1500MHz Palomino + GF3 + Win2K = 7028 3DMark2K1

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Pabster

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I've finally gotten a 1.2GHz Palomino running :D After spending a bit playing around, I ran it as high as 1573 but it wasn't 100% stable, even at ~2.2v. I haven't tried any Corsair modules yet, so results may improve. But needless to say, I'm not disappointed :D

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?1123006

7028 3DMarks at default settings. That's considerably faster than the 1520MHz Bird I was running, and the system runs MUCH cooler.

(This is a 1500MHz Palomino, 150x10, running at 2.10v.)
 
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Maverick

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very nice.
Questions for those with Palominos. Where are you getting them and for what prices? Do they require DDR mainboards? Thanks.
 
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fkloster

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Pabster, what are your Geforce 3 GPU/MEM clocks set at? I think this is an impressive score considering it is under Win2K.
 
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splice

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Damn! I get like 3490 with my tbird 1.33GHz as a GF2GTS.. of course your score kicks ass because of the GF3
 
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Pabster...very nice! You're making it hard to wait until this weekend to build mine. :) I had a feeling these wouldn't do too much over 1.4ghz..being a new core and all. I am curious how much cooler they are. I am toying around with the idea of trying to leave it at 1.2ghz, and see just how low I can go on the voltage. The mobile Athlon 4's @ 1ghz run a 1.4v vcore, I am curious how low I can go with this MP. What HSF are you using? I need to snag another 55mm Alpha HS for my northbridge to go with the 20CFM Top Motor fan I have..those stock NB HSF units are sooooo cheesy. I have also heard that the AMD761 NB is one of the hottest running yet... Keep us posted...:)
 
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Zipperhead

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thats a good score-but i was kinda hopin for a little more.i gotta t-bird
at 1550 with a gf3 and my 3dmark2001 score is 6799-default bench.if you were runnin at 1550 your score would be a little higher, but not by much.
 
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Athlon4all

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Wow not bad at all! I am guessing that you're just using an Athlon MP in single CPU conifg right? Can't wait for Athlon 4's to come out!
 
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Pabster

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Fkloster wrote:

"Pabster, what are your Geforce 3 GPU/MEM clocks set at? I think this is an impressive score considering it is under Win2K."

That is a VT GF3 running 240 core and 540 mem. I have successfully ran another VT GF3 at 270/570 but I'm waiting on a new copper block for cooling :D

I always run under 2K. I know I could eke out higher numbers under 98/ME, but I can't stand those POS operating systems. I'll take a performance hit for stability :)


 
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Pabster

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Insane3D wrote:

"Pabster...very nice! You're making it hard to wait until this weekend to build mine. I had a feeling these wouldn't do too much over 1.4ghz..being a new core and all. I am curious how much cooler they are."

With my probe on the die, I'm seeing 32C under full load. That's at a full 2.00 volts. Much, much cooler than Thunderbird, even at similiar clockspeeds. Hopefully I'll be able to get a more accurate idea when I get my Tyan duallie running :D

"I am toying around with the idea of trying to leave it at 1.2ghz, and see just how low I can go on the voltage. The mobile Athlon 4's @ 1ghz run a 1.4v vcore, I am curious how low I can go with this MP. What HSF are you using? I need to snag another 55mm Alpha HS for my northbridge to go with the 20CFM Top Motor fan I have..those stock NB HSF units are sooooo cheesy. I have also heard that the AMD761 NB is one of the hottest running yet... Keep us posted..."

I'm using Swiftech MC462-A with the "monster" 68.5cfm Delta fans. I didn't test the lower voltages at lower clocks, but I'd imagine it is possible. I have not tested the heat generated by the AMD-761 (yet) but I don't see it running warmer than KT133A around a 170 FSB :D
 
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Pabster

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Zipperhead wrote:

"thats a good score-but i was kinda hopin for a little more.i gotta t-bird
at 1550 with a gf3 and my 3dmark2001 score is 6799-default bench.if you were runnin at 1550 your score would be a little higher, but not by much."

That's a totally stable score, on a system I just put together. I have done zero tweaking and I haven't even tested with a GF3 which can run much faster than the one I'm benching with now. I did run at 1573 and complete several runs, but the system wasn't 100% stable so I'm discounting those scores :) This is also under Win2K, whereas 99% of the others are using 98/ME.




 
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Duvie

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Good job pabster!!! What do you think the limiting factor on the stability is??? RAM???

What mobo are you running right now???
 
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Pabster

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Duvie:

I believe it to be the Crucial DDR, yes. I'll be playing around with some Corsair modules by the weekend and see if it'll do better.

Mobo is an EpoX 8K7A, with the 1606 BIOS.
 
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Insane3D

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Pabster:

32C @ 2.0v?!?!?! Holy crap! I will also be using the MC462A with the Delta 68CFM monster..I hope to have similar results. I doubt my "old" Geforce DDR will get too high in 3DMark2K1...but I don't really pay much attention to that particular bench anyway. The Tyan should give you an idea of a true core temp finally since it should read the internal thermal diode..it will be interesting to see the temp difference on the core surface as opposed to the actual internal core temp from the diode. I can't wait till this weekend...:)
 
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BurntKooshie

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I'm very much tempted to run this on my PR 200 Cyrix, and start a thread about it. It's really funny how people brag about their rigs....
 
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Duvie

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What would be a score difference between running this in win2k or win98/me??? Have you been running all fsb boost? what is the makeup multiplier x fsb?


I am guessing you can clock some more out of that gf3 and most likely with some good ram get that tbird stable at the 1573...did you get a chance to look at the heat idle or under a bit of a load at 1573 and 2.2 volts????
 
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fkloster

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<< Hehe, makes that 2.2GHz Pentium 4 score look even more mediocre... >>



If a V12 race car takes first in a race by just a nose over a V8 race car that took 2nd in the race, I would still put my money on the V12 regardless of how impressive the V8 sport car performed in comparison :)
 
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splice

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It's a great score!, but this is the way I see it:

This data is not quite accurate because different components were probably used

Both use GF3

An Athlon (Tbird) at 1550Mhz can score atleast 6799 3DMark Points
A P4 at 2272 can score atleast? 8288 3DMark points

Now ratio Points per Mhz

6799/1550 = ~4.39 ppM
8288/2272 = ~3.59 ppM

ppM would be more accurate with a wider sample, but I don't have that....

So, if we scale the P4 back to 1550Mhz we would have a 3DMark of ~5565 (does this sound right for a P41.5?). Or if we scale an Athlon upto 2272Mhz we would get ~9974 (probably lower). Now I know CPU's don't usually scale in a linear fashion like this but, it gives you and idea of releative performance/speed (in 3DMark of course)

Edit: Doh... this was suppose to go into a different thread... ooh well ;)
 
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fkloster

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<< So, if we scale the P4 back to 1550Mhz we would have a 3DMark of ~5565 (does this sound right for a P41.5?). >>



Way off the mark. Should be around 4200... irregardless, it is pointless to use clock for clock comparisons. AMD's top of the line procs will not keep up with P4's clock until they go to a longer pipeline. Were talkin' Mhz here, not performance...
 
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Duvie

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Don't forget this is ran in win2k and is fully air cooled...not watered cooled...and the GF3 is not heavily oc'd like some of the ones at madonion

I am not much for 3dmark anyways as one can tell...I think both are pretty damn fast, maybe even to the point of overkill...

I am more interested in heat issues, and the ramping up of the palomino and subsequent performance boost over tbird core alone. I am not interested in the p4 as a comparison.
 
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splice

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<< Way off the mark. Should be around 4200... >>



Well then the P4 is an even poorer performer in 3DMark then I thought.



<< it is pointless to use clock for clock comparisons. AMD's top of the line procs will not keep up with P4's clock until they go to a longer pipeline. Were talkin' Mhz here, not performance... >>



Well I'M talking about performance here. So defensive! I'm just tring to make a point, taking a different look at it. Although it is a good score, &quot;I&quot; don't see it as landmark.
 
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robg1701

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hehe, sorry, id like to apologise to fkloster...i thought he was implying that splice's figure for scaling back to 1.55GHz for a P4 was way off, when in fact the intent was to say what a P4 1.5GHz was....woops :p
 
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