13.5 Million to go... here we come /.

Train

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13,524,736 blocks to be exact.

we are on the home stretch.........

excluding todays big jump, it looks like November 9th is the day we pass /. lets shoot for the end of october! Assimilate!!

[Edit:] updated figures for todays stats [/edit]
 

ViRGE

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The best thrashing has yet to come.;)
 

Wolfie

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Wow.... seems like yesterday we where only 50 million left to go. Come on guys. Lets see if we can hit this before holloween!!!! MOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo Woooooooooooo!

Wolf
 

DanC

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Unfortunate that the DPC will do the same thing to us - and only THEN - will people get serious about assimilating. Unfortunately - by then, it will be too late. We are the quintessential Americans.... we're lazy, and we're being outperformed.

Secret mode .on
The DPC are going TO BEAT US!
Secret mode .off

That's kind of irritating isn't it?
 

Hydra

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<< The DPC are going TO BEAT US! >>



I'm not that sure. Somebody with a 386 @ 25 MHz (teamless) will probably find the key before we catch up with you :)
 

DanC

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Well... I've tried every way I know how to get people fired up.
Fact is, in this forum we're singing to the choir.
We have only about 50 active members in the Distribued Computing forum. Everyone is busting thier cookies to recruit, assimilate, build, etc.
These are the core - and those that make the huge volumes - but as one of our colleagues in the DPC aptly pointed out, this is not why they are creaming us daily.

It's all those &quot;little guys&quot; - scores of them. DPC have done a tremendous job managing, motivating and keeping people informed and cracking. This is where we have failed. Sure, we have massive cracking brute groups - but, that's not where the power really is.

We had 653 active (accounts) - since many are teams, it doesn't = &quot;persons&quot;
We have only about 50 active members of the forum. This means there are roughly 600 actively submitting blocks that we never hear from - never have a chance to motivate.

I had a discussion with Russ yesterday regarding contacting particularly the &quot;bottom&quot; 400 or so.
Not asking them to join a mini-team, asking them to join the forum and get active. We are in disagreement as to whether this is ok. I'm throwing it out to you guys. Anyone have any better ideas?

400 newly motivated people, getting one or two new ones = 400-800 new members. Do the math folks.
I submit to you that this is the answer.

 

Train

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Dan,
I have been thinking that for a while, but was never sure to go ahead and start contacting people, it could be spam, it could be rude, you never know how some people will react to being contced out of the blue like that. But the more i think abouot it, the more i say , screw it, lets send them emails and keep sending them until we see some serious growth. The kind of growth I know we are capable of.
 

DanC

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This is why I bring it to the forum. Some will disagree - but... IF, and that is still up in the air - we do this, It should come from very senior members - and be carefully drafted. Short, sweet, to the point, and nothing resembling spam.

If we do not contact our membership, then we lose... period. IMHO
 

Train

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alright, lets get it rolling, we will start a thread to get the draft going, and make sure it is signed by at least 5 of the Elite crackers.
 

DanC

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My initial suggestion would be: (open to discussion)
RaySun2Be
Engineer!
Russ
Virge
?
 

GT1999

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Everybody listens to Virge, Russ, etc. Russ got me started, as well as many of the newer crackers on the team. We need MORE CPU power!!
 

Dale

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<<Fact is, in this forum we're singing to the choir.>>

Fact is the 'choir' has left the building, and we are singing to the 'amen group'
(the me too people for those not from the south)

the last time we emailed , I think there were 2(two) that expressed displeasure at the email, about 3 starting cracking again, and another 4 or 5 responded with 'I stopped because'
(I could be off by 1 or 2, I think Geoff kept the returns, most of my email is at home)

the point I am trying to get across is while it is very easy to do this(send emails) most people stop for a reason and past efforts have shown this to be the case

DO NOT misunderstand I am not against it, let it fly it is only a click of the mouse and if it produce only 1, that is 1 more than none.

I am with you 100%, right or wrong we have to move forward..

I just feel we dont need to recruit from OT or GH or send email
you mentioned 50 active busting their cookies to recruit .??

if just half of them would ask their friends,neighbors,classmates,co-workers,enemies that would be 25 new members and that is 600% more than so far this month

well I am rambling, I will come back and edit most of that crap out

bottom line.. do it.. if we make a mistake, we will learn from it and go on

let me know what I can do to help..whatever

..Dale

 

DanC

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Again -
Let me reiterate (I guess thats rendundant huh)

I am not suggesting an rc5 recruiting mail. Just that the active crackers come take part in our forum. I cannot see any violation of policy in that. The fallout of course will be more members for all distributed computing projects, not just rc5.
 

Pretender

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That's not necesarily true...after hearing a little about rc5 from the other forums on AT, I got curious and decided to look in Distributed Computing. After my initial reaction of 'what a bunch of nerds..', I realized that calling you guys nerds is a hypocritical thing for me to do, and eventually all the talk of RC5 and my wanting to help the team eventually influenced me enough to join.

Sometimes the best action isn't hysterically telling everyone to join, but instead just exposing people to it, letting them know it exists, telling them what it's about, and let them make up their own mind.
 

Soccerman

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my my.. don't we have a dilemna..

to annoy or not to annoy?

the thing is, us 'core crackers' HAVE already implimented EVERYTHING we CAN DO. many people who visit the Anandtech BBS have multiple computers running.

I totally agree with the approach of e-mailing the least active people. at least see why they dropped out.

HOWEVER, we barely have ANY passive type reqruiting at all. on the front Anandtech page, we barely have a mention (ok, one advertisement, and one link). most people (including me) just SKIP advertisements. the rest probably barely see the rc5 link (that page is like dead anyway).

what we need are words from the people on Anandtech. any mentions they can give, would greatly increase our reqruitment rate..
 

RaySun2Be

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Danc,
I'll support you on this. Normally I would say let's work with DNET on this, but I HAVE tried to work with them, but they have been incredibly unresponsive to all emails that I have sent in the past month, and not just about this. I haven't even gotten an acknowledgement, let alone a reply to the questions I asked. Issues don't go away by ingoring them.

From a legal stance, from what I can tell, most anti-spam legislation deals with un-solicited emails with commercial intent. This does not fall into that category.

I'll support it if it:

1. Is short (don't let me write it ;))
2. Thanks the member for their contributions to the team.
3. Alerts them to the Forum, newsletter (opt-in), Team group email, Gamebox, Webbox, etc..

And states that it is a one-time email.

:)
 

Soccerman

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short as in what I wrote to firingsquad and Startrek.com, or even shorter? take a look at my thread with on of the e-mails I made for them here

I pretty much agree to those 3 terms..
 

mechBgon

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I realize I am likely to generate more heat than light by posting my position on the issue of emailing people, but it seems to be a recurring and important issue:

Recurring, because it is something we all would like to do. I would personally write original, helpful emails to newbies and inactive members whom I found on Dnet's stats, if it were allowed... it would be a good way to get them over here to the Forum, and from there on, if we of the Forum can't solve their occasional problems and keep them interested, well, they're not going to stay anyway. Am I right?

Important, because Distributed.net has answered this question with &quot;no.&quot; It's their contest. Follow Moose's link from his post at the end of this thread and you can see how Distributed.net will view things if TA RC5 follows through with this.

It will not be the end of the world if TA is #2 again someday, IMHO. If D.net regards the email plan as breaking the rules, I'd rather be #2 with a clean conscience. I will not countenance the email plan, and I hope those in favor of it will consider carefully how their actions may affect the other 600+ active and 2000+ overall members of the Team, not the least of whom is Anand Lai Shimpi.

TA SETI, if we get suspended or banned, you will have my little fleet joining the TA Armada... ; )