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$14.50 fee to ship packages with outgoing mail???!!

GunsMadeAmericaFree

Golden Member
Today I got this letter from the local postmaster:
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The whole issue stems from a CPU trade I did with someone here on AnandTech. I probably average 2 or 3 packages sent out a month - usually around the 1 pound size. I figure that a decent number of you have probably either bought, sold or traded something through the mail, and since I've never run into anything like this, I thought I'd ask if any of you had experience with it. In a nutshell, I'm being asked to pay an extra $14.50 (plus postage) if I want to mail out any more packages.

I grew up on a rural route in NW Ohio. I remember being able to easily put a package in the mailbox and get it picked up with no problems or hassles.

Then I moved to the city. Things went ok there until some fool sent bombs, white powder or something through the mail, and then they always wanted you to DRIVE to the post office to mail just about anything a pound or more.

Later, when Paypal added the ability to log in and print a mailing label with delivery confirmation, I was overjoyed. Finally people couldn't bug me about the 1 pound rule any more, because there were no stamps on the package - just digital postage. It had all the origin info and everything stamped right on there with a barcode, so no need for me to walk in to a post office.

Now, I can sort of understand why they don't want the city carriers to have to pick up larger packages - they park their cars, and then walk 2 or 3 blocks picking things up and doing deliveries. They aren't equipped for picking up a lot of packages and carrying them long distance. However, the rural carriers are right in their truck. They have plenty of space, and just throw any packages in the back. They don't have to walk all over the place for blocks carrying it.

The letter claims that after buying the digital postage online, I also need to:

A) call their 800 #
or

B) get on their website and inform them that a package will be ready for pickup
or

C) pay them a $14.50 fee

This letter bothers me on SO MANY levels:

1) I grew up on 'Rural Route 2', WAY out in the boonies, and nobody ever mentioned anything like this. In fact, I can't find anything about a $14.50 fee for rural pickup anywhere when doing a search online. It is like they made it up out of thin air.

2) The letter assumes that I have a telephone or Internet access. Last time I checked, I thought that the postal service relied on sending physical packages, and not on someone having e-mail, telephone or Internet. As such, it certainly seems that there should not be an extra fee for anyone who doesn't happen to have those conveniences. Sure, I do happen to have them in this case, but there are those who do not, and they should not be penalized.

3) From what they are implying, they seem to be saying that I'm supposed to inform them a day ahead of time that a package will be put in the mailbox THE NEXT DAY for pickup. Sorry, but doing that would add a full day to the delivery of most packages that I send out. That is a ridiculous delay for packages when I'm paying extra to get them places in 2 or 3 days - adding as much as 50% to the delivery time.

4) I should not have to inform ANYONE other than the person I'm sending a package to that I'm mailing their package. Having to call someone else up and tell them seems like an invasion of privacy to me, and an unnecessary layer of red tape. A mail carrier is already sticking their hand in my mailbox with letters and ads - it doesn't seem like too much trouble to grab a package on the way out as well.

5) When I purchase the digital postage online, doesn't the USPS system already get "informed" that I have purchased the postage, that the package is being mailed, and the info on the delivery confirmation #? It would seem to me to be a very, very easy thing to do to have the system forward this info on to whatever carrier handles the route that would be picking up said package. Why should it be MY job to give them this info a second time, when they should already have it? Update your damn software!

Imagine if gas stations were run this way. 'Oh, sorry, you should have planned ahead and called us *YESTERDAY* to let us know you needed gas. Since you didn't, there will be an extra $15 surcharge to fill up your tank today, on the spur of the moment.'

I needed to blow off some steam over this, obviously. I mail things out maybe 2 or 3 times a month. I'm on dialup, and I'm definitely not going to spend an extra 15 minutes logging on and informing their system about a package every time. I'm not going to call an 800# and wait on hold or navigate a voice prompt. I'm certainly not going to pay some $14.50 fee, either.

I really think what they are asking is unnecessary, and I'm still wondering if this $14.50 fee is bogus. Have any of you ever encountered such a thing?


Thanks!
 
postmasters are kings of their area, they are given a lot of wiggle room to do things thier way.

like in my town i live in. If you live within the town you have to have PO Box they will not and can not deliver mail within the town. BUT if you live out on a rural road they will deliver mail and no PO box is required. to me that is just ass backwards.
 
Major lulz @ not having a phone and the "invasion of privacy" 😀

I think people who don't have a phone are used to having to deal with the inconvenience. We don't need to change the way we do things to accommodate people who don't have a phone.
 
Seems to jive with their website. Basically if you don't inform them a day ahead then you get put into the Pick Up On-demand category.
 
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Your postal carrier is under no obligation to accept packages over 1 lb. Either play by their rules or don't ship packages > 1 lb.
 
Your postal carrier is under no obligation to accept packages over 1 lb. Either play by their rules or don't ship packages > 1 lb.

it's actually 70lbs. For 1lb you just can't have stamps as postage, if you do you have to drop it off at the post office yourself.
 
Rural route here too. I just stick cash in the mailbox with whatever I'm sending. They leave the correct change.
 
Um, I thought it was always necessary to go on their website to schedule a pick-up. The only time you can just stick packages in the mailbox for the to pick up is if they are First Class packages, with a 12 oz weight limit I believe.

Misleading title, pick-up is free if you follow directions.
 
Um, I thought it was always necessary to go on their website to schedule a pick-up. The only time you can just stick packages in the mailbox for the to pick up is if they are First Class packages, with a 12 oz weight limit I believe.

Misleading title, pick-up is free if you follow directions.

I just drop my packages off at the post office, they have a parcel collection bin there.

Luckily, it's on my way to work, so it's not an inconvenience.
 
Um, I thought it was always necessary to go on their website to schedule a pick-up..

Nope - my parents confirm that they are still able to just go out and put a package in the mailbox. It is picked up and delivered - no extra fees or being hassled about it. (and they use stamps)

Then again, there are a decent number of Amish near my hometown, and they certainly don't have a telephone or Internet. Perhaps this is an allowance that they make locally, and I just have come to expect this level of service from the post office everywhere?
 
Moronic thread is moronic.

You don't have to pay that fee you freaking crazy! It outlines two ways to get free pickup! Just log on and fill out the form. If you only send a package here and there, it's not that much of a fucking big deal you are making it out to be. And if you spend the time online to do the Paypal label and everything, you can spend the time to do that.
 
The USPS weight limit is 13 oz.
Since the September, 2001 "terror attacks" & anthrax mailings, any "postage stamp" parcel weighing more than 13 oz. cannot be:
a. dropped into a street corner mail box or:
b. left for pickup at your home address.
However, Priority Mail that was paid for at the USPS web site and printed on your own printer can be scheduled for next day home address free pickup, and the weight limit is raised to 70 lbs. Whether urban or rural shouldn't make any difference, as long as it's SCHEDULED.
Obviously, an internet connection and also a credit card would be required to participate.
The letter that you posted doesn't allow for unscheduled pickup when using 3rd-party electronic postage (such as Stamps.com or Pitney-Bowes) for "over 13 oz." items.
Which might incur extra "security costs" to the USPS if such were allowed.

If I were to complain to the USPS, I'd want to know why their automated postage machines (located inside the Post Office) don't allow for Media Mail shipments. Media Mail weighing over 13 oz. MUST be presented at a USPS facility to an employee for mailing.
Other packages over 13 oz. can be shipped via the automated postage machines without problem when using First Class, Parcel Post or Priority Mail. A credit card is required to use them.
 
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If I were to complain to the USPS, I'd want to know why their automated postage machines (located inside the Post Office) don't allow for Media Mail shipments. Media Mail weighing over 13 oz. MUST be presented at a USPS facility to an employee for mailing.
Other packages over 13 oz. can be shipped via the automated postage machines without problem when using First Class, Parcel Post or Priority Mail. A credit card is required to use them.

because fuckers are shipping everything Media Mail.
 
They say you have to call their 800 # or inform them via website or pay them a $14.50 fee and you say you're not going to do any of those, so I guess you won't be mailing out any more packages - problem solved.
 
because fuckers are shipping everything Media Mail.
Someone send 8+ very large packages ($30+ each) from NY to here in CA via Media Mail. Packages had some rough handling and contents were exposed. The recipient is getting a postage due notice of over $280.
 
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