146 Earmarks for Minnesota

[imported_Shivetya]

Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

 

[Fern]

A 5 cent increase?

Only (#1) after they prove that the 18.3 cents a gallon tax is being 100% for highways/bridges etc.

And (#2) after they cut back on crappy earmarks...

Fern

 

[Genx87]

I heard the number of pork in his district was closer to 26 million. Anyways some of the earmakrs and pork that guy has brought in for the iron range keeps him getting elected every year. Those people up in his district literally live off govt subsidies.

When I heard him invoke God I knew he was a bigger douchebag than previously believed.

These vultures are unbelievable. How somebody can ask for more money after failing so miserably with the money they have is beyond me. It would be like me royally screwing up my job to the point of catastrophy, then ask my boss for a raise under the premise that I would have only did the job better if I had more money in my pocket.

Now do you think my boss would give me that raise or fire my ass. Yet amazingly we the tax payers give the raise over and over.

 

[GoPackGo]

All I can say is I'm glad we had our flood control project!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

 

[BoberFett]

FOAD Dave, your trolling is old. I fail to understand how your worthless ass hasn't been permabanned.

 

[heartsurgeon]

the latest info suggests that $1.5 million was to have been spent on installing steel reinforcement..this was nixed...7 months before the bridge collapsed...the bridge appears to have failed at the point where the most steel plates were schedulaed to have been installed.

FYI minnesota has a 2 billion dollar surplus in tax revenue this year...and congress just voted then $250,000,000 emergency funds to rebuild the bridge...

gee, a cynic would say that if you don't spend your money on maintaining your bridges, when they collapse, you;ll just get more money to replace them from the FEDs.

Minn had the money, had the problem identified, and had a plan to mitigate against it. The problem isn't money, or that a "fluke" event occurred. The problem is incompetent people making the wrong decision...

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
FOAD Dave, your trolling is old. I fail to understand how your worthless ass hasn't been permabanned.

With the way you hurl obscene insults at those you disagree with, I'd think you'd be shown the door first.

:|

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

What I really want to know is what happened to the blank check that bush was gonna write for bridge repair? Last figure was 250 million...Wasen't it enough?

Edit....

Look at all the money we find every day to kill people!!!! Why couldn't we have taken some of that money for bridge repair?

If we can find money to kill people, then we can find money to help people....

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: BoberFett
FOAD Dave, your trolling is old. I fail to understand how your worthless ass hasn't been permabanned.

With the way you hurl obscene insults at those you disagree with, I'd think you'd be shown the door first.

:|

Didn't you know? Being an asshole on P&N is encouraged, even required.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

What I really want to know is what happened to the blank check that bush was gonna write for bridge repair? Last figure was 250 million...Wasen't it enough?

What?

 

[manowar821]

They don't need more money. They need to learn how to better make use of money.

Shit no, we're not going to give you more money to fix YOUR mistakes.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

What I really want to know is what happened to the blank check that bush was gonna write for bridge repair? Last figure was 250 million...Wasen't it enough?

What?

What do we have a comprehension problem????? Can't read? Well, too bad...

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: manowar821
They don't need more money. They need to learn how to better make use of money.

Shit no, we're not going to give you more money to fix YOUR mistakes.

I agree with you, but I could've sworn that I saw you complaining about the people that don't want to pay an extra 5 cents to fix bridges and roads in a different post. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<<<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

What I really want to know is what happened to the blank check that bush was gonna write for bridge repair? Last figure was 250 million...Wasen't it enough?

What?

What do we have a comprehension problem????? Can't read? Well, too bad...

Yes, I do have a problem comprehending incoherent babling about religion in a thread about earmarks and taxes.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: ericlp
[
And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

-snip-

Umm... "God help you" is just an expression, not exhortation of religious ferver etc.

You got kinda carried away, huh?

Otherwise, please keep your Bible sermons to yourself. I don't come here to hear about your religion. Damn Bible thumpers

Fern

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: manowar821
They don't need more money. They need to learn how to better make use of money.

Shit no, we're not going to give you more money to fix YOUR mistakes.

I agree with you, but I could've sworn that I saw you complaining about the people that don't want to pay an extra 5 cents to fix bridges and roads in a different post. Maybe I'm wrong.

Really..? I don't think I'd say that... Maybe I'll look back a few posts.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

I was unaware it was part of a politicians job to make sure existing bridges are safe. :roll:

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: manowar821
They don't need more money. They need to learn how to better make use of money.

Shit no, we're not going to give you more money to fix YOUR mistakes.

I agree with you, but I could've sworn that I saw you complaining about the people that don't want to pay an extra 5 cents to fix bridges and roads in a different post. Maybe I'm wrong.

Really..? I don't think I'd say that... Maybe I'll look back a few posts.

I dunno, maybe I'm hallucinating after a long day at work.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the latest info suggests that $1.5 million was to have been spent on installing steel reinforcement..this was nixed...7 months before the bridge collapsed...the bridge appears to have failed at the point where the most steel plates were schedulaed to have been installed.

FYI minnesota has a 2 billion dollar surplus in tax revenue this year...and congress just voted then $250,000,000 emergency funds to rebuild the bridge...

gee, a cynic would say that if you don't spend your money on maintaining your bridges, when they collapse, you;ll just get more money to replace them from the FEDs.

Minn had the money, had the problem identified, and had a plan to mitigate against it. The problem isn't money, or that a "fluke" event occurred. The problem is incompetent people making the wrong decision...

The MN legislature worked hard to spend that 2 billion and then some. Yes that DFL legislature wanted to raise taxes when we are running surpluses. Gives you a glimpse into the insane world these policians live and an idea of the spending increases on pet projects they were planning. Luckily the gov vetoed it.

MN has the money, we just like to spend it in all the wrong places. Like 500 million for a light rail line that does nothing for traffic and comes in 8 or 12 different languages. Half of our transporation budget in this state goes to mass transit that probably takes .5% of the traffic off the road.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

Where was your moaning and groaning about your heroes the last 7 years???

And there are the republicans talking about God and Money ... Funny how they both go hand in hand? Corruption at it's finniest. If you don't want to pay the tax, then we'll put the fear of God into you! hahaha Unbelievable! Sheesh, I could see this sh!t being said 50 years ago but it's 2007! Oh yeah I keep forgetting, we still got tardo running the nation....

I agree with others... Only a nickel? Hell, I think it should be a dollar... Crack open that bible and pull a bush on em. You know... You spend a dollar walk in the light... spend nothing walk in darkness! You know add a friggen verse. Hell, you could read half the bible and ask for 2 bucks........... hahahaha Sad...really is...

What I really want to know is what happened to the blank check that bush was gonna write for bridge repair? Last figure was 250 million...Wasen't it enough?

Edit....

Look at all the money we find every day to kill people!!!! Why couldn't we have taken some of that money for bridge repair?

If we can find money to kill people, then we can find money to help people....

You do realize Oberstar is a DFLer right? That is democrat for those who dont live in MN.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: BoberFett
FOAD Dave, your trolling is old. I fail to understand how your worthless ass hasn't been permabanned.

With the way you hurl obscene insults at those you disagree with, I'd think you'd be shown the door first.

:|

When intelligent conversation is posted, I respond in kind. Likewise whenever Dave posts I ridicule the worthless pile of dung he calls his opinion. If all you ever see me do is flame it means the only thing you're reading are the worthless posts by the likes of Dave. Try expanding your horizon to meaningful discussion.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Shortly after this month's Interstate 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis, which killed at least nine people, Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., proposed a 5-cent increase in the federal government's 18.3-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for bridge repairs across the country.


<<"If you're not prepared to invest another five cents in bridge reconstruction and road reconstruction, then God help you," Rep. Oberstar told the Rochester Post-Bulletin.


Take more money from us and try to shame us into it? What about all the wasted money in earmarks? Why wasn't bridge repair more important than those? He could spend 14.6 MILLION dollars for a recreation trail yet not find money to examine or fix bridges?

Typical Congress. Yet people will vote his sorry tail back in again and again and fork over their taxes to an irresponsible Congress without real complaint. Oh sure, they will whine about high gas prices, much of it taxes like this new proposal, but they certainly won't support candidates who might try and make government work

I was unaware it was part of a politicians job to make sure existing bridges are safe. :roll:

Then why do we put their names on them?

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Then why do we put their names on them?

We don't, they do

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the latest info suggests that $1.5 million was to have been spent on installing steel reinforcement..this was nixed...7 months before the bridge collapsed...the bridge appears to have failed at the point where the most steel plates were schedulaed to have been installed.

FYI minnesota has a 2 billion dollar surplus in tax revenue this year...and congress just voted then $250,000,000 emergency funds to rebuild the bridge...

gee, a cynic would say that if you don't spend your money on maintaining your bridges, when they collapse, you;ll just get more money to replace them from the FEDs.

Minn had the money, had the problem identified, and had a plan to mitigate against it. The problem isn't money, or that a "fluke" event occurred. The problem is incompetent people making the wrong decision...

The MN legislature worked hard to spend that 2 billion and then some. Yes that DFL legislature wanted to raise taxes when we are running surpluses. Gives you a glimpse into the insane world these policians live and an idea of the spending increases on pet projects they were planning. Luckily the gov vetoed it.

MN has the money, we just like to spend it in all the wrong places. Like 500 million for a light rail line that does nothing for traffic and comes in 8 or 12 different languages. Half of our transporation budget in this state goes to mass transit that probably takes .5% of the traffic off the road.

You are not going to bother to correct him?
We most certianly did not have a 2 billion dollar surplus this year, and we most certianly did not work hard to spend it. Any surplus was no work at all to spend since the last budget cycle put off and cut services to the tune of 2.5 billion.

Our light rail is a joke, but half of nothing is still nothing.