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14-year-old changes teacher's desktop background. Gets felony charges.

this is what he got nailed for. i'm not gonna feel bad for the kid cuz he already got suspended once over it.

Sheriff Chris Nocco said Thursday that Green logged onto the school's network on March 31 using an administrative-level password without permission
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But Green, interviewed at home, said students would often log into the administrative account to screen-share with their friends. They'd use the school computers' cameras to see each other, he said.
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Green had previously received a three-day suspension for accessing the system inappropriately. Other students also got in trouble at the time, he said. It was a well-known trick, Green said, because the password was easy to remember: a teacher's last name. He said he discovered it by watching the teacher type it in.
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Seems rather excessive, but I understand the need to punish for accessing very sensitive information.

Reality is, this 8th grader broke into the "ultra secure" terminals that the school or district paid some IT jerk to set up.

Suspend the kid, then give him a medal/recruit him or encourage him to set up a hacking club or some crap at school to keep himself and other nerds happy while honing their skills towards positive ends.

Also, IT jerk(s) should be fired, or at least punished equally.
 
zinfamous said:
Suspend the kid, then give him a medal/recruit him or encourage him to set up a hacking club or some crap at school to keep himself and other nerds happy while honing their skills towards positive ends.
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they already suspended him once and he did it again.
 
the password should have been changed after the first incident. I blame the administration for this not the kid.

If you know an unauthorized person is accessing the system it's stupid not to.
 
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Seems excessive. For me it would depend a lot on whether the kid knew the extent of the punishment he might be facing for a second offense. There's some fault to be turned toward the school for not having better security, but the ultimate blame goes to the perpetrator. If he knew what he was doing was wrong, you have to hold him accountable for it regardless of how easy they made it for him to do it.
 
dawp said:
the password should have been changed after the first incident. I blame the administration for this not the kid.

If you know an unauthorized person is accessing the system it's stupid not to.
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this, its basic security along with password having to be changed frequently. i blame the school.

putting a felony on a kid for this is stupid.
 
Wow that's retarded, he should have been punished by the school, maybe suspended at very most (even that seems too far), but charged by the law like he's a huge criminal? That's completely absurd. What's next, get charged for not doing your math homework?

Companies and organizations need to be held accountable for their network security, instead of giving ridiculous sentences to people who get in. If I leave a box full of gold bars on my front lawn and call the cops because it was stolen, they're going to laugh and not do anything because I did not even secure it. The laws seem to be completely crazy the minute something has to do with computers.

When I was in high school we did computer pranks fairly often, nobody ever got in trouble. In fact most of the time the teachers even found it funny, and just had us put it back how it was once the joke was over. Best one was when we reconnected the monitors, keyboards and mice randomly to different machines in the lab. So much confusion for the next class lol.
 
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I'm guessing someone told him the password, or a situation came up that provided him with it. Ex...teacher says..."Just log in as this..."

It's a problem in K12. There's usually 1 part-time IT guy that's also the gym teacher or whatever...no real security. Those charges should be thrown out. The kid hasn't been alive long enough to understand what a real cyberthreat is.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Wow that's retarded, he should have been punished by the school, maybe suspended at very most (even that seems too far), but charged by the law like he's a huge criminal? That's completely absurd. What's next, get charged for not doing your math homework?

Companies and organizations need to be held accountable for their network security, instead of giving ridiculous sentences to people who get in. If I leave a box full of gold bars on my front lawn and call the cops because it was stolen, they're going to laugh and not do anything because I did not even secure it. The laws seem to be completely crazy the minute something has to do with computers.

When I was in high school we did computer pranks fairly often, nobody ever got in trouble. In fact most of the time the teachers even found it funny, and just had us put it back how it was once the joke was over. Best one was when we reconnected the monitors, keyboards and mice randomly to different machines in the lab. So much confusion for the next class lol.
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Exactly.
 
irishScott said:
Public school budgets suck. They scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to IT.
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you don't need a budget to know setting your last name as a password if a bad fing idea

shit, there are free password generators out there and im pretty sure one of them in built into windows
 
Anubis said:
you don't need a budget to know setting your last name as a password if a bad fing idea

shit, there are free password generators out there and im pretty sure one of them in built into windows
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You'd be surprised what turns up for $14 an hour. Hell just a few months ago a government IT Security consultant making six figures was busted for kiddie porn. How was he busted? The guy didn't know to turn javascript off when you're using tor; specifically a javascript technique that anyone who pays attention knew had been discovered months earlier and made some waves in the security world. I have a whopping single college course dealing with security under my belt, I should apply for that douchebag's salary. 😀

Just saying never underestimate incompetence, it's everywhere and tends to build up at the bottom. 😛
 
If I accidentally leave my car door open with my keys in the ignition and someone steals the car should he/she be charged with Grand Theft Auto?
 
When I was in high school me and my friends would change the bouncing text screen saver in the computer lab to say vaguely dirty sounding phrases.

I'd probably be considered a "hacker" by these bozos.
 
irishScott said:
Public school budgets suck. They scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to IT.
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More likely the publicly elected superintendent couldn't remember it so they told IT to use last names and when IT complained, they were shot down. Blame the bottom of the bucket administration.
 
blackdogdeek said:
If I accidentally leave my car door open with my keys in the ignition and someone steals the car should he/she be charged with Grand Theft Auto?
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if purposefully making a strawman argument that has a bad analogy in it and then posted it on a forum and tried to make it sound like it was apt was a crime, you'd be in jail.



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