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corwin

corwin

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A friend of mine is turning 40 this year, we're doing an open carry BBQ party for him, might not reach 100 people but should be fun all the same:awe:
 
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Lash444

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ivwshane said:
The pro gun faction of this country are becoming just as annoying as the pro gay movement, next thing we know they will be having open carry parades and they will be just as gay;)
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Did the open carry individuals walk around with big signs? Did they badger other people?

I don't care if 100 gays patronize my business.
I don't care if 100 atheists, or non-atheists patronize my business.
I don't care if 100 gun toting open carry individuals patronize my business.

I do care if they start holding up huge signs and yell in support of their cause. There is plenty of good ways to make a statement to bring light to all sorts of worthy causes, without disrupting, annoying, or threatening others.

And you should be happy when other people stand up to defend your rights. Maybe you're not gay. Maybe you're not religious. Hopefully you do believe in something, and more than likely a lot of the liberties you take for granted came from rights that others defended and fought for.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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Not a single rifle. Heavily armed not found.

I know they all have probably a dozen rifles each at home, I just wanted to see 100 people with magazine feed rifles.
 
SaurusX

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I'm a gun rights supporter, but I find open carry to be stupid. It doesn't benefit anyone to be shoving guns in the faces of people who might already be petrified of them. It's antagonistic. Out of sight out of mind and everyone's happy.
 
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TerryMathews

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SaurusX said:
I'm a gun rights supporter, but I find open carry to be stupid. It doesn't benefit anyone to be shoving guns in the faces of people who might already be petrified of them. It's antagonistic. Out of sight out of mind and everyone's happy.
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And what of the states where open carry is the only legal carry for "normal people"?
 
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JockoJohnson

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SaurusX said:
I'm a gun rights supporter, but I find open carry to be stupid. It doesn't benefit anyone to be shoving guns in the faces of people who might already be petrified of them. It's antagonistic. Out of sight out of mind and everyone's happy.
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Sort of like when theists shove religion in the face of others or when atheists shove their non-belief in the face of others? This society needs to get over the "I am offended, so you can't do X". Fucking bunch of pussies any more in this country.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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SaurusX said:
I'm a gun rights supporter, but I find open carry to be stupid. It doesn't benefit anyone to be shoving guns in the faces of people who might already be petrified of them. It's antagonistic. Out of sight out of mind and everyone's happy.
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Or open carry exposes people to the coexistence of weapons not being used in crimes against other people on a daily basis rather than a thought to be "gun free society" becoming the status quo.

Better that people GET comfortable with everyone else carrying a gun than to believe there are no guns thus its ok to ban them and to immediately fear evil when seeing one once in while.

People need to get used to guns and accept them as normal, rather than average Joe voter who may not care one way or another being used to and accepting NO guns as normal.

Its the same social engineering the media does every time they show a caption of a gun when reporting on crime, but the inverse.
 
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bshole

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Another feel good story for the gun lovers of America....

Police are continuing to investigate on Monday the shooting death of a 3-year-old girl at a Yellowstone National Park campground.

Park rangers said to CBS that they received a call from an Idaho woman on Saturday who said her daughter, 3, shot herself with a handgun in the Grant Village Campground. Emergency officials tried to resuscitate the child, but she died at the scene, CBS reported.
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Have to wonder if her parents are still in the pro-gun crowd.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/9/yellowstone-national-park-shooting-leaves-3-year-o/
 
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fskimospy

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exdeath said:
Or open carry exposes people to the coexistence of weapons not being used in crimes against other people on a daily basis rather than a thought to be "gun free society" becoming the status quo.

Better that people GET comfortable with everyone else carrying a gun than to believe there are no guns thus its ok to ban them and to immediately fear evil when seeing one once in while.

People need to get used to guns and accept them as normal, rather than average Joe voter who may not care one way or another being used to and accepting NO guns as normal.

Its the same social engineering the media does every time they show a caption of a gun when reporting on crime, but the inverse.
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There's no need for people to get used to guns and to accept them as normal. Most people don't want that in their lives, and the people who carry rifles into McDonalds or wherever are simply antisocial assholes.

If you want to increase awareness and acceptance of guns that's fine, but this is a pretty shitty way to do it.
 
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TerryMathews

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eskimospy said:
There's no need for people to get used to guns and to accept them as normal. Most people don't want that in their lives, and the people who carry rifles into McDonalds or wherever are simply antisocial assholes.

If you want to increase awareness and acceptance of guns that's fine, but this is a pretty shitty way to do it.
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There's plenty of need. People need to stop associating guns with danger. Your common citizen wasn't really afraid of guns until after Kennedy and King were assassinated.

Did you know, after WW2, you could buy a decommissioned M1911 pistol from the government, and receive it in the mail?

Amazing!
 
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fskimospy

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TerryMathews said:
There's plenty of need. People need to stop associating guns with danger. Your common citizen wasn't really afraid of guns until after Kennedy and King were assassinated.

Did you know, after WW2, you could buy a decommissioned M1911 pistol from the government, and receive it in the mail?

Amazing!
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Why do people need to stop associating guns with danger?
 
irishScott

irishScott

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bshole said:
Another feel good story for the gun lovers of America....



Have to wonder if her parents are still in the pro-gun crowd.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/9/yellowstone-national-park-shooting-leaves-3-year-o/
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Actually they probably are, although they're most certainly also very much in the "oh my God I'm a horribly negligent parent" camp.

It's funny how many people in such situations don't blame the gun, only outside observers with an axe to grind do that.
 
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TerryMathews

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eskimospy said:
Why do people need to stop associating guns with danger?
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Because they aren't going away, nor are they inherently dangerous.

Is your neighbor with a Glock on his hip more of a danger to you with that gun than without?

The person is dangerous. The tool is not. A person who means you harm will find a way to do it, whether it's with a knife, a rock, a gun, or a bomb.
 
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fskimospy

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TerryMathews said:
Because they aren't going away, nor are they inherently dangerous.

Is your neighbor with a Glock on his hip more of a danger to you with that gun than without?

The person is dangerous. The tool is not. A person who means you harm will find a way to do it, whether it's with a knife, a rock, a gun, or a bomb.
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That's obviously false. Of course guns are inherently dangerous. That is their entire purpose.

My neighbor with a Glock is absolutely more of a danger to me with that gun than without. My newly homicidal neighbor might wish to do me harm, but he will find it far more difficult to kill me with a rock than with a semiautomatic pistol. That's why we use guns in war and not rocks.

Something being inherently dangerous does not mean that it is not useful, however. Knives are inherently dangerous. A stove is inherently dangerous. Both of these can either grievously injure you or help you make dinner. In fact, one of the primary tenets of responsible gun ownership is never forgetting just how dangerous a gun is. Anyone who tells you that guns are not inherently dangerous is not responsible.

If you want to expand gun ownership rights that's fine, and if you think some gun control laws are silly or poorly implemented I'm with you. I would never for a second try to claim that guns aren't dangerous though, that's nonsense.
 
irishScott

irishScott

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TerryMathews said:
Because they aren't going away, nor are they inherently dangerous.

Is your neighbor with a Glock on his hip more of a danger to you with that gun than without?

The person is dangerous. The tool is not. A person who means you harm will find a way to do it, whether it's with a knife, a rock, a gun, or a bomb.
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I agree that guns should be more accepted, but a gun is inherently dangerous. There's a reason the 1st rule of gun safety is "don't point it, even unloaded, at anything you wouldn't want to shoot."

What we need to focus on is defeating the association of guns with murder, massacres and death.
 
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