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$1000 budget, i think i've got it complete

Looks good but socket 939,pci-e,venice core + some ocz vx ram will much better with little added cost trust me i would do that if i had to do it again......
 
blah dont waste money on a raptor ! get a reguler harddrive and with th emoney save get a socket 939 processor and motherboard !
 
I wouldnt give up the raptor, i have one and it is definitly fast. I use it for my OS, and I have a 160 and a 200gb pata for storage. I would also go with socket 939, leaves more room for upgrades in the future from what I understand. I dont have any experience with the 939, or 754 sockets for that matter though. That case is similar to one I used for my aunts PC i built her, its nice.
 
dump the raptor and put the savings into a NF4 Ultra board (DFI or MSI are good) and a s939 CPU.

Dual core is upon us and the ability to carry your $350 video card to a new system is going to be a treat.

If you insist on s754, then at least pick up a PCIe NF4 s754 motherboard and keep the 3400+
 
couple of things: like everyone is saying, go with socket 939, 754 wont last long at all. if theres one thing that ive learned over the past few years, always think ahead.
and secondly, raptors dont make a difference? my a55 they dont. for a main hard drive, you cant fault them, with the exception of price. but if i were you, i wouldnt get the 74gb version, id get 2 36gbers and raid them, much faster than a single 74.
 
dump the raptor.

if you want to upgrade the system piecemeal, get socket 939.

if you like to use a computer until it no longer serves its purpose, then build a new one, get this setup.

other than that, looks good :thumbsup:
 
looks purty. imma wishin i gots one of dose.

Hey you really from DC?

So am I. Nice to meet you.

I wounldn't change an thing. That system rocks, don't let the high schoolers in this forum fool you into getting SLI.
 
Originally posted by: Twsmit
dump the raptor and put the savings into a NF4 Ultra board (DFI or MSI are good) and a s939 CPU.

Dual core is upon us and the ability to carry your $350 video card to a new system is going to be a treat.

If you insist on s754, then at least pick up a PCIe NF4 s754 motherboard and keep the 3400+
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First:
Dual core offers no susbstantial advantage over single core for the appreciated price aside from multitasking. Mainly in video decoding/encoding (as a practicle example) otherise spending on a faster CPU would be money better spent.

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
couple of things: like everyone is saying, go with socket 939, 754 wont last long at all. if theres one thing that ive learned over the past few years, always think ahead.
and secondly, raptors dont make a difference? my a55 they dont. for a main hard drive, you cant fault them, with the exception of price. but if i were you, i wouldnt get the 74gb version, id get 2 36gbers and raid them, much faster than a single 74.
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Second: 939 won't last long either. San Diego's are on the way. So bye bye 939.


Conclusion: nothing wrong with 754 socktet. If you follow the naming convention set by AMD you'll be fine. 2800<3000<3200<3400<3500<3800<4000<FX55.. That's all you need to know. Like I said, there are a lot of high schoolers in this forum. You got to watch out or you'll end up listening to them for some bad advice.

Future Proofing in a Nutshell
 
although i am in high school, i am not your "average" high schooler (i dont intend this to make me sound cocky or anything, so if it comes across as that way, sorry). also, while im not offended by what you said about high schoolers giving bad advice, i dont wholly agree with it. but thats another topic for another day.

when i said what i said about socket 939, i meant that it is aimed at the performace crowd, you dont see a fx-55 in socket 754 trim, do you? i also meant that it will surely be around longer than 754. but i do agree on what you said about the naming convention, if you follow that, youll be good either way.
 
PATA drive with that system? I was not aware that such a decision would be smart. I myself am in the market for a new computer. I currently have 4 160GB PATA drives, and was considering buying some Seagate 300Gb to replace those drives. Is it true I may not have to do this now?
 
Originally posted by: Chosonman
Originally posted by: Twsmit
dump the raptor and put the savings into a NF4 Ultra board (DFI or MSI are good) and a s939 CPU.

Dual core is upon us and the ability to carry your $350 video card to a new system is going to be a treat.

If you insist on s754, then at least pick up a PCIe NF4 s754 motherboard and keep the 3400+
Click to expand...

First:
Dual core offers no susbstantial advantage over single core for the appreciated price aside from multitasking. Mainly in video decoding/encoding (as a practicle example) otherise spending on a faster CPU would be money better spent.

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
couple of things: like everyone is saying, go with socket 939, 754 wont last long at all. if theres one thing that ive learned over the past few years, always think ahead.
and secondly, raptors dont make a difference? my a55 they dont. for a main hard drive, you cant fault them, with the exception of price. but if i were you, i wouldnt get the 74gb version, id get 2 36gbers and raid them, much faster than a single 74.
Click to expand...

Second: 939 won't last long either. San Diego's are on the way. So bye bye 939.


Conclusion: nothing wrong with 754 socktet. If you follow the naming convention set by AMD you'll be fine. 2800<3000<3200<3400<3500<3800<4000<FX55.. That's all you need to know. Like I said, there are a lot of high schoolers in this forum. You got to watch out or you'll end up listening to them for some bad advice.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=27&threadid=1585007&enterthread=y">Future Proofing in a Nutshell</a>
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Well he can still take advantage of the future upgrades of S939. S754 is dead for anymore A64's, but 939 have 12 months or more left. Dual core and the current and future CPU revisions like the recently releases venice etc.... can be helpful.

Also my point about PCIe. Even if he gets a s754 getting a PCIe video card and mobo chipset are important. Even with socket M2 being incompatible with the ram and CPU today, you can carry over the video. It really helps to minimize the cost of a platform upgrade.... ie.. SATA, PCIe etc... the guys who jumped from socket A and s478 to socket 775 had a hell of a drain on their pocket book because they couldnt really reuse anything put CDrom, and PATA HDD's.
 
Oh god no, please don't get the Raptor. $1000 is way too little to be wasting money on a Raptor. Maybe if you had $4000 it could possibly be justified... Anyways, if you're planning on sticking 4 sticks (2GB) of RAM in that thing in the future, you should go with the Venice. The Venice 3200+ costs the same price as the Newcastle 3400+, and the speed loss isn't that bad. The Venice can run all 4 sticks of RAM @ DDR400, while the other cores can only run them @ DDR333. Other than that, it looks pretty good!
 
3200+ s939
NF4 Pci-e motherboard.
x800XL
120gb Seagate sata



notes:

DFI NF4 Ultra-D is not compatible with Corsair VS. Its a hit or miss with that ram.

You need a 24 pin psu for NF4 chipsets.


PCI-e!!!! Dont buy an AGP motherboard or gfx card.
 
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