15 y/o girl complains that she only get $1000 a month.

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Homerboy

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I'll make you a deal, I'll pay for all of your kids dances for the rest of his high school years if you cover a single year of my daughters travel ball.

My oldest plays travel softball and man is that shit expensive. Bats aren't quite $500 yet in softball (not sure about baseball) but they are $300-$350 for the latest which of course she must have every year. Two $100 pairs of cleats because some tournaments don't allow metal cleats, $150 glove, $125 bag, $75 sunglasses and who knows how much in other odds and ends. Then you have the team fees, hotel costs every other weakend during the main season and every 3rdish week the rest of the year with a 6ish week break around Xmas. Then you have all of the money you spend eating while you are out of town and food/drinks at the park, gas, plate fees if they aren't included in your yearly team fee, etc. Oh yeah, there is also the private pitching coach she goes to but considering all the other costs that is pennies.

Base fees for my son: $2,200 (that's a discount of $1,500 because he's a P.O.)
We play in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Georgia. in June and July. That's literally EVERY WEEKEND in those 2 months. We live in Wisconsin and have 1 tournament here. (sadly that's pretty much our "season" here)
Then we toss in year round gym membership of (on the cheap end) $300/month (personal training)
And, as you said, toss in all the other junk and it's a ridiculous amount of money.

But, that being said, we don't do "family vacations". This is how we spend our vacation money and wouldn't have it any other way. It's entirely enjoyable and we love (nearly) every minute of it.

The good news with bats is that once they hit highschool and need to be BBCOR, the ideal situation is you get 1 bat and stick with it as it gets hotter the more you use it. There are some SUPER expensive new/used BBCOR bats on ebay because they are "classics" and much hotter than new bats.
 

Homerboy

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@Homerboy So they don't wear out? Sounds like my friend is getting scammed.

Bats? No... the carbon fiber ones you want to hold onto as long as possible. The more you use them, the more they break in and get more of a trampoline affect. All bats out of the wrapper meet the safety standards for which they are designed/approved - including BBCOR. As they get used, the fibers start to crack and separate and the glue starts to break down letting the carbon fiber work like a tennis racket and "rebound" the ball more. They will eventually break down too far (or just break/crack) but if you can keep them going, they get better with age. That's why when you watch college ball those kids are swinging 3-4 year old bats.

Once you're at a BBCOR level, you're probably at the length/weight you will be for the rest of your career (all BBCOR are -3) so you shouldn't need to be changing lengths/weight year after year (minus growth spurts or a kick-ass off season in the gym I guess). So you buy a bat and stick with it as long as you can.

Tons of nerdy experiments done on this stuff. Google will show you the way.
 
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whm1974

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Hopefully she is refining her bedroom skills so that maybe she will at least be able to be some rich guys arm candy and use his money to keep contributing to the economy.

If I was the mom I'd pay some truly poor people to take her in for a few weeks and show her what living like a "peasant" is really like.
I sure wish I had $1000 a month like this girl has back when I was her age. She doesn't know how lucky she is.
 

allisolm

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I sure wish I had $1000 a month like this girl has back when I was her age. She doesn't know how lucky she is.

Her mom WAS giving her $5000 a month and cut her down to $1000.The poor girl was beside herself over it, claiming she could hardly survive. Boo hoo.
 

Darwin333

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Base fees for my son: $2,200 (that's a discount of $1,500 because he's a P.O.)
We play in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Georgia. in June and July. That's literally EVERY WEEKEND in those 2 months. We live in Wisconsin and have 1 tournament here. (sadly that's pretty much our "season" here)
Then we toss in year round gym membership of (on the cheap end) $300/month (personal training)
And, as you said, toss in all the other junk and it's a ridiculous amount of money.

But, that being said, we don't do "family vacations". This is how we spend our vacation money and wouldn't have it any other way. It's entirely enjoyable and we love (nearly) every minute of it.

The good news with bats is that once they hit highschool and need to be BBCOR, the ideal situation is you get 1 bat and stick with it as it gets hotter the more you use it. There are some SUPER expensive new/used BBCOR bats on ebay because they are "classics" and much hotter than new bats.

In Fastpitch softball they use the same bats in travel as they do in high school. She could use any of the bats she has had since she was 10 in high school softball if she wanted. You are correct in your next post though, probably bought my last bat because she won't need a new length or weight and the bats do get hotter with use. With that said, as much as I use bats as an example not having to buy another one won't make any noticeable difference in my softball related expenses.
 
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MrSquished

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Sad thing is that dumbtard is worth a lot of money now. I hate how stupid people are. Why give her attention, money, and fame? People care more about celebrities or train wrecks than what's going on in the government, and these bozos get to vote.

we should tie the right to vote to an intelligence test. we'd never have trump problems again
 

Thunder 57

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we should tie the right to vote to an intelligence test. we'd never have trump problems again

I may somewhat agree with you. Let's say you have to at least be a high school graduate and paying taxes. At least then you are somewhat educated and have skin in the game.
 

GagHalfrunt

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we should tie the right to vote to an intelligence test. we'd never have trump problems again

Really? Say goodbye to the lefties old reliable inner city voting blocs too. It would be right back to square one. If you based the right to vote on success, making better life choices, relying on yourself, making a living and paying taxes rather than surviving on government handouts, etc then you can kiss the entire Democratic party adios and we'll never have Obama problems again.

Both parties suck and idiots who believe that the problems in this country are because of Trump should be the first ones stripped of their right to vote because they clearly don't understand what's going on. Neither party represents anyone but themselves and the people who finance their campaigns.
 

MrSquished

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Well then, I guess we will never see a democrat president again then?

Considering it is a fact that Trump voters had above average income ...

And the fact that income correlates with IQ....

I guess you won't be able to vote :rolleyes: Aww, too bad.

I'll be fine.

You can take your random pumpkinperson blog IQ/income correlation link and enjoy it. You did a google and clicked on the first link, didn't even read the whole thing because you responded too quickly to have done so, and linked it up.

I skimmed it and he is using some seriously terrible methodology to measure intelligence, such as the SAT test - highly flawed - and tying it to ages and success levels. It's just ridiculous shit.

I'm smarter than you. I can't guarantee you'd have the right to vote, but I can guarantee I would.
 
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I'll be fine.

You can take your random pumpkinperson blog IQ/income correlation link and enjoy it. You did a google and clicked on the first link, didn't even read the whole thing because you responded too quickly to have done so, and linked it up.

I skimmed it and he is using some seriously terrible methodology to measure intelligence, such as the SAT test - highly flawed - and tying it to ages and success levels. It's just ridiculous shit.

I'm smarter than you. I can't guarantee you'd have the right to vote, but I can guarantee I would.

Grab another source? There are shitloads because all it takes is the thought process of a two year old to understand that one's ability to earn money in life correlates (coincidentally) with how smart one is.

The fact that you have a problem with a given link on the subject obviously shows you're questioning it - and if you're stupid enough to question the fact that monetary income correlates with IQ levels then... well... It's not surprising to say the least ;)
 

MrSquished

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Really? Say goodbye to the lefties old reliable inner city voting blocs too. It would be right back to square one. If you based the right to vote on success, making better life choices, relying on yourself, making a living and paying taxes rather than surviving on government handouts, etc then you can kiss the entire Democratic party adios and we'll never have Obama problems again.

Both parties suck and idiots who believe that the problems in this country are because of Trump should be the first ones stripped of their right to vote because they clearly don't understand what's going on. Neither party represents anyone but themselves and the people who finance their campaigns.

as long as the intelligence tests are not tied to testing that has implicit bias attached to it, like many have been shown to, we can keep the inner city voters. or are you saying black people are genetically less intelligent than everybody else? because you weren't very clear.

the problems in this country predate Trump by centuries, I really didn't need someone to explain that point. Progressives have been on a crusade to better the country for centuries. It's a long battle and we are well aware of the history involved. Trump is just the modern day encapsulation of everything wrong with this country. The Democrats as a party are highly flawed, but, they are the only shot we have at this moment to accomplish anything as long as the system is stacked for a two-party one.

This fall I'd urge people to not even think twice but to simply vote Democrat across the board.
 
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MrSquished

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Grab another source? There are shitloads because all it takes is the thought process of a two year old to understand that one's ability to earn money in life correlates (coincidentally) with how smart one is.

The fact that you have a problem with a given link on the subject obviously shows you're questioning it - and if you're stupid enough to question the fact that monetary income correlates with IQ levels then... well... It's not surprising to say the least ;)

You are an idiot. Do you think people that are seriously disadvantaged are all stupid? Or that class mobility is fraught with difficulty and it is very very tough to jump up from being poor to being affluent. Cause it can be done, but it's a carrot on a stick story for a lot. There are a lot of smart people with issues and those born into poverty that will never leave it that has nothing to do with their brain power. It's actually kind of sad that these amazing minds will often be wasted in a sense. But I digress.

People like you don't care about wasted potential due to circumstances out of people's control. It's a stupidly simple equation to you - hey if you have brains you will succeed. One of the biggest fallacies of our system today. And you have to be simpleminded to not be able to think around it IMO.
 
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as long as the intelligence tests are not tied to testing that has implicit bias attached to it, like many have been shown to, we can keep the inner city voters. or are you saying black people are genetically less intelligent than everybody else? because you weren't very clear..

He didn't say black people you incompetent moron - now who is the one with implicit bias? Jesus fuck it's like you're punching yourself - we don't even have to do anything.
 
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You are an idiot. Do you think people that are seriously disadvantaged are all stupid? Or that class mobility is fraught with difficulty and it is very very tough to jump up from being poor to being affluent. Cause it can be done, but it's a carrot on a stick story for a lot. There are a lot of smart people with issues and those born into poverty that will never leave it that has nothing to do with their brain power. It's actually kind of sad that these amazing minds will often be wasted in a sense. But I digress.

People like you don't care about wasted potential due to circumstances out of people's control. It's a stupidly simple equation to you - hey if you have brains you will succeed. One of the biggest fallacies of our system today. And you have to be simpleminded to not be able to think around it IMO.

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Thunder 57

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as long as the intelligence tests are not tied to testing that has implicit bias attached to it, like many have been shown to, we can keep the inner city voters. or are you saying black people are genetically less intelligent than everybody else? because you weren't very clear.

the problems in this country predate Trump by centuries, I really didn't need someone to explain that point. Progressives have been on a crusade to better the country for centuries. It's a long battle and we are well aware of the history involved. Trump is just the modern day encapsulation of everything wrong with this country. The Democrats as a party are highly flawed, but, they are the only shot we have at this moment to accomplish anything as long as the system is stacked for a two-party one.

This fall I'd urge people to not even think twice but to simply vote Democrat across the board.

Dems usually have poor turnout in midterm elections. I think there will be a strong wave though, the opposite of 2010. We shall see.
 

MrSquished

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He didn't say black people you incompetent moron - now who is the one with implicit bias? Jesus fuck it's like you're punching yourself - we don't even have to do anything.

inner-city implies the predominantly minority populations that tend to inhabit those areas. "In the United States the term "inner city" is often used as a euphemism for lower-income residential districts in the city center and nearby areas—with the additional connotation of impoverished minority neighborhoods."

also it is understood that the african american voting blocs that tend to come from those areas vote strongly Dem, which he was talking about also.

why do i have to explain everything to you?