l'Etat civil
- Publication of banns = publication des bans
- Marriage certificate = attestation de marriage
- Birth certificate = Extrait d'acte de naissance
- French residency permit = Carte de séjour
- Certificat of Celibacy = attestation de célibat
- A medical Certificate = certificat médical
- Proof of domicile = justificatif de domicile
- Honeymoon = Lune de miel


Sounds like you're out of luck unless one of you wants to go live there for over a month first.

You're right, thanks Bunker. :( Looks like we'll have to stay in the states...
 

everman

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*confused* You have to be Catholic in order to have a ceremony in a French Cathoic church (cathedral?)? Or is there some other kind of benefit? I'm lost
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: everman
*confused* You have to be Catholic in order to have a ceremony in a French Cathoic church (cathedral?)? Or is there some other kind of benefit? I'm lost

The majority of Catholic churches (not all, but most) require the couple to both be Catholic.
 

Nocturnal

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You have to be confirmed which are a bunch of classes that can take a few months to years.
 

Ausm

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Make sure you put some Doctor schoal's in your shoes because Catholic wedding take FOREVER! ;)

Ausm
 

Buck Armstrong

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My brother married a Hispanic Catholic...and boy, what a ceremony. Lasted 48 hours at least (maybe a slight exaggeration), and the guy who administered the vows looked like a Jedi Knight. There were Bible verses, the Ave Maria (which was actually kind of cool), a huge statue of the Virgin (before which the bride knelt in prayer), and some sort of double-ended noose which was tied around both necks.

I'm not sure how difficult it was to put on (he didn't convert though he was heavily pressured by her family and/or the church), but it sure was difficult to watch! :)
 

Ynog

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Originally posted by: Tomato
I was raised a non-denominational Christian, but don't mind getting baptized/being converted to Catholicism so we can get married in a Catholic church. I've heard the Catholic Church also requires couples to undergo a series of pretty intense classes before marriage, and would appreciate hearing any stories from anyone who's gone through them.

Depends. I'm Catholic, and we were always told both people must be confirmed in a Catholic church before you can get married.

My grandmother was protestant before she married my grandfather. Now back then it was pretty intense. She had to go through alot of classes and other activities (cannot remember all of them) because they wanted to make sure she was doing it to become Catholic, rather than just so she could get married in a Catholic church. She is still Catholic. However that was over 70 years ago. I'm pretty sure its lighten up most places.

Most recently, I was the best man in a wedding where the bride was Catholic and the groom wasn't. They were married by a Catholic priest in a Catholic church, but it wasn't a wedding mass. He wasn't required to go through any conversion, I know he wasn't confirmed for sure. So draw your own conclusions from that.

I'd say your best bet is to talk to the priest of the person you are planning on marrying. That priest will be able to give you a better idea of what is required of you, if you want to get married in a Catholic church.
 

meltdown75

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Hi Tomato :)

We got married in the Catholic church... Our marriage prep classes consisted of a Friday night and all day Saturday. Then on Sunday we also had to go to mass (irregular for us since we're Catholic ;) ) and the priest said a little snippet to the congregation about the soon-to-be couples.

Oh and before all that we had to meet with the priest at our church and discuss marriage in general. First he spoke to both of us together, and then one on one. My wife was in there for 5 minutes, he talked to me for like a half HOUR!

So yeah it was pretty straight forward IMHO. We were already baptised ---> through to confirmation etc. But we haven't made it to church that much since!
 

Kelvrick

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Its like a one year class for your certificates. Much faster then if you had to take classes growing up as a kid.

My mom already has everything ready for me considering I'm the only one in my family not to complete my confirmation. Once I announce the lucky lady, I'll probably be pre-enrolled and if the unlucky lady isn't catholic ready, she'll be too.
 

moshquerade

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it does depend on the individual priest's requirements. some are less "strict" than others. best bet: ask someone who has been married in the Catholic church you want to get married in.
 

Spamela

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in order to become Catholic, an adult needs to truly
"believe and profess" what the church teaches
and go through several months of weekly classes,
called RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults).
adults are baptized, typically, the night before Easter & it
may be too late for this coming Easter.
IOW, people don't convert to get married; they do it because
they have faith.

my wife & i are Catholic & pretty devout. there are lots of married
couples at our church with just 1 Catholic spouse.
the non-Catholic spouse does NOT have to be baptized or confirmed
as a Catholic.

just call the church where you're most likely
to be married & ask - marriage prep requirements vary.
 

Kelemvor

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I'm not Catholic but my wife was. We got married in a catholic church. Never had to do anything major. Met with the priest once or twice and took some voluntary class. That was about it.
 
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Lola

catholics are crazy... you can't do certain things, you cannot say your own vows, you sometimes cannot have a photographers in the church... crazy rules. you have to take classes for marriage.... check in to everything before hand