100GB CD/CDR To Be Demonstrated

[Bozo Galora]

4 layer CD 100GB technology to be shown in Vegas this week at NAB convention. (can hold 20 full movies)
They will be showing the burner and media. If you go, be sure and stop at inphase booth. A friend is
gonna bring me back all the literature.
This stuff is coming soon.


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[JackBurton]

Man, that would be AWESOME! I REALLY need something like this to back up my 80GB hds.

 

[bacillus]

<< Man, that would be AWESOME! I REALLY need something like this to back up my 80GB hds. >>


what are you going to do with the 20Gb of free space??

 

[j@cko]

when i saw the title, i thought you made a typo there.. haha

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Now thats a technological jump the Computer industry needs. NO MORE TAPES!!!!

 

[Pocatello]

Wow, just what I need for my mp3 and divx files.

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

I remember seeing news about this tech a year or two ago, and wetting my pants over it then. I hope this comes to market fairly soon, and I'm not saying the same thing in another year or two..

 

[RazorWind]

I read on yahoo news that first samples will arrive late 2003 and mass production will start 2004.

 

[Naythn]

So, how long will that take to write?

 

[arcas]

Any wagers on whether the RIAA/MPAA are going to try to disuade manufacturers from mass-producing consumer units?

 

[Baronz]

Just think how many songs the great music industry will be able to put on CDs then

That would be great tho, they just better have some sort of burning technology that goes at around 100X burn speed, otherwise its gona take 10 hours to burn the things.

 

[JellyBaby]

<< Any wagers on whether the RIAA/MPAA are going to try to disuade manufacturers from mass-producing consumer units? >>

It's none of their business. Of course that won't stop them from trying. They should see something like this as a business opportunity (hey, put the videos onboard and jack up the price!) instead of a threat but they're stuck in old school thinking.

 

[microAmp]

<< So, how long will that take to write? >>



LOL!!

Is it using the blue laser technology? Read in Maxium PC that there was one that did @25 Gigs, didn't say if it was single or dual layered, one side or both.

 

[CZroe]

Imagine how sensitive they are! A fairly large scratch will probably obscure half a GB of data! IMO, CDs were designed to break. They NEVER should have been released to the public in that format. They should have been in a floppy-style jewl case and been removeable for jukeboxes and such only. DVDs are a joke. I've seen brand-new ones come out of the packaging with a production scratch that renders it unplayable. This format better not be sold as a disc-only media format... Disc/Cartridge is the way to go. This would not only ensure that it's protected, but it could be used as a form of copy-protection for media that is used in it if the cartridge could carry a ROM that the program will check for. That's why Nintendo chose to go with cartridges for the N64, and it did prevent pirated carts from showing up. This way, you can still use your legal backup by swapping discs in the cart. As long as no one makes a drive with a built-in ROM programmer it will remain out of reach for the average consumer. As for the RIAA and MPAA, they can not limit a technology based on its storage limit just because it's capable of storing something of theirs. They didn't invent storage. They only control a fraction of what it could be used for. It's none of their business.

 

[venk]

One Reason.

CDs = Cheap
Cartridges = Expensive


Thats why Playstation games were $30-$40 while N64 games were $60-$70.

 

[CZroe]

I am referring to a CD caddy, nothing more than plastic and a spring. The additional feature is optional...
It would also be far cheaper than a console cartridge because all it needs is a tiny chip for unique identification. Not a 32MB+ ROM chip.

 

[CZroe]

Also, the caddy would serve as protection. If the caddy is ever damaged, the disc and identifier chip could be carefully moved into a replacement housing.

 

[CocaCola5]

Seems like the CD is trying to maintain pace with the hard drive.

 

[Broadkipa]

I have never had trouble with my CD media, In all the years I have been using CDs both pre-recorded and recordable I can only think of one time when a DVD refused to play out the box. Thats a very small failure rate for me, less than 1% I'm sure. If you are carefull with your disks they will last for ages. I think Cd are quite robust unless you mistreat them.

 

[CZroe]

I am also shocked by the reliability of CDs. I understand that the laser focuses past the scratches, and that CD media has redundant areas, but you would think that even the slightest scratch should refract enough light to cause the data to be read incorrectly. After all, each microscopic pit is either a 1, or a 0 (on a CD). 8 pits make a byte, or a single letter. Innumerable things can go wrong PC program using incorrect data. Anyway, label-side damage almost always destroys data. A caddy would be indispensable.

(How would an error-correcting algorithm work with holographic data?)

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

Sounds to me like you're suggesting CD sized Mini-Disc cartriges.

 

[CZroe]

Apparently my brother doesn't know that these aren't raw bytes made up from the pits and lands, but rather bytes using an error-resistant algorithm.
Also, *I* (Not he) was referring to a CD jewl case design that doesn't need to be opened (But CAN be), similar to a caddy. Because of this, it would cost absolutely nothing more to manufacturer. "Free" CDs would still be rampant due to the availability of "empty" caddys. The cartridge idea means and optional piece of silicon with a connector edge has a place on the caddy and the drives can read it. Carts are only expensive when you are trying to store tons of data on them. In this case, the CD is for storage. The cart will only contain a KB or so of data. An encryption key, or even just a bit of data that the software will refuse to run without. Also, it could use EEPROM or SRAM like a Nintendo cartridge to save password/progress/save data for games and such People pirate carts often now. It's almost impossible to order an import GBA game off of eBay without getting a pirated one (The cheapest are around $10!). So it's not that expensive anymore!

 

[CZroe]

Yes, in fact I've compared it to that before in discussions about the GameCube disc Except it wouldn't have to be recordable

 

[BD231]

Man, that would be AWESOME! I REALLY need something like this to back up my 80GB hds

Ditto. I would imagine that the disks would be sold in perminant caddys(meaning you cant remove the disk from the caddy), a scratch would most likely render the disk useless or at least unreliable. Small price to pay though, I've seen plenty of SCSI drives use caddys and IMO it's a good way to safegaurd your disks. I wonder how long it would take a writer to write 100 gig's of info though

, a slow write speed would be enough to keep me away from it.

 

[CZroe]

Oh come on! It couldn't be slower than tape drives!