1366x768 and 1280x768 lcd tv are those pc compatible resolutions

humanentity

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im looking for an lcd tv from lg or phillips, i have found several affordable 26" models some are 1280x768 other are 1366x768, when i dig on desktop and games resolutions i find that only 1280x768 is in my desktop resolution list, and that neither of them are supported in valve games like counter strike.

what do you know about this
will a 26 inch lcd tv with 1280x768 resolution be too much pixelated at native resolution?
will i suffer too much image degradation when watching not high definition channels (im in europe all cannels i get are not hd) dut to interpolation to lower resolutions?

will i find same problem watching dvds (they r low res rnt they)

is ghosting so noticeable in a 26 inch 16ms lcd tv

thanx and sorry for some much ignorance but i have just began my research and have more questions than other stuff.

 

Peter

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Non-HDTV is only 525 lines anyway. It'll look awful on ANY large panel.
 

amdnVuser

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nVIDIA's latest driver release includes support for 1366x768 (I don't know about ATI...don't really care since I can't stand them). Like Peter said, any standard definition signal will look grainy on any high resolution fixed pixel display. How grainy depends on the quality and sophistication of the video scaler that's integrated into the LCD you purchase. Also, I never really trust what manufacturers list as response time (not to mention that the response time they list is not a really good indicator of actual color responsitivity). Therefore, I'd highly recommend viewing the LCD at a retail store before purchasing (ask them to play standard definition, DVD, and HD signals on it) to determine if its responsivity is to your satisfaction.
 

Peter

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Well, if you're running through a graphics card, then its video scalers will have a say in improving the image as well. However, you can't compute any new information into an input signal - you can just make it look bad in a different way, e.g. blurry instead of blocky, half-resolution instead of jaggy edges on fast moving things, etc. etc.

ATi's drivers auto-detect "special" resolution panels on DVI, and add the resolution to the list of available ones.
 

Todd33

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The LCDs are PC monitors too. I'm a getting a 37" 1920x1080 this month.
 

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They are indeed widescreen PC resolutions. Most of these TV's look great while gaming, but may look a tad blurry if you only sit like a foot away from it. If you sit 4-5 feet away like a normal TV watching atmosphere than the displays look awesome.

I use a 50" LCD at 1280x720 (720p) now and may grab a 30" LCD w/ a max res of 1920x1080 later this year. (The higher res TV's are coming out this year, supports 1080p signals).
 

amdnVuser

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So can someone point me to a 1080p LCD with HDCP (on DVI or HDMI) currently for sale?
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: amdnVuser
Originally posted by: Todd33
The LCDs are PC monitors too. I'm a getting a 37" 1920x1080 this month.

Which one?

Probably the Costco Septre one for $1699. Easy to return if it sucks. There is also a Westinghouse one for $2000-$2200.
 

ArchAngel777

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Probably the Costco Septre one for $1699. Easy to return if it sucks. There is also a Westinghouse one for $2000-$2200.

Just some friendly advice... Steer clear of Westinhouse. I have first hand experience with PC-Hookup and it sucks. I cannot even begin to tell you how crappy the LCD display was when hooked up to a PC. Our tech firm was going to use it for a hanging 3-way display but once we found out how bad it sucked, we returned it right away. We then tried a Phillips and that one looked great. We tried a few of each, so I am sure it wasn't just bad luck. Just wanted to spare you some pain, potentially.
 

Liver

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Probably the Costco Septre one for $1699. Easy to return if it sucks. There is also a Westinghouse one for $2000-$2200.

Just some friendly advice... Steer clear of Westinhouse. I have first hand experience with PC-Hookup and it sucks. I cannot even begin to tell you how crappy the LCD display was when hooked up to a PC. Our tech firm was going to use it for a hanging 3-way display but once we found out how bad it sucked, we returned it right away. We then tried a Phillips and that one looked great. We tried a few of each, so I am sure it wasn't just bad luck. Just wanted to spare you some pain, potentially.

That is flat out wrong. There are hundreds of users on AVSForum using the Westinghouse with 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920x1080 with stellar performance.

There are 2 DVI inputs to the Westinghouse, one is 1080i (540 lines) and the other is 1080p (computer or 1920x1080). Only the 1080p DVI will look good with a computer.

I am sure it was not bad luck, just not set up correctly. I have one and it is stellar. There is nothing else on the market yet. I am using this monitor until the SXRD flat Sonys come out.

People mention the Sharp Aquous (sp), but it needs to be "hacked" to deliver 1920x1080, but once done, it phenomenal, it is also over $6000. There are several models of the 45 Sharp and not all can do 1920x1080 from a PC.

The Spectre at CostCo is not $1699. Look closer at the price, I assume you are mentioning the coupon with the rebates? It is ONLY for in home delivery, and that adds $199 for "white glove service."

BestBuy has the Westinghouse for $1999 now (online). I bought it at the BM BestBuy and with the TV, 4 year service agreement (a SINGLE dead pixel and I get a new one), and rewards program I paid $2080 out the door. You just have to ask.

CostCo has a great return policy. They will even refund the "white glove service."

Seriously check out avsforum for the average Joes setting up the Westinghouse with HTPCs and getting awesome results. I did and I am glad I did.

Edit: I should mention I limited my 1080p search to flat panels that can be wall mounted.

Liver
 

ArchAngel777

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That is flat out wrong. There are hundreds of users on AVSForum using the Westinghouse with 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920x1080 with stellar performance.

There are 2 DVI inputs to the Westinghouse, one is 1080i (540 lines) and the other is 1080p (computer or 1920x1080). Only the 1080p DVI will look good with a computer.

I am sure it was not bad luck, just not set up correctly. I have one and it is stellar. There is nothing else on the market yet. I am using this monitor until the SXRD flat Sonys come out.

People mention the Sharp Aquous (sp), but it needs to be "hacked" to deliver 1920x1080, but once done, it phenomenal, it is also over $6000. There are several models of the 45 Sharp and not all can do 1920x1080 from a PC.

The Spectre at CostCo is not $1699. Look closer at the price, I assume you are mentioning the coupon with the rebates? It is ONLY for in home delivery, and that adds $199 for "white glove service."

BestBuy has the Westinghouse for $1999 now (online). I bought it at the BM BestBuy and with the TV, 4 year service agreement (a SINGLE dead pixel and I get a new one), and rewards program I paid $2080 out the door. You just have to ask.

CostCo has a great return policy. They will even refund the "white glove service."

Seriously check out avsforum for the average Joes setting up the Westinghouse with HTPCs and getting awesome results. I did and I am glad I did.

Edit: I should mention I limited my 1080p search to flat panels that can be wall mounted.

Liver

I am glad you enjoy yours... I had bad experience, and trust me, it wasn't setup improperly. Not that I even need to protect my tech ability, but suppose it was not setup correctly... But then why did the ViewSonic LCD 30" work fine right away? Speachless, right? Unless you admit it is a better product. So, that pretty much disproves your somewhat rude comment. But anyway, I was just giving advice based on what I have used.

Bottom line, the LCD was setup correctly and looked plain bad. I am glad yours worked fine. YMMV
 

batmanuel

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I'm actually holding off on the 1080p panels. The seem a bit pointless right now, since the majority of the content is at 720p and 1080i resolutions. Heck, right now I'd be happy if ALL my cable channels were merely broadcast 720p. Seems to me like it is a better idea to grab a decent 1280x768 LCD panel now (I just noticed that Dell has their 30" LCD for $1299 now after a $500 discount, which is a killer deal) and get an awesome 1080p panel a few years down the line when BluRay DVD players are as cheap as the regular DVDs now.
 

ArchAngel777

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I'm actually holding off on the 1080p panels. The seem a bit pointless right now, since the majority of the content is at 720p and 1080i resolutions. Heck, right now I'd be happy if ALL my cable channels were merely broadcast 720p. Seems to me like it is a better idea to grab a decent 1280x768 LCD panel now (I just noticed that Dell has their 30" LCD for $1299 now after a $500 discount, which is a killer deal) and get an awesome 1080p panel a few years down the line when BluRay DVD players are as cheap as the regular DVDs now.

Right on :D :thumbsup: