15 month old babies show racial bias

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dank69

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Liking those who look and act similar to your tribe vs someone that looks or acts differently is probably rooted in evolution, so the findings in this study are not at all surprising to me. The fact that something is rooted in evolution doesn't mean it should be accepted behavior, but it should help us understand that it's not simply something learned that we can simply avoid by not teaching it. It appears our "default state" is to be racist to some extent, and then we can learn to expand our understanding to get beyond that starting point.
No, our "default state" is to be suspicious of things that are unfamiliar. Then we can learn how to properly familiarize ourselves with those differences so they aren't "scary" anymore. Or instead, we can avoid those things and remain fearful and ignorant. Then we can get angry when other people call it out for what it is: ignorance.
 

Texashiker

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Then we can get angry when other people call it out for what it is: ignorance.

Ignorance is such a hurtful word.

I understand your point and lets rephrase it. Lets call it lack of socialization.

When a dog is not around other dogs and different people it can develop behavioral problems. Socializing the dog helps reduce those problems.

If it works in dogs, why not in humans?
 

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Where did I say equivalent?

Are you so narrow minded you can not think in an abstract manner?

If racism (in-group bias) is natural and can be treated, can the same be said for homosexuality?
Had you said "homophobia," you might have had a point, if there really was a point to the OP - more on that in a moment. But, you equated homosexuality - not homophobia - with these biases. I think it goes without saying that you...
 

Texashiker

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Had you said "homophobia," you might have had a point,

I thought you were an educated person?

It is Homodium, not homophobia. Or is it Homo-odium? Either way it is a dislike rather than a fear.

Thread topic has moved off of gays. Are you going to continue to derail the thread? Or can we get back on topic?
 
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z1ggy

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Ignorance is such a hurtful word.

I understand your point and lets rephrase it. Lets call it lack of socialization.

When a dog is not around other dogs and different people it can develop behavioral problems. Socializing the dog helps reduce those problems.

If it works in dogs, why not in humans?

Was there even a control group in this study? All it said was that essentially, babies prefer people of their own race. Wow not surprising given that they mostly are around people of their own race (the parents or other family) for like 90% of the time.

What they need are a control group and then a group of babies who spend equal amounts of time over their short life spans with different races. Then, perform the same experiment.

If you were wandering in the forest and came on a creature you never saw before, would you not initially be timid of it and prefer to be around creatures you knew? Until you found otu what this new creature was and how it behaved, you would most likely have a negative bias toward preferring to be near it.
 

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Lions and tigers also associate with lions and tigers. Seagulls seem to always chill with each other too. How about those salmon always sticking together even when they travel? I bet whales feel isolated and alone. This winter we had 12 bald eagles in one tree. I didn't see one turkey vulture hanging out with them despite many being in the area. I think Holder should look into those bald eagles. Being US symbol they have to be inherently racist acourse.


"No, our "default state" is to be suspicious of things that are unfamiliar. Then we can learn how to properly familiarize ourselves with those differences so they aren't "scary" anymore"

Libs should stop treating the largest ideological group in US (conservatives according to Gallup) as the scary "other".
 
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Texashiker

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Was there even a control group in this study? All it said was that essentially, babies prefer people of their own race.

Dont know about a control group.

I did some google searches before posting this thread and found similar studies going back to around 2008.


Wow not surprising given that they mostly are around people of their own race (the parents or other family) for like 90% of the time.

We fear what we do not understand.

That is just human nature.
 

dank69

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Ignorance is such a hurtful word.

I understand your point and lets rephrase it. Lets call it lack of socialization.

When a dog is not around other dogs and different people it can develop behavioral problems. Socializing the dog helps reduce those problems.

If it works in dogs, why not in humans?
Call it whatever you like, but now you have an action plan. Start hanging out with gay men as much as you can, but try not to be a creeper.
 

dank69

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Lions and tigers also associate with lions and tigers. Seagulls seem to always chill with each other too. How about those salmon always sticking together even when they travel? I bet whales feel isolated and alone. This winter we had 12 bald eagles in one tree. I didn't see one turkey vulture hanging out with them despite many being in the area. I think Holder should look into those bald eagles. Being US symbol they have to be inherently racist acourse.


"No, our "default state" is to be suspicious of things that are unfamiliar. Then we can learn how to properly familiarize ourselves with those differences so they aren't "scary" anymore"

Libs should stop treating the largest ideological group in US (conservatives according to Gallup) as the scary "other".
I don't treat you as the scary other. I treat you like the stupid that you are.
 

z1ggy

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Dont know about a control group.

I did some google searches before posting this thread and found similar studies going back to around 2008.




We fear what we do not understand.

That is just human nature.

Fear != Racism

One is racist because of what they DO know, not about what they don't.
 

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Call it whatever you like, but now you have an action plan. Start hanging out with gay men as much as you can, but try not to be a creeper.

LOL

<feels sorry for gay men getting exposed to TH syndrome>
 

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I assure you I am not afraid of gays.

I simply have in-group bias. Gays are not in my group so I biased towards them.

This is natural behavior and you are a bigot for condemning me for something that is not my fault.
Ahhh, so you're saying that you're a little bi-curious? A little experimenting? Does your wife know?

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/bias.html
 

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Thread topic has moved off of gays. Are you going to continue to derail the thread? Or can we get back on topic?

Discussing the tangent you yourself brought up in the OP is not derailing the thread.

Don't want to discuss your issues with gays? Stop bringing them up...
 

dank69

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Discussing the tangent you yourself brought up in the OP is not derailing the thread.

Don't want to discuss your issues with gays? Stop bringing them up...
Thread is over. TH is at the local watering hole drinking an appletini in hopes of making some new man-friends.
 

Texashiker

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Thread is over. TH is at the local watering hole drinking an appletini in hopes of making some new man-friends.

I would have to drive to Houston to find a gay bar.

Think I'll just look at some girl on girl pics when i get home.
 

dank69

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I would have to drive to Houston to find a gay bar.

Think I'll just look at some girl on girl pics when i get home.
Then here is your first lesson. Gay people do go to regular bars, just like the rest of us.
 

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Then here is your first lesson. Gay people do go to regular bars, just like the rest of us.

in fairness, I'd never try to pickup a guy at a non-gay bar, especially in Texas where it's probably legal to shoot a queer dead on the spot at the slightest provocation.