15 month old babies show racial bias

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Texashiker

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TH is using this article as justification that it's cool for him to be sexist/racist/homophobic... Because I mean, if a 15 month old can be a racist, then it's totally natural and Okay.

That is simply not true.

Racism is being addressed as if it a learned behavior. Racism is not a learned behavior. It is natural and probably part of a survival instinct.

This in-group bias probably is hard programmed into our genes from when our ancestors were foraging and fighting for food. There is a reason why homo-erectus and the neanderthal are no longer here. This in-group bias may be a reason why our species survived while others went extinct.

But that does not mean we can not address it early.

If society will accept that racism is natural, then maybe we can develop better treatments.
 
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thraashman

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Can we say the same thing about gays? Can we address their behavior early?

Or is your bigotry selective?

Who are we to say the behavior of one group is acceptable, but the behavior of another group is not acceptable?

So you equate homosexuality and bigotry as equivalent behaviors?
Fuck you're an asshole.
 

Texashiker

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So you equate homosexuality and bigotry as equivalent behaviors?

Where did I say equivalent?

Are you so narrow minded you can not think in an abstract manner?

If racism (in-group bias) is natural and can be treated, can the same be said for homosexuality?
 

dank69

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That is simply not true.

Racism is being addressed as if it a learned behavior. Racism is not a learned behavior. It is natural and probably part of a survival instinct.

This in-group bias probably is hard programmed into our genes from when our ancestors were foraging and fighting for food.

But that does not mean we can not address it early.

If society will accept that racism is natural, then maybe we can develop better treatments.
It is a learned behavior. It is rooted in our natural tendency to fear things that are different but people raised in isolation wouldn't immediately hate other races once introduced to society. That behavior is cultivated.
 

dank69

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Where did I say equivalent?

Are you so narrow minded you can not think in an abstract manner?

If racism is natural and can be treated, can the same be said for homosexuality?
Who you are attracted to is not a behavior.
 

Texashiker

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It (ingroup bias) is a learned behavior.

I respectfully disagree.

30,000 years ago Homo-sapiens kill a horse, see those Neanderthals over there, they are not in our group so we are not sharing the meat.

All these wild onions the women harvested why the men were hunting, we are not sharing those onions with that other tribe.

In-group bias would help ensure the survival of your group. Screw the tribe in the next valley. Times are hard. Mammoth, horse and elk are getting scarce.
 

dank69

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I respectfully disagree.

30,000 years ago Homo-sapiens kill a horse, see those Neanderthals over there, they are not in our group so we are not sharing the meat.

All these wild onions the women harvested why the men were hunting, we are not sharing those onions with that other tribe.

In-group bias would help ensure the survival of your group. Screw the tribe in the next valley. Times are hard. Mammoth, horse and elk are getting scarce.
See that woman over there? I'm going to club her on the head and rape her.

Try to understand that there is a difference between natural instincts and the actual act of discrimination.
 

smackababy

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I respectfully disagree.

30,000 years ago Homo-sapiens kill a horse, see those Neanderthals over there, they are not in our group so we are not sharing the meat.

All these wild onions the women harvested why the men were hunting, we are not sharing those onions with that other tribe.

In-group bias would help ensure the survival of your group. Screw the tribe in the next valley. Times are hard. Mammoth, horse and elk are getting scarce.

You know what else is a natural behavior? Killing all those other tribes as well. Should we admit that is okay too? Is murderer now a hateful title?
 

Jaskalas

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The problem isn't acknowledging it as a natural trait. The problem is using that as some sort of excuse to justify the behavior. I would say people who discriminate against drug addicts are ignorant, too.

I believe in the case of Geo many people had a problem with that acknowledgement.

Group bias starts off as something simple. Yeah? That kid isn't the same as me or my family. Then you start to learn cultural and behavioral differences. We don't come from the same background. Then, worst of all, you learn the history of racism and have an opportunity to get caught up in all the bad blood that came before you even existed.

What starts as an insignificant natural divide turns into a hugely negative group bias which goes so far beyond the color of one's skin. It includes culture and history to the depths of which some people never return.

Segregation does not help in correction either. We have to spend time exposed to the other "groups" in order to realize they're not all bad. To learn, intelligently, that stereotypes are wrong and groups should not be painted with broad brushes. That there are individuals, if we are exposed to each other, that can come together and work out our common differences.

Even today many people never get that opportunity to learn what's right.

If we are willing to recognize the truth of what racism is, growing from a natural tribal instinct, then I believe we are better equipped to deal with it. We may even find some compassion for those not fortunate enough to overcome how they were born.
 

Texashiker

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See that woman over there? I'm going to club her on the head and rape her.

Try to understand that there is a difference between natural instincts and the actual act of discrimination.

You know what else is a natural behavior? Killing all those other tribes as well. Should we admit that is okay too? Is murderer now a hateful title?

Yall are missing the whole point, as I have stated several times.

Since yall seem to be lacking in reading comprehension I am going to restate my stance again.

Racism is being treated as if it is a learned behavior.

Based on studies like the one in the opening post, if society accepted that racism is natural, then maybe researchers can develop new and better treatments.

There is nothing in my stance that says racism is ok.
 

brycejones

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So you equate homosexuality and bigotry as equivalent behaviors?
Fuck you're an asshole.

It only took 2 pages to get to the real targeted troll of TH's thread.

Its amazing how everything he does comes around to homosexuality. Someday hopefully he will face what his real feelings for men are.
 

dank69

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Neither is racism. Certain behaviors just manifest from it.

Lynching black people is a behavior. Having the gay butt sex is a behavior.
Lynching people negatively affects other people. Gay butt sex does not.
 

Texashiker

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It only took 2 pages to get to the real targeted troll of TH's thread.

Its amazing how everything he does comes around to homosexuality. Someday hopefully he will face what his real feelings for men are.

Bull crap, gays are listed right there in the opening post.

If racism (in-group bias) is natural and can be treated, what else can be treated?

Maybe one day researches can find a treatment for gays.
 

MixMasterTang

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Yall are missing the whole point, as I have stated several times.

Since yall seem to be lacking in reading comprehension I am going to restate my stance again.

Racism is being treated as if it is a learned behavior.

Based on studies like the one in the opening post, if society accepted that racism is natural, then maybe researchers can develop new and better treatments.

There is nothing in my stance that says racism is ok.

Playing with dolls that are the same color as yourself, your parents (most likely), etc. isn't the type of "racism" that most people have an issue with. Thinking that someone is less of a human being because of the color of their skin and otherwise thinking they are "inferior" is the type of racism that IS a learned behavior.
 

Texashiker

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Lynching people negatively affects other people.

Is violence towards other groups a natural human behavior?

If children at 15 months old show traits of racism, what would those traits become if they were not influenced by societal norms?

As a responsible society it is our duty to teach children it is wrong to be biased.
 

dank69

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Yall are missing the whole point, as I have stated several times.

Since yall seem to be lacking in reading comprehension I am going to restate my stance again.

Racism is being treated as if it is a learned behavior.

Based on studies like the one in the opening post, if society accepted that racism is natural, then maybe researchers can develop new and better treatments.

There is nothing in my stance that says racism is ok.
You don't "treat" racism. The best you can do is try to correct the ignorance that prevents the racist from overcoming it.
 

Texashiker

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Thinking that someone is less of a human being because of the color of their skin and otherwise thinking they are "inferior" is the type of racism that IS a learned behavior.

Please tell me where "less of a human" has been mentioned in this thread?

Please tell me where the word "inferior" has been used?

You sir are bringing blatant racism into an otherwise good thread.


You don't "treat" racism. The best you can do is try to correct the ignorance that prevents the racist from overcoming it.

Since when is natural behavior ignorance?
 

dank69

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20% of gay men have HIV.

I would thinking having to pay for their expensive HIV medications affects other people
In America? Or are you using stats from third world countries to justify your belief about what is good for the US?
 

MixMasterTang

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As a responsible society it is our duty to teach children it is wrong to be biased.

This is showing your black and white thinking again. Liking italian food more than british food means you have a bias favored towards italian food. Teaching kids to be tolerant and not judging things based on looks, skin color or other preconceived notions is part of a responsible society.
 

CitizenKain

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Bull crap, gays are listed right there in the opening post.

If racism (in-group bias) is natural and can be treated, what else can be treated?

Maybe one day researches can find a treatment for gays.

Maybe one day they'll a find a treatment for redneck trash like yourself.

Well, beyond an education. I understand that you "people" down there have issues with books and learning.
 

MixMasterTang

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Please tell me where "less of a human" has been mentioned in this thread?

Please tell me where the word "inferior" has been used?

You sir are bringing blatant racism into an otherwise good thread.




Since when is natural behavior ignorance?

It was not mentioned before my post, but you're grouping race preference with all of racism, which includes the items I listed. Again, you're black and white views make you look like a loon.