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T9D

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Choosing your own clothes is all a part of growing up that I think all kids should have the right to do. It's part of their personality and how they express themselves. It's important to them to have their own individuality.

There are a lot of clothes I dont like or would wear but hey that's their thing. If it gets to outrageous I can understand. And parents should also be the ones keeping tabs on what they are wearing too.

It always seems to be the women principals that make these rules or enforce them. Dont know why this is. I remember we got a new woman principal and she went crazy with dress code junk. All it did was make kids feel repressed and hassled. And that's never good. She wouldn't even let anyone wear a hat in class. You had to take it off. That's total crap. And sometimes a hat is for fasion and a look, not for funtionality or sometimes it has a different funtion. Who does it hurt to have a hat on in class? No one (unless it's a really tall one and no one can see). For me a lot of times I didn't want to mess with my hair. I think thats good for a kid to just not have to worry about their hair and just go through to day without that stress. Then you have some lame teacher make you take it off. So now your hair is a total mess and you have to deal with feeling inadequate. And for a teenager that's the worst thing ever. Good luck getting them to consentrate.

I think it's more important for a teenager to feel good about themselves and who they are and not feel inadequate than have some lame dress code (with in reason of course).
 

AznAnarchy99

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Originally posted by: tk109
Choosing your own clothes is all a part of growing up that I think all kids should have the right to do. It's part of their personality and how they express themselves. It's important to them to have their own individuality.

There are a lot of clothes I dont like or would wear but hey that's their thing. If it gets to outrageous I can understand. And parents should also be the ones keeping tabs on what they are wearing too.

It always seems to be the women principals that make these rules or enforce them. Dont know why this is. I remember we got a new woman principal and she went crazy with dress code junk. All it did was make kids feel repressed and hassled. And that's never good. She wouldn't even let anyone wear a hat in class. You had to take it off. That's total crap. And sometimes a hat is for fasion and a look, not for funtionality or sometimes it has a different funtion. Who does it hurt to have a hat on in class? No one (unless it's a really tall one and no one can see). For me a lot of times I didn't want to mess with my hair. I think thats good for a kid to just not have to worry about their hair and just go through to day without that stress. Then you have some lame teacher make you take it off. So now your hair is a total mess and you have to deal with feeling inadequate. And for a teenager that's the worst thing ever. Good luck getting them to consentrate.

I think it's more important for a teenager to feel good about themselves and who they are and not feel inadequate than have some lame dress code (with in reason of course).

High school is the time when you are growing up with more responsiblility and choices, but with the administration trying to hold you back for every second possible until you graduate.

LoL my teacher told me that. She hates the rules of my school because its the same rules that this principal took from her middle school that she came from.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: tk109
It always seems to be the women principals that make these rules or enforce them. Dont know why this is. I remember we got a new woman principal and she went crazy with dress code junk. All it did was make kids feel repressed and hassled. And that's never good. She wouldn't even let anyone wear a hat in class. You had to take it off. That's total crap. And sometimes a hat is for fasion and a look, not for funtionality or sometimes it has a different funtion. Who does it hurt to have a hat on in class? No one (unless it's a really tall one and no one can see). For me a lot of times I didn't want to mess with my hair. I think thats good for a kid to just not have to worry about their hair and just go through to day without that stress. Then you have some lame teacher make you take it off. So now your hair is a total mess and you have to deal with feeling inadequate. And for a teenager that's the worst thing ever. Good luck getting them to consentrate.


Not being able to wear a hat inside a building! Oh noes!

I hate to break it to you, but up until this generation, it was/is considered disrespectful to wear a hat inside a building.
 

DaiShan

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I agree with the principal. There is nothing wrong with dress codes, I went to private school until college, and we had a somewhat strict dress code (no uniforms though) and we managed to get by just fine. I really don't understand the arguments against it...
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
i have no problem with my schools dress code except for 2 things..

I have to tuck in my shirt (i would agree to this if i was forced to wear slacks)
and solid colored shirts are not allowed (wtf? its not like theres a pink t shirt gang)

dude, pink t shirt gang would be awesome
 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Horus
Who gives a crap. I went to a school right in the downtown. Girls dressed like whores, guys dressed like thugs. I think the only rule was no bandannas.

People that were there to learn, did. Those that were there to stare and jack off, did.

Schools shouldn't force you to learn. That's what the real world's for.

I disagree. Schools should force you to learn....that's what school's for.

You really cant force someone to do anything. You can tell them to sit there and listen but if they dont want to they can just day dream off

Hey, they pay for schools with my property taxes, even if I don't have kids, to provide schools for teenage thugs and whores. So forget what the kids want (until they turn 18, their opinion doesn't count), we should do WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM and ultimately for our country, which is stack all the odds in favor of them learning how to read and write so they won't fvcking rob me in 5 years (thugs) or produce 20 bastard children all supported by the government (whores).

You must be 18 or younger, or you would realize that the bankrupt public schools are one of the main reasons that this country has grown dumber in comparison with the rest of the world over the past couple decades.
 

Babbles

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I support this principal 100% - I think more schools need to enforce standards on kids.

Originally posted by: tk109
Choosing your own clothes is all a part of growing up that I think all kids should have the right to do. It's part of their personality and how they express themselves. It's important to them to have their own individuality.

There are a lot of clothes I dont like or would wear but hey that's their thing. If it gets to outrageous I can understand. And parents should also be the ones keeping tabs on what they are wearing too.

It always seems to be the women principals that make these rules or enforce them. Dont know why this is. I remember we got a new woman principal and she went crazy with dress code junk. All it did was make kids feel repressed and hassled. And that's never good. She wouldn't even let anyone wear a hat in class. You had to take it off. That's total crap. And sometimes a hat is for fasion and a look, not for funtionality or sometimes it has a different funtion. Who does it hurt to have a hat on in class? No one (unless it's a really tall one and no one can see). For me a lot of times I didn't want to mess with my hair. I think thats good for a kid to just not have to worry about their hair and just go through to day without that stress. Then you have some lame teacher make you take it off. So now your hair is a total mess and you have to deal with feeling inadequate. And for a teenager that's the worst thing ever. Good luck getting them to consentrate.

I think it's more important for a teenager to feel good about themselves and who they are and not feel inadequate than have some lame dress code (with in reason of course).

Are you a kid in high school? I can't think of any logical adult that would remotely agree with what you said.

Moaning about wearing a hat inside? Good lord, what a douche.

Additionally if a kid has to wear a certain type of clothes to express their individuality, then chances are they have no individuality at all. There are a whole hell of a lot of a ways for kids to express themselves without relying on their blasted clothes.

One of these days the real world is going to be a big shocker for you.
 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: tk109
Choosing your own clothes is all a part of growing up that I think all kids should have the right to do. It's part of their personality and how they express themselves. It's important to them to have their own individuality.

There are a lot of clothes I dont like or would wear but hey that's their thing. If it gets to outrageous I can understand. And parents should also be the ones keeping tabs on what they are wearing too.

It always seems to be the women principals that make these rules or enforce them. Dont know why this is. I remember we got a new woman principal and she went crazy with dress code junk. All it did was make kids feel repressed and hassled. And that's never good. She wouldn't even let anyone wear a hat in class. You had to take it off. That's total crap. And sometimes a hat is for fasion and a look, not for funtionality or sometimes it has a different funtion. Who does it hurt to have a hat on in class? No one (unless it's a really tall one and no one can see). For me a lot of times I didn't want to mess with my hair. I think thats good for a kid to just not have to worry about their hair and just go through to day without that stress. Then you have some lame teacher make you take it off. So now your hair is a total mess and you have to deal with feeling inadequate. And for a teenager that's the worst thing ever. Good luck getting them to consentrate.

I think it's more important for a teenager to feel good about themselves and who they are and not feel inadequate than have some lame dress code (with in reason of course).

Maybe if you'd been forced to wear a uniform, you'd be able to "consentrate".

And all that "its more important for a teenager to feel good about themselves" crap is the reason our public schools are an embarrasment and our kids are unable to function in the real world. Nobody gives a sh*t "how you feel" or "how your hair looks" after you turn 18. You're talking about the Candyland modern teenagers THINK exists, and I'm talking about reality. Either we prepare you for it, or we spend the rest of OUR working lives supporting your worthless ass, providing you with a prison cell, or supporting your illegitimate children.

Plus, with not all kids able to afford college, we should make sure our primary schools are as worthwhile as possible...it might be all that some of them ever get.
 

Amused

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There is nothing wrong with dress codes. You're going to have them when you get a job, why not get used to them in school?

 

Brutuskend

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When I was in High School I was kicked out because I wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts. Well at least that's the EXCUSE they used. That and the fact that my hair was too long.

Funny thing was, most EVERYONE wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts and compared to MANY other kids there, my hair wasn't even THAT long.

I wore what I wore because that's what I could AFFORD to wear. Of course back then jeans didn't cost up wards of $100. The REAL reason I was kicked out was because I got in a fight with one of the "in crowd" of which I was NOT a part.


What was the fight about? Long story, but suffice to say he claimed he had a legitimate beef and I had no proof he DIDN'T.

When I went back for my 20th reunion, I FINALLY found out that I was RIGHT and he DIDN'T have a beef. (At least not one he didn't bring on himself.)

So after I left THAT public school, guess what? Catholic School, where there WAS a dress code. But you know what? I survived....
 

Kevin1211

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Originally posted by: Amused
There is nothing wrong with dress codes. You're going to have them when you get a job, why not get used to them in school?

then how come there's not dress code in college? isnt college even more for you to get used to the "real world"?
 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
When I was in High School I was kicked out because I wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts. Well at least that's the EXCUSE they used. That and the fact that my hair was too long.

Funny thing was, most EVERYONE wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts and compared to MANY other kids there, my hair wasn't even THAT long.

I wore what I wore because that's what I could AFFORD to wear. Of course back then jeans didn't cost up wards of $100. The REAL reason I was kicked out was because I got in a fight with one of the "in crowd" of which I was NOT a part.


What was the fight about? Long story, but suffice to say he claimed he had a legitimate beef and I had no proof he DIDN'T.

When I went back for my 20th reunion, I FINALLY found out that I was RIGHT and he DIDN'T have a beef. (At least not one he didn't bring on himself.)

So after I left THAT public school, guess what? Catholic School, where there WAS a dress code. But you know what? I survived....

So does that make you for or against dress codes?

And...what was the imaginary BEEF? :)
 
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Shouldn't school prepare you for life? Expressing yourself and even your sexuality through clothes is a pivitol part of your existence. I wish I didn't have a uniform in elementary school - I had no sense of fashion growing up. When you're in a job interview or a club - which is more important? Knowing your times table or knowing how to dress?
 

darkxshade

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I still don't get what sending kids home will achieve, if you really wanna punish em, make em come in to School on Saturdays instead.
 
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Originally posted by: ImYourFriend
dress codes are b-s

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Eddie Byrd,

Considering how many times we have banned you under other names, YOU are more BS than any dress code.

Eddie Byrd
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Charlotte, North Carolina 28215
(704) 569-7975

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Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: Kevin1211
Originally posted by: Amused
There is nothing wrong with dress codes. You're going to have them when you get a job, why not get used to them in school?

then how come there's not dress code in college? isnt college even more for you to get used to the "real world"?

While I agree that college is NOTHING like the real world, there three important differences:

1. You personally PAY for college, rather than using taxes largely taken from responsible, employed, home-owning adults who may or may not kids.

2. College is not compulsory. You don't have to go if you don't want to.

3. College students are over 18. So if they're taxed, drafted, and otherwise treated like adults, then they get to choose how ridiculous they look.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: ImYourFriend
dress codes are b-s

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Eddie Byrd,

Considering how many times we have banned you under other names, YOU are more BS than any dress code.

Eddie Byrd
4903 Endolwood Dr Apt C
Charlotte, North Carolina 28215
(704) 569-7975

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Sweet, I don't need to counter with any common sense.

But it is about the institutions need for discipline. PERIOD.

And this comes from the guy who lead the dress code revolt in my school in 1969.

Yeah...... Girls coouldn't wear pants, and guys couldn't wear shorts.
But then we weren't packin' heat or slangin' weed in the halls either....

 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Shouldn't school prepare you for life? Expressing yourself and even your sexuality through clothes is a pivitol part of your existence. I wish I didn't have a uniform in elementary school - I had no sense of fashion growing up. When you're in a job interview or a club - which is more important? Knowing your times table or knowing how to dress?
The fact is that people make judgements about you on a variety of visual clues, not the least of them is dress.
A person is said to make the decision to trust within a tenth of second upon first contact.

Beside, the saggin' look has it's roots in thuggery and gang behaviors. They take one's belt and shoelaces when one is booked into jail. That the "style" is based in criminal emulation is reason enough to prohibit it.

 
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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Shouldn't school prepare you for life? Expressing yourself and even your sexuality through clothes is a pivitol part of your existence. I wish I didn't have a uniform in elementary school - I had no sense of fashion growing up. When you're in a job interview or a club - which is more important? Knowing your times table or knowing how to dress?
The fact is that people make judgements about you on a variety of visual clues, not the least of them is dress.
A person is said to make the decision to trust within a tenth of second upon first contact.

Beside, the saggin' look has it's roots in thuggery and gang behaviors. They take one's belt and shoelaces when one is booked into jail. That the "style" is based in criminal emulation is reason enough to prohibit it.

Look at this as a sociologist. The people who dress like thugs will eventually end up learning through failure - they didn't get that job or that girl because of their personal style. They can either chose to evolve and dress more appropriately, or continue being a failure. But getting it out of your system when you're young will help you grow - let's even look at "thug rappers" now - Jay Z now wears designer suits and looks quite respectable. His style evolved and the kids who dress like dirtbags will evolve too. The girl with the low cut shirt will be treated like crap and used, of course she will, but learning through error is important. If she was forced to wear uniforms throughout high school chances are she'll leave high school with the desire to tramp it up in college, slowing down her personal evolution. Besides, how many baggy pants wearing white boys do you know that grew up to be criminals? It's fashion - a phase. All the ones I knew in highschool are now stockbrokers..
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Shouldn't school prepare you for life? Expressing yourself and even your sexuality through clothes is a pivitol part of your existence. I wish I didn't have a uniform in elementary school - I had no sense of fashion growing up. When you're in a job interview or a club - which is more important? Knowing your times table or knowing how to dress?

Yeah man, I wear stone washed jeans with tight-rolled cuffs, slap bracelets and a muembers only jacket just like in elementary school.

You can wear clothes to "express yourself" outside of school, just like in later life you can wear those clothes outside of work. I think it's more important to prepare kids for a work environment than for the clubs, but that's just one man's opinion.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
just have uniform, private school shouldn't have all the fun....

catholic school girl uniforms are so hot....

<---- catholic gradeschool and HS :D:D:D

anyway, sometimes people go a little too hardcore with the dresscode. my HS started saying you could only wear certain types of jackets, no jackets on in class, and other retarded things. most teachers didn't care though
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
When I was in High School I was kicked out because I wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts. Well at least that's the EXCUSE they used. That and the fact that my hair was too long.

Funny thing was, most EVERYONE wore Blue Jeans and "T" shirts and compared to MANY other kids there, my hair wasn't even THAT long.

I wore what I wore because that's what I could AFFORD to wear. Of course back then jeans didn't cost up wards of $100. The REAL reason I was kicked out was because I got in a fight with one of the "in crowd" of which I was NOT a part.


What was the fight about? Long story, but suffice to say he claimed he had a legitimate beef and I had no proof he DIDN'T.

When I went back for my 20th reunion, I FINALLY found out that I was RIGHT and he DIDN'T have a beef. (At least not one he didn't bring on himself.)

So after I left THAT public school, guess what? Catholic School, where there WAS a dress code. But you know what? I survived....

So does that make you for or against dress codes?

And...what was the imaginary BEEF? :)

I was out driving with a bunch of friend late at night and someone started chasing me, I got to town and ran through a stop sign. A cop (who I knew) pulled me over and asked what I was doing, I told him someone was chasing me. About that time another car came around the corner and I told the cop that HE must have been the person chasing me. He was pulled over and, guess what? They found beer in his car. The cop let me go and busted him. Daddy took away his car. Next day at school he SWORE it wasn't him chasing me, got all pissed off (after his friends fired him up...) and wanted to fight after school. Since I didn't know for certain it WAS him that was chasing me, in which case he MAY have had a legitimate beef, I told him that if it would make him feel better, that I would meet him after school.....20 years later he finally admitted it WAS him.

I KNEW IT!!! ;)

BTW: This was the FIRST fight I was ever in where I threw the first punch. And by the time it got broken up, I was KICKING HIS ASS. :)