1007.04 Asus A8n Sli-Deluxe Bios
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Heh, i just spotted this too and came to shout about it. I'll flash now.
EDIT: Wow, this looks almost like a mini-revolution on the BIOS front. Completely different RAM settings, no added features, just laid out differently. CPU settings are also laid out differently, and....
1.5 -> 1.65V is available for the winchester in the BIOS.. will it work? Lets see.
EDIT: Wow, this looks almost like a mini-revolution on the BIOS front. Completely different RAM settings, no added features, just laid out differently. CPU settings are also laid out differently, and....
1.5 -> 1.65V is available for the winchester in the BIOS.. will it work? Lets see.
After remembering to relax my memory timings, Super-Pi works at 9 x 251.2, 1T... anyone want to take bets on it failling at 252? 
[30 seconds later...] It failed... 1T issue not fixed.
[30 seconds later...] It failed... 1T issue not fixed.
do you have a winchester? did you try the extra voltage options....
not happy that 1t aint fixed
what exactly failed - didn't it post? or did it just fail your test
not happy that 1t aint fixed
what exactly failed - didn't it post? or did it just fail your test
1.5V -> 1.65V don't work on my Winchester, so guess they won't on anyone elses. (They provide ~1.56V)
It failed super-pi and very relaxed settings:
RAM, 252mhz @ 3-4-4-10, 2.95V, 1T
CPU, 252 x 9 = 2268 @ 1.56V (maximum for the board)
So, the CPU isn't the issue, because I've had it beyond 2.6ghz, and the RAM should have no problems at CAS3, 2.95V. It works fine at 250, and 251, only one attempt at each, so it may have failed second time round. Put 1M Super-Pi complains about Not Exact In Round, and that's it...
It failed super-pi and very relaxed settings:
RAM, 252mhz @ 3-4-4-10, 2.95V, 1T
CPU, 252 x 9 = 2268 @ 1.56V (maximum for the board)
So, the CPU isn't the issue, because I've had it beyond 2.6ghz, and the RAM should have no problems at CAS3, 2.95V. It works fine at 250, and 251, only one attempt at each, so it may have failed second time round. Put 1M Super-Pi complains about Not Exact In Round, and that's it...
what a bag of s*ite. why did they even bother.
I got a 3500+ winni and I am sure it'd do 2.8ghz with 1.65v (got watercooling so heat aint issue)
so even if you set v to 1.65 it still only gives 1.56, again why did they bother.
what ram you running? i got ocz pc3200 plat rev 2.0
I got a 3500+ winni and I am sure it'd do 2.8ghz with 1.65v (got watercooling so heat aint issue)
so even if you set v to 1.65 it still only gives 1.56, again why did they bother.
what ram you running? i got ocz pc3200 plat rev 2.0
Aquila76
Diamond Member
WTF? Dammit, I really am starting to feel that I should have waited for the DFI board. All the parts I bought were so that I could have a stable OC, and this board is definitly the limiting factor. I have had nothing but ASUS boards and had nothing but great results until this one. You can't pin it on nVidia or SLI because look at the DFI mobo. ASUS, please fix this issue.
Look guys I am ruuning now this setup for 4 months.I have no problems!
I can overclock this baby pass 2.8ghz but my ram is not so good.I am ruuning now this bios and everything is OK.I am very happy with this setup.
So for me ASUS still ROX!!
My spec is in the sigh.
Frame
I can overclock this baby pass 2.8ghz but my ram is not so good.I am ruuning now this bios and everything is OK.I am very happy with this setup.
So for me ASUS still ROX!!
My spec is in the sigh.
Frame
Look, I know some people are not satisfied with the 1T limitations of the Asus but since most of the performance on this platform comes from CPU clock speed, some additional performance comes from low memory latency, and almost none comes from bandwidth, why not just sell off your high-bandwidth memory and buy some low-latency memory? Supposing you have a decent chip, you could run 9x289 @ DDR333 with timings as low as you can go. This would give you 2.6 GHz with memory at a real frequency of 236 (DDR472) at 1T. Be happy!
If for some reason you *must* have higher numbers because of an obsession that has little to do with real-World performance, then by all means sell the board and go DFI but at least acknowledge why you are doing that.
I only make this point because I feel that a lot of people may be put off the Asus by all this talk of disastrous overclocking potential when the reality is that it provides ample scope for overclocking.
I am crossing my fingers at this point because I have just ordered one of these boards . I reserve the right to hate this board in future and yes, I will come to you guys for help .
If for some reason you *must* have higher numbers because of an obsession that has little to do with real-World performance, then by all means sell the board and go DFI but at least acknowledge why you are doing that.
I only make this point because I feel that a lot of people may be put off the Asus by all this talk of disastrous overclocking potential when the reality is that it provides ample scope for overclocking.
I am crossing my fingers at this point because I have just ordered one of these boards
. I reserve the right to hate this board in future and yes, I will come to you guys for help .
GuitarDaddy
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Originally posted by: Tiorapatea
Look, I know some people are not satisfied with the 1T limitations of the Asus but since most of the performance on this platform comes from CPU clock speed, some additional performance comes from low memory latency, and almost none comes from bandwidth, why not just sell off your high-bandwidth memory and buy some low-latency memory? Supposing you have a decent chip, you could run 9x289 @ DDR333 with timings as low as you can go. This would give you 2.6 GHz with memory at a real frequency of 236 (DDR472) at 1T. Be happy!
If for some reason you *must* have higher numbers because of an obsession that has little to do with real-World performance, then by all means sell the board and go DFI but at least acknowledge why you are doing that.
I only make this point because I feel that a lot of people may be put off the Asus by all this talk of disastrous overclocking potential when the reality is that it provides ample scope for overclocking.
I am crossing my fingers at this point because I have just ordered one of these boards
I couldn't agree more. I've had this board since December and it is a fantastic board and I wouldn't trade it for any of the other NF4 boards. I have been running at 2.6ghz 24/7 since the first week I built it with my 3200+ using exactly the settings you described.
I would like to see the 250 1T issue fixed as much as anybody, if for nothing else just so this board gets the recognition it deserves as an excellent overclocker. But as you stated the real performance of increased bandwidth on A64's is zero.
And if you want/need additional vcore (extreme O/C ing with phase change/highend water cooling) do a vmod on the board (OP Painter at Extreme gives a good description of how to do this on the A8N-SLI) or if your into programing, get the pheonix bios editor and create your own modded bios. If you do of course you must share it with me
And Tiorapatea feel free to PM me any time, I will gladly share any tricks I've learned about this board
:beer:
I may just do that, thanks GuitarDaddy.
In line with what I was saying, I have just gone for two 512MB sticks of single-sided Crucial RAM, not even the Ballistix or anything. But in fact I am aiming for a reasonably quiet computer so I have huge cooling (XP-120), quiet 120mm Nexus fans, and am aiming for a decent MHz/noise ratio.
My hope is for something like 10x240 @ DDR333 (DDR400 actual) and 1T and I will just try the memory on SPD at first, which I imagine is 3-3-3-8 or something. Does anyone know if I'll need more than stock voltage on the memory if I am running it at its standard spec in this way? Not too sure either how many volts the basic Crucial sticks can take should I need to go higher. I'd be grateful for any experiences, bearing in mind I want a long life for this machine. (Actually, I am building it for an old friend.)
I am not an overclocker, so I am ok with this. I have resigned myself to the idea that they aren't likely going to be able to change this, and since that doesn't really effect me, it only slightly bothers me.
What bothers me more is that even though this motherboard has been stable, and even though the chipset fan was a POS, nothing about this board has blown me away to the point where any motherboard seems "that different" from any other. The impression I've been given is essentially is that a motherboard is just another cog in the wheel, not really anything to have impassioned feelings about.
So in a way, I really wish the board was kicking ass and taking names so that I could think of motherboards as something so many posters on anandtech seem to be.
So, I don't think this experience has really done anything to make me have that brand loyalty for motherboards.
Maybe that's a good thing though.
Though maybe not. With my a64 3000+ I have just been really pleased, to the point that I'll likely be an AMD lifer.
What bothers me more is that even though this motherboard has been stable, and even though the chipset fan was a POS, nothing about this board has blown me away to the point where any motherboard seems "that different" from any other. The impression I've been given is essentially is that a motherboard is just another cog in the wheel, not really anything to have impassioned feelings about.
So in a way, I really wish the board was kicking ass and taking names so that I could think of motherboards as something so many posters on anandtech seem to be.
So, I don't think this experience has really done anything to make me have that brand loyalty for motherboards.
Maybe that's a good thing though.
Though maybe not. With my a64 3000+ I have just been really pleased, to the point that I'll likely be an AMD lifer.
As a separate issue, I believe I'm still running 1003. I don't really want to risk disk corruption. So anyone think I should update my bios? Consider also that I am not an OC'er.
If your system is stable with your current BIOS and works fine, then there really is no reason to update the BIOS since you don't overclock. There is really nothing for you to gain.
akugami
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I'm running on 1004 final BIOS and it's been pretty good to me. I'm hesitant to change the BIOS because if it aint' broke, don't fix it.
For all of you whining about not being able to hit past 245'ish mhz at 1T, it barely matters unless you're trying to pump up your e-penix. Some other site did a test and it showed what people long suspected, due to the integrated memory controller high speed memory doesn't give as large of a boost to performance as on the Athlon XP or on Pentium4's.
Most of the boost is in raw CPU speed and this board should be able to take you easily to 2.8ghz. Providing your CPU can do 2.8ghz stable of course and you have good cooling. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good to have the motherboard overclock memory to 300mhz, just that it's not as large of a deal as people make it out to be. That extra RAM speed the DFI boards can do over the ASUS will probably only net you 4fps in something like Doom3 and HL2. Not a make or break deal IMHO.
If you're really bothered by not being able to go past 245mhz at 1T. Sell the board and get a DFI.
For all of you whining about not being able to hit past 245'ish mhz at 1T, it barely matters unless you're trying to pump up your e-penix. Some other site did a test and it showed what people long suspected, due to the integrated memory controller high speed memory doesn't give as large of a boost to performance as on the Athlon XP or on Pentium4's.
Most of the boost is in raw CPU speed and this board should be able to take you easily to 2.8ghz. Providing your CPU can do 2.8ghz stable of course and you have good cooling. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good to have the motherboard overclock memory to 300mhz, just that it's not as large of a deal as people make it out to be. That extra RAM speed the DFI boards can do over the ASUS will probably only net you 4fps in something like Doom3 and HL2. Not a make or break deal IMHO.
If you're really bothered by not being able to go past 245mhz at 1T. Sell the board and get a DFI.
thank god......I was running at 260x10x4 and could not get 1T command...thought it was my g.skill memory....apparently it is the bios/board right now....
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?p=3434932#post3434932
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?p=3434932#post3434932
Ah you probebly dont know this firm.
MEGTRON-Mega Power Cooler
It has thermo-electric cooling,it is small peltier element.It is very easy to install just like retail cooler.The size is the seme.But the performance is great!
At myspec I run it like this:For surfing the net,watching movies,riping...ect-1300rpm 30c-33c
-For gamming and hard stuff-3000rpm 40c-43c
So you si it is very very good!
I dont know if they selling it yet,I work for computer firm here in Slovenija,and I get it on CEBIT for testing!
THe basic is our firm will start to selling them in 2 weeks!They have 3 models-socket A,For A46 and for P4.
Frame
MEGTRON-Mega Power Cooler
It has thermo-electric cooling,it is small peltier element.It is very easy to install just like retail cooler.The size is the seme.But the performance is great!
At myspec I run it like this:For surfing the net,watching movies,riping...ect-1300rpm 30c-33c
-For gamming and hard stuff-3000rpm 40c-43c
So you si it is very very good!
I dont know if they selling it yet,I work for computer firm here in Slovenija,and I get it on CEBIT for testing!
THe basic is our firm will start to selling them in 2 weeks!They have 3 models-socket A,For A46 and for P4.
Frame
Just like Asus to get all the bugs out of the AMD version of the SLI mobo...THEN release to the Intel crowd once they have lab-rats to get it right.
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
Just like Asus to get all the bugs out of the AMD version of the SLI mobo...THEN release to the Intel crowd once they have lab-rats to get it right.
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
Just like Asus to get all the bugs out of the AMD version of the SLI mobo...THEN release to the Intel crowd once they have lab-rats to get it right.
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
Asus released their Intel version of the SLI mobo Apr.04/05. It is the P5ND2-SLI Deluxe.
Notice on the link i give that they switched to the silent chipset cooling heatsink instead of that nerve grating 8880 rpm. chipset fan? I am sure if you do a google search you will be able to see many more improvements Asus has made for their cash-cow Intel customers.
http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup....=big_P5ND2SLI-3D.jpg&articleid=757&t=n
http://www.tweak.dk/nyheder2.php?id=9599
Sound pissed??? I AM!!!
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