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1080p with black bars.

Skurge

Skurge

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I watched a few 1080p trailers on youtube and I still get black bars at the top and bottom of the screen even though I have a 16:9 monitor.

Is it just youtube (As I don't get black bars when I watch House M.D in 720p) or is the actual movie going to look like that on blu-ray?
 
That is not your end or your fault, its the Video rendering of the person who made the video.

If its showing black bar it cant be 1080p 1920x1080p to fill the screen ,,, you see,,
 
1080p and 720p doesn't mean it'll fill out a 16:9 screen. If the video has an aspect greater than 1.78:1 it will have some degree of black bars. Though some 1.85:1 content is formatted as such to conform to 1.78:1.

If that was too confusing then to answer your question: yes, some BD's will have black bars, some won't. Nothing you can do about it except if your player has a zoom function (which you shouldn't use).

EDIT: Also most, if not all TV shows have a 1.78:1 aspect so that's why House has no black bars.
 
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Some content will be 2.35:1, others 1.78:1. If you get a widescreen that can display 2.35:1 material without black bars on the top and bottom then that widescreen is going to be so wide that it will display black bars on the left and right when you play 16:9 or 4:3 material.

Really its the same old story as it has ever been. You screen has a fixed physical aspect ratio, movies and so forth do not.
 
Idontcare said:
Some content will be 2.35:1, others 1.78:1. If you get a widescreen that can display 2.35:1 material without black bars on the top and bottom then that widescreen is going to be so wide that it will display black bars on the left and right when you play 16:9 or 4:3 material.

Really its the same old story as it has ever been. You screen has a fixed physical aspect ratio, movies and so forth do not.
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The move to 720p and 1080p would have a been the perfect time to get everyone to use a fixed aspect ratio.
 
lol, yeah good luck telling Steven Spielberg, James Cameron or George Lucas that they need to stop making their films in aspect ratios other than 16:9...our preferences are not about to become their problem or boundary condition in their cinematography
 
A lot of 1080p videos are actually only 1920x800 or something like that.

They are still considered 1080p though. I don't really know the reasoning behind it. I guess since it still has the full 1920 vertical lines it's still considered 1080p.
 
Schfifty Five said:
A lot of 1080p videos are actually only 1920x800 or something like that.

They are still considered 1080p though. I don't really know the reasoning behind it. I guess since it still has the full 1920 vertical lines it's still considered 1080p.
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^This is true...even though it makes no sense.
 
Schfifty Five said:
A lot of 1080p videos are actually only 1920x800 or something like that.

They are still considered 1080p though. I don't really know the reasoning behind it. I guess since it still has the full 1920 vertical lines it's still considered 1080p.
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Sebastian3297 said:
^This is true...even though it makes no sense.
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1920/800 = 2.4

This is a standard aspect ratio for films made with anamorphic lenses. Those really really widescreen movies.

If they convert the film to bluray/HD at 1080 pixels tall then you would need 2592 pixels in width to fully view the entire width of the movie without clipping the sides off.

So which would you like? Black bars top and bottom but you get to see the whole field of the movie, or no black bars but you also don't get to see the left and right extremes of the movie.

It's the same "full-screen versus widescreen" argument that people were having back in the day of DVD's and 4:3 aspect ratio CRT tv's.
 
MagickMan said:
If Kubrick were still alive he'd still be filming movies in 4:3, so count your blessings. 😛
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Oh I could live with that "problem" for another film 😉

And there's just no perfect solution - there were even films with 2.78:1 which must be fun to watch with a 16:9 resolution. Oh and allegedly in some old disney film they more or less "erased" an unimportant side character while pan&scanning the film - a prof told that once in class, but haven't found any other sources to that and who knows.


I still prefer as much pixels as possible, I just don't see the difference between a black bar at the top of the picture or a black bezel at the top. .and with all those aspect ratio problems there are enough black bars even with 16:9 screens as this thread is the perfect proof.
 
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