1080p playback on nVidia 6150se

[lakedude]

Do y'all think a desktop with an nVidia 6150se and an AMD 9150e 1.8GHz quad core should be able to play 1080p?

It is running all choppy or blocky.

I've installed latest nVidia driver, tried VLC, mPlayer, and Xine. I've enabled video acceleration and tried all the output render paths. No combination seems to be able to play 1080p smoothly.

Is the system just not fast enough or is there something else to try?

 

[Red Hawk]

Your graphics chip isn't just slow, but old. Chances are that integrated graphics chip doesn't even properly support hardware acceleration of video playback. And if it does, it most definitely doesn't have the processing power or memory bandwidth to play 1080p smoothly. You would be better off disabling hardware acceleration and having your CPU decode the video. Even then, video decoding is strictly a single threaded function, and your CPU doesn't quite have the single-threading muscle to pull off 1080p playback.

My point is that your system probably can't do 1080p playback as it is now. But if you buy a $30 Radeon HD 5450 and put it in your PC and you should be good to go.

 

[lakedude]

Thanks Red Hawk.

The system threw a hard drive so a friend gave it to me to fix.

It is amazing how far things have come after just a few years. That 6150se based system is only about 3 years old (the AMD Phenom X4 9150e came out July 2008) and it is already old and slow, as you say.

I just purchased a system with a $69 AMD A4-3400 with an on die HD6410 that plays 1080p perfect. It was about the cheapest thing you could buy (the entire system was only $210) and it works great for HTPC.

The computer industry continues to dazzle me.

 

[Lonyo]

The 6150 is ancient, the series first came out in 2005.
It doesn't fully support Purevideo, and gen 1 Purevideo wasn't particularly good anyway.

 

[Red Hawk]

Thanks Red Hawk.

The system threw a hard drive so a friend gave it to me to fix.

It is amazing how far things have come after just a few years. That 6150se based system is only about 3 years old (the AMD Phenom X4 9150e came out July 2008) and it is already old and slow, as you say.

I just purchased a system with a $69 AMD A4-3400 with an on die HD6410 that plays 1080p perfect. It was about the cheapest thing you could buy (the entire system was only $210) and it works great for HTPC.

The computer industry continues to dazzle me.

Well as Lonyo said, the graphics chip in that PC isn't actually 3 years old. The computer may have been manufactured 3 years ago but the 6150se chip was first released back in 2005. It was bottom of the barrel stuff back then too. Meanwhile that AMD A4-3400 was just released this past summer.

 

[Arkadrel]

lakedude

that 69$ A4-3400 is much faster, mhz for mhz, and it has 2.7ghz > 1.8ghz (900mhz advantage).

Ontop of that, the Llano you have has a "Unified Video Decoder" which is basically a portion of the GPU thats dedicated to decodeing video (so you dont "stress" your cpu for it, when you watch movies).

Is the system just not fast enough or is there something else to try?

Thats sadly the crux of it, that onboard IGP from Nvidia, isnt fast enough.
Hes probably gonna need a small cheap gpu.

That or redo system, with a cheap Llano build like you did.

 

[gmaster456]

You'd be lucky if you can watch 720p youtube with that card. It was bottom of the barrel back in 2005. Just imagine what it is now. As for his CPU not being able to play 1080 I disagree. Any mainstream desktop quad core can run 1080p.

 

[Bryf50]

Your graphics chip isn't just slow, but old. Chances are that integrated graphics chip doesn't even properly support hardware acceleration of video playback. And if it does, it most definitely doesn't have the processing power or memory bandwidth to play 1080p smoothly. You would be better off disabling hardware acceleration and having your CPU decode the video. Even then, video decoding is strictly a single threaded function, and your CPU doesn't quite have the single-threading muscle to pull off 1080p playback.

My point is that your system probably can't do 1080p playback as it is now. But if you buy a $30 Radeon HD 5450 and put it in your PC and you should be good to go.

lol wut? No it isn't. Video decoding scales just fine with cores. I think with the right set up his cpu should be able to do 1080p depending on the bitrate.

Download media player classic home cinema and the latest build of ffdshow-Tryouts(includes a special multithreaded fork of the ffmpeg project). If you need more help setting that up let me know but all the info should be out there on google.

 

[jacktesterson]

His CPU will play 1080p.

Your fine.

To keep the load off the CPU though, a 5450/6450 can be found for under $30 and will improve your experience.

 

[lakedude]

As I understand it the codec can make a big difference. From a Core AVC ad:

Minimum Requirements for Running 1080p on PC (standard codec):

Processor: 2.4Ghz (dual core) or 3.5Ghz (single Core) processor.
Graphics: Nvidia/ATi having bare minimum 256MB Video RAM and core clock 600Mhz.


CoreAVC (which actually includes Haali as part of its setup) is a multi-core aware AVC video decoder.

Minimum Requirements (using CoreAVC):

Processor: 1.5 Ghz (Dual core), 2.6Ghz (single core)
Graphics: Modern Intel Extreme Graphics or Nvidia or ATi with 128MB video RAM, core clock 300Mhz.

... this means even a 4 year old PC can play it

 

[lakedude]

The system is currently running Linux, as the owner does not want to spend the $14.15 it takes to get a Vista restore disk from HP. Linux has several good media players but I can't find anything like ffdshow for Linux...