13% of Republicans think Obama is the anti-Christ

[Robor]

Originally posted by: DucatiMonster696
What a skewed thread and article by the biased and hack so called journalistic website the Huffington Post. Should we start posting some of the wacky left leaning beliefs professed by 13% or less of liberals and attach those same beliefs to all liberals in general? Just imagine the outcry and outrage by resident liberal posters if some were to make the case that because a percentage of liberals have sympathy if not out right support of terrorist groups like Hamas or Al Qeada that these views should be applied to all liberals. Or better yet image if someone were to espouse that because there were liberals who professed support for dictators like Hugo Chavez and the Fidel brothers that this support would some how indict all liberals as being communist sympathizers or supporters. Hell one could top these two and conduct a poll amongst liberals who supported the ACLU's actions toward defending NAMBLA members and then use that as means to justify calling liberals supporters of child molestation.

Oh look, another right wing nutbag new account.

 

[JKing106]

It's hilarious that people who kiss Bush's ass, even after he shredded the Constitution, wiretapped every phone call for 8 years, intentionally threw political prisoners into a prison outside of America soil so they wouldn't have any rights by law, murdered roughly a million Iraqi's and Afghans, and intentionally drove the economy into the toilet for the big taxpayer payoff they engineered call Obama a fascist? It blows my mind. Everything Bush did during his presidency has fascism written all over it. And you're going to call someone who is trying to take some power back from the corporations a fucking fascist?!

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: n yusef
You gotta admit; this poll is pretty embarrassing.

and 98% of huffington post employees think bush was the anti-christ.

why does ANYONE listen to stupid ass polls? Im sure I could find 25% of atheiests believe there is a God too. And of course there is the 97% of Prison inmates that feel they were wrongly incarcerated. And the 73% of roulette players who feel that because its been red the last 14 times that its just GOT TO BE black this time.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: piasabird
We do not think O'Bamma is the Anti-Christ. He is however a Nazi, a communist and a fascist pig. Just because he sold out on the missle defense is no big deal; it is OK if everyone dies from incoming muclear missles. Maybe they can take out the west coast first.

Wow, a communist, a nazi, and a fascist.... he is multiple opposing ideologies at once! He must be amazing!

You know, they're all interchangeable ....

 

[Elias824]

I think something like 33% of the U.S still believes 9/11 was an inside job. What about everyone that was talking about King bush, and his weather machine a few years ago. I Just saw a bumper sticker at my school yesterday that said "Bush Satan 04".
Lesson #1- Every side has crazy people on it, the left has them and the right has them. The left just get the hippies and the right get the crazy social conservatives.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Elias824
I think something like 33% of the U.S still believes 9/11 was an inside job. What about everyone that was talking about King bush, and his weather machine a few years ago. I Just saw a bumper sticker at my school yesterday that said "Bush Satan 04".
Lesson #1- Every side has crazy people on it, the left has them and the right has them. The left just get the hippies and the right get the crazy social conservatives.

Not exactly. In fact, far more Americans believe Saddam was involved in 9/11 (41%, down from 70% in 2003) than Bush was (14%).

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2...lieve_Saddam_0624.html (2007, can't find anything more recent, but I'm not aware of any further evidence disproving the link after 2007)

vs

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...mainstream.php?ref=fpa

Nor did mainstream dem leaders embrace or introduce legislation concerning a Bush-9/11 connection. Olbermann, Maher and other lefty talking heads called the Truthers, Nutters. But ask the GOP leadership or any talking head at Fox today if there were death panels in the healthcare bill, or if obama was born in hawaii, or if Obama speaking to students would result in liberal indoctrination.

The levels of crazy, and the acceptance of the crazies by the mainstream in the party, are not really comparable.

 

[Elias824]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Elias824
I think something like 33% of the U.S still believes 9/11 was an inside job. What about everyone that was talking about King bush, and his weather machine a few years ago. I Just saw a bumper sticker at my school yesterday that said "Bush Satan 04".
Lesson #1- Every side has crazy people on it, the left has them and the right has them. The left just get the hippies and the right get the crazy social conservatives.

Not exactly. In fact, far more Americans believe Saddam was involved in 9/11 (41%, down from 70% in 2003) than Bush was (14%).

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2...lieve_Saddam_0624.html (2007, can't find anything more recent, but I'm not aware of any further evidence disproving the link after 2007)

vs

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...mainstream.php?ref=fpa

Nor did mainstream dem leaders embrace or introduce legislation concerning a Bush-9/11 connection. Olbermann, Maher and other lefty talking heads called the Truthers, Nutters. But ask the GOP leadership or any talking head at Fox today if there were death panels in the healthcare bill, or if obama was born in hawaii, or if Obama speaking to students would result in liberal indoctrination.

The levels of crazy, and the acceptance of the crazies by the mainstream in the party, are not really comparable.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...instream.php?ref=fpblg

In addition, respondents were asked whether each of the two most recent presidents are the Anti-Christ. For former President George W. Bush being the Anti-Christ: 8% yes, 81% no, 11% undecided, with a breakdown among Democrats of 14%-75%-11%. And whether President Obama is the Anti-Christ: 10% yes, 79% no, 11% undecided, with a split of 19%-67%-15% among Republicans.

As for the left, check out this question: "Do you think President Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?" The top-line response is 14% yes, 78% no, and 8% undecided. But among Democrats, it's a somewhat larger Truther contingent, at 25%-63%-12%.

Everyone thinks someone is the anti-christ because everyone always thinks the world is coming to an end. Yes there are to many republicans that are still going on about this birther non-sense but they havent made a movie about it yet. Everyone is just getting crazier and more partisan. Arguing that your party is less crazy is like winning the special Olympics.

Edit: yeah I was abit off on my numbers, but my point is the same.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Elias824

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Elias824
I think something like 33% of the U.S still believes 9/11 was an inside job. What about everyone that was talking about King bush, and his weather machine a few years ago. I Just saw a bumper sticker at my school yesterday that said "Bush Satan 04".
Lesson #1- Every side has crazy people on it, the left has them and the right has them. The left just get the hippies and the right get the crazy social conservatives.

Not exactly. In fact, far more Americans believe Saddam was involved in 9/11 (41%, down from 70% in 2003) than Bush was (14%).

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2...lieve_Saddam_0624.html (2007, can't find anything more recent, but I'm not aware of any further evidence disproving the link after 2007)

vs

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...mainstream.php?ref=fpa

Nor did mainstream dem leaders embrace or introduce legislation concerning a Bush-9/11 connection. Olbermann, Maher and other lefty talking heads called the Truthers, Nutters. But ask the GOP leadership or any talking head at Fox today if there were death panels in the healthcare bill, or if obama was born in hawaii, or if Obama speaking to students would result in liberal indoctrination.

The levels of crazy, and the acceptance of the crazies by the mainstream in the party, are not really comparable.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...instream.php?ref=fpblg

In addition, respondents were asked whether each of the two most recent presidents are the Anti-Christ. For former President George W. Bush being the Anti-Christ: 8% yes, 81% no, 11% undecided, with a breakdown among Democrats of 14%-75%-11%. And whether President Obama is the Anti-Christ: 10% yes, 79% no, 11% undecided, with a split of 19%-67%-15% among Republicans.

As for the left, check out this question: "Do you think President Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?" The top-line response is 14% yes, 78% no, and 8% undecided. But among Democrats, it's a somewhat larger Truther contingent, at 25%-63%-12%.

Everyone thinks someone is the anti-christ because everyone always thinks the world is coming to an end. Yes there are to many republicans that are still going on about this birther non-sense but they havent made a movie about it yet. Everyone is just getting crazier and more partisan. Arguing that your party is less crazy is like winning the special Olympics.

Edit: yeah I was abit off on my numbers, but my point is the same.

And my point was the crazy on the right has been endorsed and encouraged by its leaders and most prominent voices. Truthers are seen as whackos by leaders on the left and its prominent voices.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: jonks
And my point was the crazy on the right has been endorsed and encouraged by its leaders and most prominent voices. Truthers are seen as whackos by leaders on the left and its prominent voices.

I think you're mistaking the word "crazy" for the word "stupid". Stupid knows no boundaries, left, right, independent, moderate, up, down, etc. and is in plentiful abundance all throughout.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
To be honest, I'm not sure Obama isn't the anti-christ. Can anyone be sure? I mean...isn't that the point of the anti-christ?

Though I'll admit that Cheney has a better chance of revealing himself as Beelzebub before Obama does.

The anti-christ is suppose to be a leader that unites the world and has all the answers making everyone happy before he turns on them .

If he is the anti-christ then he sucks at the job, he can't even unite congress !

 

[Elias824]

So the leaders on the left are not crazy, just the people who vote for them, thats way better. The OP was that 13% of the republicans belive that obama is the anti-christ, as soon as I disproove that you just say well ooooh thats ok though cause the leaders dont say that. Well yeah the democrats are not quite as stupid as the republicans in that regard, but there are at least a few people that in the republican party that denounce the birthers too.
http://www.africaresource.com/...asta-livewire-reports/

But like I said before, the crazy people are everywhere, its ashame to see it in the higher ups in the republican party, but no one is innocent here.

 

[Pens1566]

Reading is fundamental

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Elias824
So the leaders on the left are not crazy, just the people who vote for them, thats way better.

I'm trying to stay even handed in my rhetoric here, but what you said above is stupid. Yes, both sides have crazies, but you admit the leaders on the right adopt the crazy people's perspective and that the left did not, and you don't think that's better?

In other words, when politicians ignore the crazy people who vote them into office, that's not a superior position to take over listening and endorsing the ideas of the crazy people who voted you into office?

That's....crazy.

 

[Elias824]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Elias824
So the leaders on the left are not crazy, just the people who vote for them, thats way better.

I'm trying to stay even handed in my rhetoric here, but what you said above is stupid. Yes, both sides have crazies, but you admit the leaders on the right adopt the crazy people's perspective and that the left did not, and you don't think that's better?

In other words, when politicians ignore the crazy people who vote them into office, that's not a superior position to take over listening and endorsing the ideas of the crazy people who voted you into office?

That's....crazy.

Well there was a little of sarcasm in there, but the point is we still have crazy people every where, crazy people that vote. You cant say the democrats are completely innocent, they are still being elected by crazy people. The crazienss rampant everywhere and it needs to stop. I dont like anyone doing it at all. Obviously its not better to have the people in the party run around and quote this stuff, but the insanity in this country has gone to far and both sides still think that they are right.

 

[bfdd]

Wait I thought Mussolini, Hitler, Howard Stern, Larry Flynt, etc, etc, etc were the Anti-Christ. BTW the 13% number imo should shut some of you people up who constantly use the broad sweeping term of Republican to discredit someone. Not all Republicans or Democrats follow the party lead.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: bfdd
BTW the 13% number imo should shut some of you people up who constantly use the broad sweeping term of Republican to discredit someone.

well, in that poll 33% also didn't believe Obama was born in the US (i.e. is not legitimately the president) and when combined with those who "aren't sure" if he was born here, you get a majority of the party. So I think the party is doing quite well on it's own discrediting itself.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: zinfamous
To be honest, I'm not sure Obama isn't the anti-christ. Can anyone be sure? I mean...isn't that the point of the anti-christ?

Though I'll admit that Cheney has a better chance of revealing himself as Beelzebub before Obama does.

The anti-christ is suppose to be a leader that unites the world and has all the answers making everyone happy before he turns on them .

If he is the anti-christ then he sucks at the job, he can't even unite congress !

Not only that, Obama doesn't have enough experience to be an effective Antichrist. One of the biggest warning signs that someone is the antichrist is the fact that they preform miracles. Obama can't even get the unemployment rate under 9%, so it's safe to assume it isn't him. Doesn't anyone else read the Bible any more?

Actually. Most folks stopped doing that after they figured out that reading the Bible was interfering with their Bible-induced paranoia.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Lets say Obama was indeed the anti-christ. And he gave a speech and he sprouted horns, a tail, shot flames from his eyes.. etc. Would he still need the teleprompter?

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Lets say Obama was indeed the anti-christ. And he gave a speech and he sprouted horns, a tail, shot flames from his eyes.. etc. Would he still need the teleprompter?

Not if he was shooting fire out his eyes... It seems to me that the 13% forget about the rebuilding of the Temple. Seems to be the third most holy of Islamic place there that Dome of the Rock. Doubt you need looking for Anti-Christ until they at least get that bit going.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

The poll is stupid really. Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with looking out for a true Biblical antichrist probably suffers from a degree of nuttiness that will continue to exist no matter the tone of American politics. I have a hard time believing that some of those who answered yes truly believe that Obama is literally the embodiment of the Biblical antichrist. BUT i I can't say that the numbers surprise me.

My sisters mother and father-in-law are wacky envangelicals. I remember my sister telling me that back in the 90's they were seriously discussing the possibility that Clinton was the Antichrist. People really started to worry especially after he won reelection because that would allow him to be in power for at least seven years, which was an element of the Antichrist prophecies, or at least it was the way that they interpreted it.

If that were the case, it means all the people who believe this nonsense will have to vote for Obama in 2012 to make sure the prophecy is fulfilled.

It goes back to the "Messiah" meme propigated by the right during the election and to some extent still today. I think it's true that there are a small percentage of people who do believe that Obama is literally the anti-Christ, (wacky evengelicals) and I also think it's true that there are virtually no critical thinking people who believe that Obama is literally the Messiah". When they say, "The left thinks that Obama is the Messiah," what they actually mean is "the left thinks this guy is the smartest, most upstanding guy who ever lived, and they think he's going to get them everything they ever wanted." We all know this isn't true, but are there staunch Obama supporters out there who think this?. Yes.

Having said that, you could throw the shoe on the other foot and say "some" on the right thought Bush jr. was the Messiah in the same sense as Obama. Explain the full-size cardboard standup of George W. that the children of that church prayed over in the documentary Jesus Camp. Or the George Bush action figure. With flightsuit and codpiece. But it is ridiculous that actual sane Republicans actually in the literal sense "worshiped" Bush.

All political slogans are focus grouped. Nobody literally worships Obama. That's a fabrication of the right. It's sour grapes. The right would kill for a candidate with Obama's popularity.

It's a Rovian strategy that has been used in the past to some success. Essentially, you look for your opponent's strength, and then try to use that effectively against them.

Going up against a candidate that is an intelligent policy-maker? He's a dweeb, a wonk, a nerd, a smart-ass.

Going up against a candidate who was a war hero? He's a traitor, a coward, he faked his war experience.

Going up against a candidate who inspires people? He's worshiped by uncritical people, he thinks he's the Messiah.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: n yusef
You gotta admit; this poll is pretty embarrassing.

What's embarrassing is people who extrapole this into something it isn't.

"The extremism in New Jersey isn't limited to the right though. 19% of voters in the state, including 32% of Democrats, think that George W. Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11."

Stupidity abounds without regard for political ideology.

so... how does 32% of Democrats in a single state, think that George W. Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11; have anything to do with ideology? Your quoting ONE single state then stereotyping dems into an ideology issue that had nothing to do with the topic.

Oh well... Nice try I guess.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I don't seem him as the anti-christ... not that I believe in that sort of thing... But i do see him as empty suit idealist with no more plan than willy wonka had to keep the kids safe on the tour they won.



Obama is a worthless dork. People were pissed about what bush spent (including me) in the name of whatever....

Obama has quadrupled that against the promise to not put the debts of today on to future generations....


Good job! (insert infinite amounts of sarcasm here) The explaination must be fascinating...