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1080p idiocy

Queasy

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
I was checking out this deal on a 37" Olevia LCD HDTV and started reading some of the reviews. Somebody actually listed the fact that a 37" HDTV didn't support 1080p as a CON. That's the second time today I've seen something like this. Previously, someone complained that a 32" HDTV didn't support 1080p.

People stop the madness! You'd aren't going to notice the difference of 1080p on a 37" or 32" HDTV unless you've got your face pressed to the screen!!

/rant
 
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
I was checking out this deal on a 37" Olevia LCD HDTV and started reading some of the reviews. Somebody actually listed the fact that a 37" HDTV didn't support 1080p as a CON. That's the second time today I've seen something like this. Previously, someone complained that a 32" HDTV didn't support 1080p.

People stop the madness! You'd aren't going to notice the difference of 1080p on a 37" or 32" HDTV unless you've got your face pressed to the screen!!

/rant
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not only that, but unless you are watching a blu ray or HD-DVD movie, you won't notice the difference either.
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
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I think he's referring to the screen size
 
Ok I guess. 32" doesn't need 1080p yet. I think 42" and above you should be getting 1080p, and 720p doesn't cut it. But still. 1080p is not something insanely hard to achieve.

Why else do our 24" Dell monitors already do 1080p resolutions?
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
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You don't understand. You're not going to notice the benefit of 1080p on 32" or 37" screens. 1080i, 720p, and 1080p will look the same unless you've got your face right up near the screen. You really need to have a 50" screen or larger size to notice the difference at normal viewing distances.

Please refer to the charts in this article
 
true it is the future, but by the time this future arrives we will be on the nth generation of 1080p tvs. HD broadcasts are not in 1080p and most broadcasts are still not even HD at all, blueray and hddvd are not popular. So IMO the only reason for 1080p now is to use it as a computer monitor. By the time we *need* 1080p it will be time for an upgrade anyhow.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
Click to expand...

You don't understand. You're not going to notice the benefit of 1080p on 32" or 37" screens. 1080i, 720p, and 1080p will look the same unless you've got your face right up near the screen. You really need to have a 50" screen or larger size to notice the difference at normal viewing distances.

Please refer to the charts in this article
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I know that it probably wouldn't matter. I don't viciously defend 720p/1080i sets though. I mean what's the point? Are you saying this because you don't have 1080p yet? I mean I have a 1080p LCD, and I'm perfectly satisfied.

I'm beginning to feel that the people who vehemently criticize 1080p are the ones trying to make sure their 1080i sets aren't getting outdated.

1080p is a hype. But anti-1080p is a defensive maneuver.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
I was checking out this deal on a 37" Olevia LCD HDTV and started reading some of the reviews. Somebody actually listed the fact that a 37" HDTV didn't support 1080p as a CON. That's the second time today I've seen something like this. Previously, someone complained that a 32" HDTV didn't support 1080p.

People stop the madness! You'd aren't going to notice the difference of 1080p on a 37" or 32" HDTV unless you've got your face pressed to the screen!!

/rant
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makes a huge difference if you use it as a monitor..,
 
I agree with those who say it is the future. Might as well buy the best you can now. I think the sweet spot is a 40+" LCD with 1080P...especially from Sony or Samsung...or maybe Sharp too.
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
Click to expand...

You don't understand. You're not going to notice the benefit of 1080p on 32" or 37" screens. 1080i, 720p, and 1080p will look the same unless you've got your face right up near the screen. You really need to have a 50" screen or larger size to notice the difference at normal viewing distances.

Please refer to the charts in this article
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I know that it probably wouldn't matter. I don't viciously defend 720p/1080i sets though. I mean what's the point? Are you saying this because you don't have 1080p yet? I mean I have a 1080p LCD, and I'm perfectly satisfied.

I'm beginning to feel that the people who vehemently criticize 1080p are the ones trying to make sure their 1080i sets aren't getting outdated.

1080p is a hype. But anti-1080p is a defensive maneuver.
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😕 I'm not knocking 1080p. I'm knocking people who buy into the hype of 1080p as the be-all and end-all and discount/criticize perfectly good sets because they don't support something that is not needed and that will probably never be needed because of their screen size.
 
My friend uses the 37" Westinghouse as a monitor, and so yes, 1080p is necessary. I'm sure all those who use 30" Apple Cinema/Dell 3007s also want at least 1080p support on their monitors. There's a reason monitors are so high res even when you go that big.
 
Like you said, it all depends on how far you're sitting. My dad just bought a 60" SXRD and I can definitely tell the difference between the resolution of the 1080i and 720p channels sitting about 8 feet from it; it's definitely noticeable on this size screen, from this distance (I wasn't so good at noticing the effect of interlacing, however).

As an aside, overly compressed standard def channels look awful on this set whereas they were tolerable on the old 32" CRT that's been replaced; garbage in, garbage out certainly applies to HDTVs.
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
My friend uses the 37" Westinghouse as a monitor, and so yes, 1080p is necessary. I'm sure all those who use 30" Apple Cinema/Dell 3007s also want at least 1080p support on their monitors. There's a reason monitors are so high res even when you go that big.
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Exactly...there's a reason monitors are so high res....that's because they are designed with the idea thate you sit at a desk with your face a couple of feet away. HDTVs like the 37" Olevia are designed for viewing when you are sitting 7-10 ft away.
 
Ooh, an HDTV flamewar!

Paging Spidey07, Paging Spidey07... 🙂

Anyway, I'd personally want an 1080p TV in order to "future proof" myself. I'm sure that the next generation game consoles (Whatever comes after the XBox 360 and Playstation 3) will all be optimized for 1080p resolution.
 
I bought a 1080p 56" Samsung DLP because A. The amazon deal was too hard to pass up, B. I wanted to take full advantage of the HD-DVD player for my Xbox360. I love it :thumbsup:.
 
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.

 
this is why I heart my New EDTV plasma I bought on thanksgiving for $360. 42" and I sit 10 feet away, you can't tell the difference, movies look stunning, and so does football.

I'll get a 50" 720p HDTV plasma/LCD when the price point is under $1k. That or I might just splurge and get a projector.
 
Originally posted by: doze
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.
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The 1080p argument may be sort of pushing it, but realize that all technologies on the market today (LCD, plasma, and all micro-displays) are natively progressive devices. With this in mind, most displays these days that aren't 1080p are actually 720p, and you can most certainly see the difference between 720p and 1080i/p.
 
Originally posted by: doze
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.
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Well for TVs people tend to keep them a lot longer than the average tech item.
 
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: doze
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.
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The 1080p argument may be sort of pushing it, but realize that all technologies on the market today (LCD, plasma, and all micro-displays) are natively progressive devices. With this in mind, most displays these days that aren't 1080p are actually 720p, and you can most certainly see the difference between 720p and 1080i/p.
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yes, if you're standing directly in front of the TV you can tell. Viewing distance plays a HUGE part in whether you can tell the difference as a casual viewer.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It might not matter, but 1080p is the future. You might as well hop onboard.

It's like those ATI fanboys crying how SM3 didn't matter....

What will you say when a lot of media comes in 1080p format in the future?.. Games? Cheap LCDs might be great buys, but you get what you pay for
Click to expand...

You don't understand. You're not going to notice the benefit of 1080p on 32" or 37" screens. 1080i, 720p, and 1080p will look the same unless you've got your face right up near the screen. You really need to have a 50" screen or larger size to notice the difference at normal viewing distances.

Please refer to the charts in this article
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I need 1440p 🙁
 
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: doze
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.
Click to expand...

The 1080p argument may be sort of pushing it, but realize that all technologies on the market today (LCD, plasma, and all micro-displays) are natively progressive devices. With this in mind, most displays these days that aren't 1080p are actually 720p, and you can most certainly see the difference between 720p and 1080i/p.
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Yeah, maybe I just sit too close or something, but it seems to me that there would be a noticable difference between 720p and 1080p even on a 24" screen, and would become moreso from there up in screen size. Admittedly I haven't tested this, and perhaps its more the fact that 720p being non-native on a 1080p display is the real cause for the difference.
 
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: doze
I still don't understand the buy this feature now b/c it will be cool one day in the future mentality surrounding technology products.
Click to expand...

The 1080p argument may be sort of pushing it, but realize that all technologies on the market today (LCD, plasma, and all micro-displays) are natively progressive devices. With this in mind, most displays these days that aren't 1080p are actually 720p, and you can most certainly see the difference between 720p and 1080i/p.
Click to expand...

Yeah, maybe I just sit too close or something, but it seems to me that there would be a noticable difference between 720p and 1080p even on a 24" screen, and would become moreso from there up in screen size. Admittedly I haven't tested this, and perhaps its more the fact that 720p being non-native on a 1080p display is the real cause for the difference.
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At 2 feet yes. At a sitting distance of 7-10 ft, not as much.
 
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