11 Year Old Punk Bragging About His Arsenal and Using it to Kill People

fskimospy

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Publicizing a perp walk of an 11 year old is pretty horrendous. What is wrong with these people.

I'm all for a vigorous law enforcement response to threats of mass violence and am totally on board with arresting this kid but parading a child around for the cameras is fucked up. Let's see the parents' photos though, absolutely.
 

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The sheriff said last Friday that beginning Monday, they will begin coming after the parents of any juveniles threatening school shootings online.

“And starting Monday, your little cherub? We’re going to start publishing his face and doing perp walks with him when we take him into custody, and then we’re going to show pictures of you, the parents. Because you don’t want to raise your kid, Sheriff Chitwood is going to raise them,” he said in the video. “Parents, get your kids in line, or your checkbook’s gonna hurt and your pride’s gonna hurt. I promise.”


The parent part sounds good to me. I mean, look at the photos of the weapons. I know the guns are airsoft, but still, they look real. Why would parents allow all of that.

The kid part might be feasible as well but perhaps with the face blurred.


 
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Jaskalas

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Saw this on a feed earlier.
Got me thinking, what IS the proper response to a child making a terrorist threat?
At some point they become old enough to follow through and make good on that promise.
So then, what do we do with them?

I saw arguments that this sort of scare tactic is not effective when the kid's behavior is already this far gone. But I am sure it's not zero percent effective..... Still, it bothers me to know it would only scare off those who were not serious. We need a methodology, an in-depth psyche eval to help determine the risk - and the necessary program that could lead to actual rehab.

It is the sort of thing. If we are too soft, what do other nations do, what are their solutions to child and teenage crimes? Thinking of the extreme opposite of us, Russia and China for example. Perhaps from their methods, we could find a middle ground that respects human rights and dignity, without flat out ignoring the problem until after a gun is used.
 

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Publicizing a perp walk of an 11 year old is pretty horrendous. What is wrong with these people.

I'm all for a vigorous law enforcement response to threats of mass violence and am totally on board with arresting this kid but parading a child around for the cameras is fucked up. Let's see the parents' photos though, absolutely.
Perp walks in general are very masturbatorial. They should be illegal.
 

Jaskalas

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Publicizing a perp walk of an 11 year old is pretty horrendous. What is wrong with these people.
In a nation of mass shootings at schools, done by kids. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
We are incapable of dealing with access to guns, so we try to deal with the criminal element instead.
Too often the shooters made cries for help that resulted in nothing.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Saw this on a feed earlier.
Got me thinking, what IS the proper response to a child making a terrorist threat?
At some point they become old enough to follow through and make good on that promise.
So then, what do we do with them?

I saw arguments that this sort of scare tactic is not effective when the kid's behavior is already this far gone. But I am sure it's not zero percent effective..... Still, it bothers me to know it would only scare off those who were not serious. We need a methodology, an in-depth psyche eval to help determine the risk - and the necessary program that could lead to actual rehab.

It is the sort of thing. If we are too soft, what do other nations do, what are their solutions to child and teenage crimes? Thinking of the extreme opposite of us, Russia and China for example. Perhaps from their methods, we could find a middle ground that respects human rights and dignity, without flat out ignoring the problem until after a gun is used.
To start with, the child and all guardians who interact with them probably need mental health treatment. Rare for kids to exhibit behaviors like this in a vacuum.
 

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In a nation of mass shootings at schools, done by kids. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
We are incapable of dealing with access to guns, so we try to deal with the criminal element instead.
Too often the shooters made cries for help that resulted in nothing.
Perp walks do nothing but publicize the crime and criminal, and maybe ruin an innocent person's life.
 

fskimospy

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In a nation of mass shootings at schools, done by kids. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
We are incapable of dealing with access to guns, so we try to deal with the criminal element instead.
Too often the shooters made cries for help that resulted in nothing.
I'm all for arresting the kid if he poses a credible threat. I'm also for arresting the parents if they've been willfully negligent somehow.

I'm not for the public humiliation of 11 year olds though. I don't see how that serves the public interest.
 
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In a nation of mass shootings at schools, done by kids. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
We are incapable of dealing with access to guns, so we try to deal with the criminal element instead.
Too often the shooters made cries for help that resulted in nothing.
LOL, so no actual desperate measures, just further beating on the kids who need/needed help.
 

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No real crime was committed... Florida trampling on 1st and 2nd amendment rights. /s
 

iRONic

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The polar opposite of Ohio!

Sheriff there says to post the addresses of Harris/Walz yard signs.

Florida LEO wants to perp walk kids.
 
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The sheriff said last Friday that beginning Monday, they will begin coming after the parents of any juveniles threatening school shootings online.

“And starting Monday, your little cherub? We’re going to start publishing his face and doing perp walks with him when we take him into custody, and then we’re going to show pictures of you, the parents. Because you don’t want to raise your kid, Sheriff Chitwood is going to raise them,” he said in the video. “Parents, get your kids in line, or your checkbook’s gonna hurt and your pride’s gonna hurt. I promise.”


The parent part sounds good to me. I mean, look at the photos of the weapons. I know the guns are airsoft, but still, they look real. Why would parents allow all of that.

The kid part might be feasible as well but perhaps with the face blurred.


I honestly can’t say I disagree with this. Shame is a powerful motivator.
 
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I'm all for arresting the kid if he poses a credible threat. I'm also for arresting the parents if they've been willfully negligent somehow.

I'm not for the public humiliation of 11 year olds though. I don't see how that serves the public interest.

Agreed, that cop needs to stfu. It serves his interest to show what a big wang he has. It's a tough issue and it's mostly about mental health, since we won't do shit as a society over our gun fetish. That kid has been fucked up, by the parents or by the parents ignoring him, pick one.

Not saying the kid shouldn't be held in custody or even locked up, but parading him like Cersai in Game of Thrones is just a feeble attempt to satisfy blood lust.
 

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I'm assuming this kid was bullied in school so their "solution" is to shame him which is a type of bullying IMHO. They blame mental health for gun violence and this won't help this kid or his family one bit.

Can you smell the fascism yet?
 

WelshBloke

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So nothing about addressing the weird gun culture that the US has then?
Push guns as something cool and edgy then act all shocked when impressionable teens are taken in by it?
 

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Aren't there laws at the state levels that specifically deny the publication of a minor's identity upon their being arrested and incarcerated? Well, at least in Hawaii there is, unless of course the child is being charged as an adult.
 
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