$10 reward to help me find these speakers...

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Edit: Ok, nobody came up with anything, and I ran out of time, so reward is off.. thanks though!

Hey guys -

Maybe some of you web searching gurus can help me out.. I'm looking for the following:

B&W dm600i ($200ish)
B&W dm601 ($200)
B&W dm601s2 ($250)
B&W dm602 ($275)
B&W dm602s2 ($300)
B&W dm610i ($250)

Speakers. B&W is the brand. I'm looking for a used pair, cabinet condition does not matter all all, but must be fully functional. The list goes from most preferred (600i) to least preferred. $ amount indicates very roughly (within 30%) what I'd like to pay for a pair, used. I've searched all the places I can think of, and can't find any. This is for an odd project and yes, I'm pretty sure these are the ONLY models I'm interested in.

The "current" ideal model is dm601 (series 2) which I can pick up for about $350 NEW. So I'd like to stay considerably cheaper than that if at all possible. If I can get a 601 series 1, or even a 600 (same line but about 5 years old) I figure I can save some $$.

 

[Superdoopercooper]

Did you check AudioReview.com and AudioWeb.com? They have "for sale" forums, and you may be able to find a pair there. Also... posting a message on one of these places may lead you in the right direction.

You could also search for new pairs at "shopping.yahoo.com"... you may find some places that will sell.

P.S. Good choice on speaks. Have you ever checked out MONITOR AUDIO? They are a high quality speaker out of England... silky smooth... and there are some models in your price range!!! Let me know if you want more info.

 

[Farbio]

u won't be able to find a pair of these speakers new online unless u happen to luck into some on an fs/t forum new in box. otherwise, it is not possible. b&w, like most high end audio manufacturers does not allow web purchasing, instead wanting you to come listen to their product and buy it through one on one sales to develop the relationship.


edit: maybe if i had some sleep and maybe if i read your post correctly, i might respond more correctly.

 

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Cooper -

I did try both of those already, no luck. I'm hoping that somebody out in AT land will know of some other similar FS listings and might be able to find some.. thanks though!

 

[Viperoni]

Read the responses to your previous thread....

We all recommend NOT using those drivers, not only because Morel/Dynaudio/Focal/MB Quartz would be better for the harsh car environment, but because they're tuned for nearfield response like in a car......not the farfield like in a home stereo setup.
Just trying to save you a few bucks

 

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Viper, I'm sitting here staring at these drivers, and there is approximately zero visible difference between the home speakers and the car speakers. The one thing I'm concerned with is heat; I AM afraid that the high temps in the car could screw something up, melt an adhesive etc.. but that's a "well, we'll see" sort of issue. Otherwise I haven't heard any convincing reason why this shouldn't work just fine.

For what it's worth B&W actually manufactured a line of 'car speakers' once... which appear to be practically identical to their home speakers. (In fact their marketing literature specifically says "this is the same tweeter used in our reference home systems" or something to that effect. (look on their website: discontinued products)

I haven't yet heard any sub-$300 car speakers that sound really good. I had a pair of $300 quarts vs my $300 infinities at the time, and I didn't like the quarts any better so dropped the infinities in. For some reason there seems to be a huge price gap - $200-300 for a mediocre set of components and then $600-$700 for a "really good set". This is absurd, there's no way I'm going to pay $700 for 4 drivers and a crossover, especially when I have a buddy who used to work in the industry and I know what the markup is like.

I just want to try something different - and if I can pull it off for a reasonable amount, I figure it's worth the effort. Stupid me, I actually sold a pair of 600s, the exact speakers I need - about 6 months ago.

 

[Viperoni]

The drivers in B&W speakers aren't all the great either, I have no doubt that a Morel or Dynaudio set would be able to dust them aside at will.



<< n fact their marketing literature specifically says "this is the same tweeter used in our reference home systems" or something to that effect. >>



I'd like to see it survive an Arizona summer or a Canadian winter

The markups are pretty high on components, but even more so on speaekrs, and brutally high on subwoofers (home).

Anyhoo, I hope it works out whatever you end up doing

 

[geno]

<< Viper, I'm sitting here staring at these drivers, and there is approximately zero visible difference between the home speakers and the car speakers >>


no offense, but that doesn't mean much

 

[flot]

Well Geno, I say that only because there seems to be some popular opinion that "car stuff" doesn't work as "house stuff" and vice-versa... What I meant to illustrate is that it's not like the infinity speakers ("made for the car") had any sort of obvious external protection, considering that they would be exposed to heat, cold, moisture, impact, etc, etc. In fact, between the two, the home speaker actually looks better equipped to be used in a harsh environment. Obviously that doesn't mean much if it melts, but otherwise...

 

[flot]

Well, thanks for the opinions guys. I couldn't find any speakers, and I kind of need these right away - so I picked up some of the B&W car components (New Old Stock) instead. I'll be sure to report my findings with respect to how they compare to the B&W home
drivers, since my suspicion is that they're probably virtually identical.

 

[Viperoni]

sometimes the differences can't be seen...like maybe a different cone or foam coating, or better voice coil former or stuff like that.
and if there is no difference, I'd be willing to bet the manufacturer was too lazy to treat the speakers properly....or that they're tested to be durable enough to survive the conditions.