12.9" iPad Pro with 2732x2048 screen is "confirmed"

[Eug]

https://www.appsee.com/blog/technology/the-ipad-pro-is-real-and-its-size-is-2048x2732

iPad6,8

If this turns out to be true, I wonder if appsee will get a stern talking to. They're releasing info based on collected data from their software.

BTW, I won't be buying. I kind of like the 10" size for my iPad Air 2. The iPad mini 4 is a bit too small for my preference, and 12"+ size is something I'll reserve for a Retina MacBook.

I'm guessing it will come with an A9X, and maybe they'll keep the iPad Air 2 around with the A8X, while the A9 goes into the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 6s plus.

 

[dagamer34]

One thing I don't understand is I don't see how delaying an update to the iPad Air 2 just to push the iPad Pro is supposed to increase sales of all iPad products overall in future quarters. Some people absolutely do not want or need a tablet larger than the current iPad Air 2. And the lack of a CPU update in the iPad Mini certainly didn't have positive results (charging $100 more for Touch ID is pretty atrocious).

The success of the iPad Pro will come down to any new APIs they give developers to build better apps, otherwise, it's just a large iPad.

 

[DarkRipper]

I wish they'd update the Mini's specs to be more in line with the larger model, I prefer the smaller form factor.

 

[TheStu]

I wish they'd update the Mini's specs to be more in line with the larger model, I prefer the smaller form factor.

I'm hoping that the iPad Mini 4 gets brought up to parity with the iPad Air 3. I don't use my Mini a whole lot currently because of how sluggish it is.

 

[Eug]

One thing I don't understand is I don't see how delaying an update to the iPad Air 2 just to push the iPad Pro is supposed to increase sales of all iPad products overall in future quarters. Some people absolutely do not want or need a tablet larger than the current iPad Air 2. And the lack of a CPU update in the iPad Mini certainly didn't have positive results (charging $100 more for Touch ID is pretty atrocious).

The success of the iPad Pro will come down to any new APIs they give developers to build better apps, otherwise, it's just a large iPad.

I wish they'd update the Mini's specs to be more in line with the larger model, I prefer the smaller form factor.

I'm thinking the reason why Apple might delay the iPad Air 2 update is because the iPad mini needs to catch up.

I suspect the iPad mini 3 wasn't originally intended to be as lame as it is. They may have had constraints with A8 volume, so they decided instead to make it an A7 to keep the A8 chips for the iPhones (which were seeing excellent sales). Or maybe the mini 3 was supposed to have A8X too, just A8X yields were too low.

However, if they really do release the iPad Pro with an A9X, then again we'll still have a mismatch. OTOH, the iPad Pro would actually need it, because of the much higher resolution.

The rumoured iPad Pro is 2732 x 2048 = 5.6 million pixels
The iPad Air 2 and the iPad mini 3 are 2048 x 1536 =

million pixels

That means the iPad Pro has 78% more pixels.

 

[Rakehellion]

Does "Pro" mean an Intel Core CPU? If so, then this is a maybe.

 

[Eug]

Does "Pro" mean an Intel Core CPU? If so, then this is a maybe.

Extremely unlikely.

BTW, the iPad Pro aka iPad 6,8 had iOS 9.1 on it. That makes an October launch likely, in line with previous iPad releases.

The iPhone 6s and 6s plus would come out in September, with iOS 9.0.

 

[mmntech]

BTW, I won't be buying. I kind of like the 10" size for my iPad Air 2. The iPad mini 4 is a bit too small for my preference, and 12"+ size is something I'll reserve for a Retina MacBook.

I agree. 10'' has always been my perfect tablet size.

I really don't see the point of a 12'' iPad running iOS. At least not iOS in its current form. If I'm going to go for a 'pro' tablet with a screen that large, I'd rather have something like the Surface Pro. Something that is capable of running professional apps.

Unfortunately OS X doesn't offer touch support.

 

[Thanatosis]

Apple should put something fast in it to run that resolution. The extra surface area should allow for better heat dissipation and higher boost frequencies so there is no excuse for it to be slower than any other iOS device. This is going to be the new Halo sku for iOS.


Expect prices that make you cringe.

 

[StinkyPinky]

There seems little market for this. At that size you may as well get a Surface Pro which runs a fully fledged OS with multi-tasking and all the professional level apps like Office, Photoshop etc etc.

IMO, Apple need to do what MS is doing and merge IOS and OSX as at the moment they are quite different. One platform across all devices please.

 

[Kadarin]

I got used to my Mini 3 (which I got for free through my work), so I think it's size and form factor are great for me. Hard to imagine using a Pro, but maybe if I used my iPad as more of a gaming platform it would be cool.

 

[Rakehellion]

2732x2048

What's with all these weird ass resolutions lately? Come on, Apple.

 

[jpiniero]

There seems little market for this. At that size you may as well get a Surface Pro which runs a fully fledged OS with multi-tasking and all the professional level apps like Office, Photoshop etc etc.

IMO, Apple need to do what MS is doing and merge IOS and OSX as at the moment they are quite different. One platform across all devices please.

Using a desktop OS on a tablet has to be a nightmare. There's a reason Apple has shied away from releasing a 12" tablet until the iPad Pro. It's been rumored for some time now and I imagine Apple has held it back to make sure the timing was right. I do think Apple is going to merge OSX into iOS but they have to get the iOS interface to work better on a bigger screen while still being tablet friendly. Plus there's the whole dumping Intel part.

 

[jpiniero]

What's with all these weird ass resolutions lately? Come on, Apple.

Still 4:3. It's 1366x1024 doubled compared to the Air 2 which is 1024x768 doubled.

 

[Rakehellion]

I'm betting it has Core M.

 

[Rakehellion]

Still 4:3. It's 1366x1024 doubled compared to the Air 2 which is 1024x768 doubled.

1366x1024 is a weird ass resolution and not quite 3:4. That's 683x512 doubled. 683 is a friggin prime number.

 

[jpiniero]

I'm betting it has Core M.

It's definitely A9(X). The chip is rumored to be fabbed exclusively by TSMC unlike the 6S/+ which is being also fabbed by Samsung and GloFo.

 

[Eug]

1366x1024 is a weird ass resolution and not quite 3:4. That's 683x512 doubled. 683 is a friggin prime number.

A) 1366 /1024 is 1.334.
4/3 is 1.333.

B) 1366 is a commonly used resolution. Lots of monitors and laptops are 1366 x 768.

 

[mmntech]

If you've ever measured an iPad's display, it's actually not quite 4:3. The dimensions of the screen are 197mm x 148mm. Giving us an aspect ratio of 1.331.

So the iPad is slightly more square than a standard 4:3 display. I don't know what the reasoning behind this is. Same rules will apply to the Pro, except it's slightly wider than 4:3.

 

[JAG87]

It's definitely A9(X). The chip is rumored to be fabbed exclusively by TSMC unlike the 6S/+ which is being also fabbed by Samsung and GloFo.

I would be utterly shocked if they put out an ARM device that runs iOS.

Unless they worked on a titanic port of OSX to ARM (which is entirely possible, it's just about time for Apple to drop a bomb like this), this will almost certainly be an Intel x86 device, probably Core M, that runs a touch optimized version of OSX. It is the only thing missing from Apple's fleet, almost all manufacturers have some kind of touch-screen based x86 machine, Apple does not. It will be Apple's attempt at capturing the market of the Surface, the Yoga, the Transformer, all those people who are torn between saving money with a iPad or spending more for a MacBook, and it will have that price point of 700-900. And if they tweaked OSX in the right ways to make it touch-friendly, it will blow them away as Apple's UI is 10x more suited than Windows for touch screens.

Anyway that's my prediction, I could be completely wrong, but if I was running with this project I would not develop an iOS-based bigger iPad. iOS is just not there yet in terms of applications, there is nothing "Pro" about iOS. And there is nothing appealing about a 12" iOS device that costs almost a grand.

On the other hand, a 1.5 pound 12" touch screen device with USB-C that can run OSX and all associated apps.... fcuk yea. I'd have demonic thoughts about dumping my MBP for that.

 

[DarkRipper]

I'm hoping that the iPad Mini 4 gets brought up to parity with the iPad Air 3. I don't use my Mini a whole lot currently because of how sluggish it is.

I totally agree. I have three Minis, one first gen (awful) and two newer ones (2 and 3) and they're all sluggish vs my wife's iPad Air 2.

It's very frustrating since I can't stand the 10" size...

I will probably sell all three of my old ones to buy a 4, especially if it's using a faster chipset.

 

[mmntech]

I would be utterly shocked if they put out an ARM device that runs iOS.

Unless they worked on a titanic port of OSX to ARM (which is entirely possible, it's just about time for Apple to drop a bomb like this), this will almost certainly be an Intel x86 device, probably Core M, that runs a touch optimized version of OSX.

While Apple is pretty secretive about future projects, you can usually find some hints while digging through code in beta operating systems. There's just no mention of an iPad Pro or touch features anywhere in OS X El Capitan.

All information we have about the Pro is from research firm AppSee (linked in OP), who claim to have discovered an iPad 6,8 with a resolution of 2732x2048 running iOS 9.1.


It's been all but confirmed now that the Pro will indeed run iOS with an Apple AXX processor. This is likely why split screen multitasking was added to iOS 9.

Here's everything MacRumours knows about the Pro.
http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-pro/

I do agree though that an Macintosh laplet running OS X would be ideal. Apple has been pretty staunch in their derision of such devices. So I wouldn't expect one anytime soon.

One rumour I do like is the addition of a USB Type-C port. Either for peripherals or charging. Lightning needs to be grounded in favour of one charging standard to rule them all.

 

[JAG87]

While Apple is pretty secretive about future projects, you can usually find some hints while digging through code in beta operating systems. There's just no mention of an iPad Pro or touch features anywhere in OS X El Capitan.

All information we have about the Pro is from research firm AppSee (linked in OP), who claim to have discovered an iPad 6,8 with a resolution of 2732x2048 running iOS 9.1.


It's been all but confirmed now that the Pro will indeed run iOS with an Apple AXX processor. This is likely why split screen multitasking was added to iOS 9.

Here's everything MacRumours knows about the Pro.
http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-pro/

I do agree though that an Macintosh laplet running OS X would be ideal. Apple has been pretty staunch in their derision of such devices. So I wouldn't expect one anytime soon.

One rumour I do like is the addition of a USB Type-C port. Either for peripherals or charging. Lightning needs to be grounded in favour of one charging standard to rule them all.

The OSX version that could run on the iPad Pro may be a completely separate build from El Capitan, whether it's x86 or ARM. And what is reported in the OP might also just be a new Air or new mini, or god knows what, there is no mention of size just a model identifier and a resolution.

But yea, I'm just speculating in the direction I would like to see. I have no interest in another iOS device, especially not a 12" one.

 

[mmntech]

I'm sure if they were building a spinoff OS, there's be evidence of it somewhere. We knew about iOS before it was first unveiled, since it was the reason OS X Leopard got delayed.

In my ideal world, this is what Apple's lineup would look like:
-MacBook Core M gets moved down to the entry level tier, where it belongs.
-MacBook Air gets replaced with the iPad Pro. It becomes the new midrange offering. Features similar internals to the Air but with a laplet form factor. Runs a touch centric version of OS X.
-MacBook Pro continues to head up the high end.

Going to happen? No, but I sure would love a non-Windows alternative to the Surface Pro. Surface is a great product and all but Windows 10 is rattling my jimmies.

 

[jpiniero]

Anyway that's my prediction, I could be completely wrong, but if I was running with this project I would not develop an iOS-based bigger iPad. iOS is just not there yet in terms of applications, there is nothing "Pro" about iOS. And there is nothing appealing about a 12" iOS device that costs almost a grand.

I think what happened was that iPad sales are slowing because people are buying the 6+ and the difference in size isn't enough between the 6+ and the Air to be enticing. So bigger it is. Apple's already proven that a desktop OS makes zero sense on a tablet. You need an interface designed specifically for the tablet, not the mismash that is Windows 8/10. Getting third parties to create some more iOS content creation apps might also be part of the reason it's taken so long to get this out.