$100 for a headshot too much?

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Mai72

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You need to speak directly with the international schools. I knew people without education degrees (and some with only khao san rd degrees) making 120k+ baht. If you looked in the right places in Korea I'm sure you'd be making much more than that.

The program you mentioned appears to be the type of program friends of mine used after graduating college to teach in China, Japan, Korea. These "get to live overseas for free" programs really aren't for you if you have years of experience and a degree in education under your belt.

Wow. 120k+ baht! That's amazing money for Thailand. I'd live like a king if I could command that type of salary.

Did they get their job while they were living in Thailand, or were they living in the states? These are teaching positions correct? It's impossible to land a teaching position without a degree in education. The school could lose its accreditation if they hired people who weren't actual teachers.
 

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In the US, most of the time, professional photographers retain the rights to the photographs they take.

Read this:

http://blog.kunvay.com/why-you-dont...ng-day-copyrights-to-your-wedding-day-photos/

It's about wedding photos but the rules apply to pretty much everything. And a "gentleman's agreement" about reproducing your own 8x10s at Costco can disappear quickly if the photographer sells the rights to somebody else.

That was an interesting article, thanks for posting it. From that article:

For example, suppose someone takes a photo of a sculpture. Who owns the copyright – the photographer or the sculptor? Though it’s a bit tricky, the correct answer would have to be the original sculptor since, under copyright law he is the original creator of the sculpture. Though, the photographer is in possession of a photo of the work, he cannot own the copyright to the sculpture because he is not the original creator, and must have permission to reproduce images thereof.

What about the bride to be? She picked out the dress, has her hair and make up all right, maybe works out to develop that beautiful physique... Is she not the original sculptor of her own body? Does she not then own the copyright of her own wedding photos? Same for the groom?
 

Mai72

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My first two years in South Korea was at a hagwon. Also called a private academy.

My days were insane. My hours were from 9am-6:45pm everyday. A lot of that was non-stop teaching. I taught kindergarten from 9:30-2:30 then elementary form 2:45-6:45 I had a little over an hour for lunch 12:05-1:05 I also had one 40 minute break for lesson planning. That's it. It was just constant teaching. I was on my feet all day.

This program that I'm applying too works only with the public school system in South Korea. I don't plan to work at a hagwon ever again.
 
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That was an interesting article, thanks for posting it. From that article:



What about the bride to be? She picked out the dress, has her hair and make up all right, maybe works out to develop that beautiful physique... Is she not the original sculptor of her own body? Does she not then own the copyright of her own wedding photos? Same for the groom?

Nope.

Feel free to google more - this is long-settled law, that was just the first link I found.
 

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Wow. 120k+ baht! That's amazing money for Thailand. I'd live like a king if I could command that type of salary.

Did they get their job while they were living in Thailand, or were they living in the states? These are teaching positions correct? It's impossible to land a teaching position without a degree in education. The school could lose its accreditation if they hired people who weren't actual teachers.

From the teachers I met > 100k is typical for the international schools. Even at the good private schools which by far outnumber international schools. Private tutoring can pay much, much more, but you have to build up a clientele who want private tutoring for their 5 - 10 year olds. That's all by word of mouth though. These are the parents who are sending their children off to college in Australia, UK, US, etc.

Then you have the vast majority of schools hiring non-degree holders, some without even ESL, who are there on tourist visas. These schools just want white faces around in order to get the parents to fork over their money. It's the people teaching here making 30k - 50k. These schools aren't going to lose their license - the country is just too corrupt. You're way beyond that level of scam school.

I wasn't involved in teaching, but an ex of mine was so I got to hear all about it on a regular basis from her and her teaching friends (Thai's and foreigners). She had she a graduate degree in English from the top school in the country and was more than a bit upset that foreign high school dropouts were making over 2x what she was because their skin was the right shade. Her speech and knowledge of English were much better than what even the brightest of those losers could manage, but the color of your skin is more important to people over there who don't speak the language well, if at all.

No idea if you'll have any luck applying for good teaching jobs if you're not there.

Trust me, 120k won't be living like a king. My monthly budget was 3x that when in Thailand and I wasn't living lavishly by any means. Living in downtown Bangkok could easily be as expensive as Hong Kong and Singapore (though I was living at the same standard I was accustomed to back in the US). Compared to the locals making 10k/month you might be living like a king, but their standard of living is below that of the people in the projects in Detroit.
 
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What about the bride to be? She picked out the dress, has her hair and make up all right, maybe works out to develop that beautiful physique... Is she not the original sculptor of her own body? Does she not then own the copyright of her own wedding photos? Same for the groom?

Nope.

Feel free to google more - this is long-settled law, that was just the first link I found.

Oh I know it's not by law, what I meant to ask is shouldn't it be? I can see why it isn't though. Politicians responsible for those laws either feign or worse, actually believe God did it. How can you truly have separation of church and state when the voting public is duped into believing the church's baloney? Sorry I'll take the rant to P&N.
 

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Oh I know it's not by law, what I meant to ask is shouldn't it be? I can see why it isn't though. Politicians responsible for those laws either feign or worse, actually believe God did it. How can you truly have separation of church and state when the voting public is duped into believing the church's baloney? Sorry I'll take the rant to P&N.
Okay.
 

Mai72

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Well I had it done today, and I thought that it was worth the $100. The photographer gave me one on one attention which was great. This is something that I wouldn't have gotten if I had my photo taken at CVS or Wallgreens.

Overall it was a good experience.
 

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Well I had it done today, and I thought that it was worth the $100. The photographer gave me one on one attention which was great. This is something that I wouldn't have gotten if I had my photo taken at CVS or Wallgreens.

Overall it was a good experience.

Awesome :thumbsup:

Good luck in the job hunt.
 

Mai72

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Awesome :thumbsup:

Good luck in the job hunt.

Thank you.

I had to convince myself that it was worth it. I had people tell me that they would have done it much cheaper, but they aren't photographers.

You get what you pay for.
 

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Thank you.

I had to convince myself that it was worth it. I had people tell me that they would have done it much cheaper, but they aren't photographers.

You get what you pay for.

I wish most of my clients had this same mindset :D

Most people really don't get this... they think you should get everything for virtually nothing. Glad to see you have some sense with this :)
 

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I spent several minutes trying to figure out this thread title because the only deifinitions for "headshot" I could think of were:
1. A very strong drink
2. When you shoot someone in the head in a video game

I forgot that it was a photography term. That says a lot about a person.



Anyway, unless you're giving out 8x10's to autograph, you can just snap a pic on your cell phone and adjust the contrast and color yourself. If you're trying to impress your employer with how much you can afford to spend on photography, by all means have it professionally retouched.

If you're on a budget, then shop around. I don't know where you live, but here in Brooklyn, everyone's an art student begging for a gig.