120 hertz, hurts

Cheesemoo

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I have had an HD tv for a few years now, Just saw a 120 hertz tv for the first time in person while visiting family. I have to say 120 hertz is crap. Feel s liek I am watching a home video camera. the movement sucks. way way too fast. everything looks horrible.

Not sure if its just me, but my wife agrees with me, wondering what everyone here thinks.

I guess I will have to go out and get a couple older tvs before the only thing you can get is 120htz.


Discuss.....
 

vi edit

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That's not the 120hz. That's likey some sort of motion compensation (AMP, ect).

Turn that off and get back to us.
 

Cheesemoo

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Thanks, I hope that is it. I will check lnext time we are over there.

What ever it is i couldnt watch my father in laws new Sony. Had to switch rooms to his older mitsubishi dlp.
 

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Turn that off and get back to us.
Unless he has a 24hz source (which basically means a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player), he'll probably notice zero difference without AMP.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: vi edit
Turn that off and get back to us.
Unless he has a 24hz source (which basically means a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player), he'll probably notice zero difference without AMP.

Not true.

I can reproduce the "soap opera" effect on many primetime HD OTA broadcasts using AMP on my Samsung A650.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: vi edit
Turn that off and get back to us.
Unless he has a 24hz source (which basically means a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player), he'll probably notice zero difference without AMP.

Not true.

I can reproduce the "soap opera" effect on many primetime HD OTA broadcasts using AMP on my Samsung A650.

He's saying with AMP off 120Hz has no effect on normal sources. It will only benefit 24fps sources like blu-ray. This is true.
 

vi edit

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Well I can certainly tell you that turning AMP on several HD OTA programs definitely adds some additional processing to the picture that I find unnatural and unpleasant.

It doesn't show up in sports events or many "live" filmed things. But for drama shows like CSI, Grays Anatomy, ect it does give the show that soap opera feel.

It's not as night and day as with a Blu Ray movie, but it's most definitely present.
 

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Well I can certainly tell you that turning AMP on several HD OTA programs definitely adds some additional processing to the picture that I find unnatural and unpleasant.

It doesn't show up in sports events or many "live" filmed things. But for drama shows like CSI, Grays Anatomy, ect it does give the show that soap opera feel.

It's not as night and day as with a Blu Ray movie, but it's most definitely present.

I don't think anybody is denying that AMP will add the soap opera feel to all material...:confused:
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy

I don't think anybody is denying that AMP will add the soap opera feel to all material...:confused:

He said that he what he watched looked like it was shot with a home camera. That's what AMP/Automotion/MotionFlo whatever a brand wants to call it does to many shows/movies. Not necessarily 120hz.

You still can have 120hz running without having that tech enabled (or so a couple hundred posts on AVS say).

I'm simply saying that he's confusing the two and likely seeing the effects of the motion smoothing tech.
 

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: vi edit
Turn that off and get back to us.
Unless he has a 24hz source (which basically means a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player), he'll probably notice zero difference without AMP.

Not true.

I can reproduce the "soap opera" effect on many primetime HD OTA broadcasts using AMP on my Samsung A650.

I think everyone in this thread is in agreement.

vi edit, erwos said that WITHOUT AMP turned on, he wouldn't notice a difference with anything other than 24hz source.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: PurdueRy

I don't think anybody is denying that AMP will add the soap opera feel to all material...:confused:

He said that he what he watched looked like it was shot with a home camera. That's what AMP/Automotion/MotionFlo whatever a brand wants to call it does to many shows/movies. Not necessarily 120hz.

You still can have 120hz running without having that tech enabled (or so a couple hundred posts on AVS say).

I'm simply saying that he's confusing the two and likely seeing the effects of the motion smoothing tech.

Right which is what erwos was saying. He said that a source other than one that is 24fps will not benefit from 120Hz unless that person happens to like also turning on AMP.

All I was trying to say is that erwos is correct, 120Hz will be of no benefit unless someone either

a. Likes also using the AMP feature

b. Has 24Hz sources

We're all in agreement :)
 

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
LOL at the failure of the English language in this thread :)

It's amazing what one word does for an interpretation of a post.

:eek:
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Tiamat
LOL at the failure of the English language in this thread :)

It's amazing what one word does for an interpretation of a post.

:eek:

Multiple "negatives" in a sentence is bound to cause problems with this language, unless reading very carefully. :)