1080P ... SUCKS!

VirtualLarry

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Last BF-ish, I picked up a pair of 40" 4K UHD TVs, for monitors for my desktop PCs. My ATX PCs all have dGPUs in them, for the most part, and my pair of DeskMini units use active Club3D DP-to-HDMI2.0 adapters, in order to get 4K60 out of the Intel HD 630 iGPUs in my G4600 CPUs.

Well, for the most part, they work wonderfully.

But I have had reason, to build a few H81 / G3258 OC rigs, using some Biostar H81 boards I had around, and some G3258 CPUs that I had stockpiled.

Those work really well too, even with non-dual-channel RAM. (Max RAM speed according to ARK is DDR3-1333, on these models, along with a max 1080P video output.)

So, sad to say, these iGPUs in the G3258 only do 1080P. Which upscales fine on my 4K UHD TV, for the most part, but still... blah, only 1080P? I really, really miss my 4K UHD desktop resolution.

Basically, Intel's damn product segmentation at work, again. The i3 Haswell CPUs, and up, CAN do 4K, according to ARK.

What's even more interesting is, these same G3258 iGPUs, WILL DO 4K IN LINUX. Apparently, the Linux video driver, isn't software-limited to 1080P. Something is a little bit overdriven, or perhaps my GPU's iGPU didn't make the TMDS frequency cutoff for 4K, because there are some "sparklies", in some of the shades of color in the Linux Mint background. But my 4K UHD TV shows that it is in 4K30 mode.
 

escrow4

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I'm sure there is delicious irony somewhere that despite all the 4K and all the fancy 2K17 tech my default film watching choice is SD (576p or 480p) or 720p from my own rips.
 

VirtualLarry

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It should be noted as well, that in their mainstream drivers, Intel is alone in NOT providing some sort of virtual higher-resolution desktop feature. AMD supports VSR (Virtual Super Resolution) in their newest drivers and GCN-based cards, and even maybe a couple of higher-end APUs. NVidia supports DSR (Digital Super Resolution) in their newest drivers, with basically, I think Fermi and up dGPUs. And as a matter of fact, I have some cheap-o "iView" Windows 8.1 7" tablets, with a true native resolution of like 1024x600 (an Android tablet resolution), but their stock Intel iGPU drivers, emulate a 1280x800 screen resolution. Not too badly, either. So it IS possible, for the "right" Intel iGPU driver to support a higher virtual screen resolution than natively supported.

I just wish that Intel would expose that feature in their consumer drivers, and offer a virtual resolution higher than 1080P, on a 1080P output.
 

wilds

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I strongly feel that 1920x1080 is the new 1366x768.

It should be noted as well, that in their mainstream drivers, Intel is alone in NOT providing some sort of virtual higher-resolution desktop feature. AMD supports VSR (Virtual Super Resolution) in their newest drivers and GCN-based cards, and even maybe a couple of higher-end APUs. NVidia supports DSR (Digital Super Resolution) in their newest drivers, with basically, I think Fermi and up dGPUs. And as a matter of fact, I have some cheap-o "iView" Windows 8.1 7" tablets, with a true native resolution of like 1024x600 (an Android tablet resolution), but their stock Intel iGPU drivers, emulate a 1280x800 screen resolution. Not too badly, either. So it IS possible, for the "right" Intel iGPU driver to support a higher virtual screen resolution than natively supported.

I just wish that Intel would expose that feature in their consumer drivers, and offer a virtual resolution higher than 1080P, on a 1080P output.

Larry, I hate to say this but you may be interested in turning your PC into a Hackintosh. OS X has a 3rd party Application called SwitchResX (free limited trial). I've been using it for about a year. It fully supports VSR/DSR on my Intel HD 4000 as well as my Nvidia GT 650M.

Making a Hackintosh for the first time is incredibly hard though, but I love making them.
 
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Flapdrol1337

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NVidia supports DSR (Digital Super Resolution) in their newest drivers, with basically, I think Fermi and up dGPUs..
I could create higher than native custom resolutions with my gtx260 back in the day. But it took until maxwell I think before they added a filter and started marketing it as a feature.