10 Reasons Why PS3 Will Win This Console Generation

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are really retarded. It is my opinion (once again) remember what an opinion is? that the Wii is a gimmick. Just because everyone else said the DS was a gimmick (I don't remember reading that personally) doesn't mean I felt that way. I bought one because it has a ton of good games, games that are good for plain rides and the like. The Wii's games are good in their own right too (party games and all that) but personally, I don't invite a lot of friends over and play video games. I go out when I want to hang out with a bunch of people, when I spend time by myself I play video games. Thats just me, I don't expect the whole world to agree, nor do I care. However, I do believe that more and more people will realize that the Wii is only good for that one thing and sales will fall off very soon. Again, thats my opinion.

See, everyone makes assumptions about what games will come out for the Wii, and they use that to dismiss the Wii. Give it time! With the Wii's enormous popularity, third party developers are devoting a lot of effort to it. Nintendo is encouraging more mature games this time. If the Wii continues to sell well, I'd count on seeing GTA games on it.

Thats actually the best point thus far for me. I don't believe this will happen, I don't think there will be mature games in my vein on the system but its possible. Games like GoW if they show on the Wii will attract me. If nintendo is truly encouraging that then I'd really like some links or something about games of this nature (not that I dont believe you, just that I am a pretty hardcore gamer so im interested).

Well I guess you are just SSSSOOOOO mature. Too mature to play with the Wii. :roll:

I like how you didn't respond to this thread until someone finally agreed with you.

And yes, we know that what you type is your opinion. Most of what people say on an OT forum is opinion unless backed by facts.

Thats the funny thing I noticed. The people I know that didnt really dig the Wii were the ones with sticks far enough up their ass that they were "too cool" for it.

I've been playing video games my whole life. I'm maturing out of "mature" games. I'm sick and tired of every game revolving around swords, guns, fighting and death. I dont care if theres blood and gore anymore. It was awesome when I was 15, but I'm just too old for that sh*t to matter now. All I want is a good game. Shooters are still great and all, but I've been longing for something original, and its pretty damn fun if you can get over yourself and how "hardcore" you are. Because I would hesistate to call anyone a hardcore gamer who is completely against innovation, and just wants to see more guns and blood.

But anyways, you want mature wii games, so here you go:

Doesnt get more "mature":
Godfather
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Red Steel

Pretty damn "mature":
Madden
Medal of Honor Vanguard
Call of Duty 3
Heatseeker
Tiger Woods
Far Cry
Blazing Angels
Need for Speed Carbon

Arguably mature as well:
Trauma Center
SSX Blur

This shortage of "mature" games is entirely in your head.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: randomlinh
I'm all for the wii kicking the PS3's but, but why is everyone gung ho on changing AMDZen's opinion? He doesn't like the gameset on the Wii...

However, why does a hardcore gamer have to like mature games? What is a "game like GoW?" That's an honest question. All I got out of GoW was a graphically intense (in a good way) FPS. I dunno about the storyline, but let's say it's great. Why is that hardcore? Why wouldn't playing boggle/scrabble every night be "hardcore" too? While we're at it... does "mature" = violent?[/quote]

GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.

 

[Safeway]

Blah, blah, blah. Wrong forum. This post goes in the Fanboy forum.

Actually, come to think about it, there is no Fanboy forum. Whoops, guess there's no room for any of this bullsh!t.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BD2003

I'm maturing out of "mature" games. I'm sick and tired of every game revolving around swords, guns, fighting and death. I dont care if theres blood and gore anymore. It was awesome when I was 15, but I'm just too old for that sh*t to matter now.

I'm the same way. :laugh: When I was a kid, the Mortal Kombat blood code (ABACABB) was the coolest thing in the world. Now... meh. I can enjoy "kids" games like Mario Kart and Mario Tennis just as much or more than their "mature" counterparts. I like a game that makes me think like Fire Emblem more than a game filled with gore.

I do like some of those mature games too, like the GTA game (or genre if you will)

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BD2003

I'm maturing out of "mature" games. I'm sick and tired of every game revolving around swords, guns, fighting and death. I dont care if theres blood and gore anymore. It was awesome when I was 15, but I'm just too old for that sh*t to matter now.

I'm the same way. :laugh: When I was a kid, the Mortal Kombat blood code (ABACABB) was the coolest thing in the world. Now... meh. I can enjoy "kids" games like Mario Kart and Mario Tennis just as much or more than their "mature" counterparts. I like a game that makes me think like Fire Emblem more than a game filled with gore.

I do like some of those mature games too, like the GTA game (or genre if you will)

GTA is a damn fine game after all. I still regret never picking up fire emblem though, even though I get very heavy recommendations for it. So many games, so little time.

You certainly have to give it up to sony and then microsoft for making video games cool though. 10 years ago, I would have never imagined that would have happened.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: randomlinh
I'm all for the wii kicking the PS3's but, but why is everyone gung ho on changing AMDZen's opinion? He doesn't like the gameset on the Wii...

However, why does a hardcore gamer have to like mature games? What is a "game like GoW?" That's an honest question. All I got out of GoW was a graphically intense (in a good way) FPS. I dunno about the storyline, but let's say it's great. Why is that hardcore? Why wouldn't playing boggle/scrabble every night be "hardcore" too? While we're at it... does "mature" = violent?

It's not his opinion that's bugging me (or anyone for all I know).

It's his attitude.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: BD2003
GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.

I agree about GoW. GoW is a lot deeper of a game than one may see at first glance. I also didn't realize how in depth the game was until I got better and played with good people.

I almost would say the game isn't even an action game but is more of a strategy/tactical game. GoW is truly a game that REQUIRES teamwork if you want to win. If every man goes and does their own thing, they are guaranteed to lose if playing against a good team.

I don't know if I would put GoW as the best console multi experience ever, but it's definitely the best on Xbox360. I just can't compare GoW to how much I played Halo 2 when it first came out. I'm really hoping Halo 3 does the same thing for me.

 

[GoingUp]

No one can touch the Wii's game play.

I bought an Xbox 360 and after my friend brought over his Wii I sold the Xbox360 because it isnt even close in gameplay experience to the Wii.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: BD2003
GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.

I agree about GoW. GoW is a lot deeper of a game than one may see at first glance. I also didn't realize how in depth the game was until I got better and played with good people.

I almost would say the game isn't even an action game but is more of a strategy/tactical game. GoW is truly a game that REQUIRES teamwork if you want to win. If every man goes and does their own thing, they are guaranteed to lose if playing against a good team.

I don't know if I would put GoW as the best console multi experience ever, but it's definitely the best on Xbox360. I just can't compare GoW to how much I played Halo 2 when it first came out. I'm really hoping Halo 3 does the same thing for me.

Well, thats exactly the thing about GoW. It requires teamwork and cooperation, just as you said. Halo 2 on the other hand isnt quite in the same vein, its more like a PC FPS that was tweaked to play well on consoles. And for those types of games, Id rather just play a PC FPS. I never really thought Halo 1 or 2 was anything special.

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: BD2003
GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.

I agree about GoW. GoW is a lot deeper of a game than one may see at first glance. I also didn't realize how in depth the game was until I got better and played with good people.

I almost would say the game isn't even an action game but is more of a strategy/tactical game. GoW is truly a game that REQUIRES teamwork if you want to win. If every man goes and does their own thing, they are guaranteed to lose if playing against a good team.

I don't know if I would put GoW as the best console multi experience ever, but it's definitely the best on Xbox360. I just can't compare GoW to how much I played Halo 2 when it first came out. I'm really hoping Halo 3 does the same thing for me.

Well, thats exactly the thing about GoW. It requires teamwork and cooperation, just as you said. Halo 2 on the other hand isnt quite in the same vein, its more like a PC FPS that was tweaked to play well on consoles. And for those types of games, Id rather just play a PC FPS. I never really thought Halo 1 or 2 was anything special.

I agree with what you said about GoW. I'm also gonna add that, although I've never been a Halo fan, I'm probably going to play Halo 3 simply because Microsoft and Bungie have invested so much into it. The hype is enormous and the expectations are great. And Bungie's probably got the budget to fill it. So I gotta see what they can pull off. There's a lot riding on Halo 3.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Dacalo
A lot of people are enjoying the Wii. But I guess I am a minority... I ended up selling mine. Zelda was great, but after that... well... nothing really. I consider myself somewhere between a casual and hardcore gamer.

Your not the minority. As I've said, everyone I know who bought a Wii has either sold it or has it sitting around collecting dust right now.

Originally posted by: Azurik
You forgot to mention Super Smash Brothers, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros., etc. etc. etc.

This just proves my point that the Wii doesn't have a single good looking game that isn't made by Nintendo - or that won't be on the 360 or PS3 any way. Frankly, I get enough of my Mario/Zelda fix on my DS - and I never got into Metroid once it went FPS - the only franchise that I still get into that should probably be dead by now is FF. I heard Square Enix could make an exclusive FF title for the Wii along the lines of Crystal Chronicles. Because that worked out so well on the GC.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randomlinh
I'm all for the wii kicking the PS3's but, but why is everyone gung ho on changing AMDZen's opinion? He doesn't like the gameset on the Wii...

However, why does a hardcore gamer have to like mature games? What is a "game like GoW?" That's an honest question. All I got out of GoW was a graphically intense (in a good way) FPS. I dunno about the storyline, but let's say it's great. Why is that hardcore? Why wouldn't playing boggle/scrabble every night be "hardcore" too? While we're at it... does "mature" = violent?

GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.[/quote]


thats a load of BS

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: BD2003
GoW is one of the finest multiplayer games ever created...as long as youre playing with friends, and only friends. No other FPS game has ever been able to recreate the tactical essence of a great paintball game like GoW has. Its bloody and violent and all that, but underneath the pretty graphics and gore there is quite a unique and impressive game.

IMO a hardcore gamer is one who primarily appreciates a game for the gameplay, not its graphics or how "cool" it is. But back in the days when I started playing, video games were for nerds. Now that its mainstream, things seem to have changed quite a bit. There's nerd games and "mature" games, and some people just dont want to be associated with the other camp. Maybe AMDzen is like that, maybe he isnt, but I've sure ran across many people like that, and it sounds like he fits the mold.

Wait, what mold do I fit. Obviously you haven't read what I've been saying if you think I'm only into mature games or only nerdy games. What would you describe FF games as? I have about 98 hours in FF XII right now and I'm probably only half way done since I always try to get everything. I consider FF nerdy, especially when trying to collect everything in the damn game. Show me a single game on the Wii that has anywhere close to 150-200 hours worth of game play on it. Frankly, there are none nor will there be anytime soon. Show me a single good RPG released on a Nintendo system. I haven't seen one since super nintendo personally, but thats maybe just my taste. Some people may have liked FF CC, although I'm sure they were all 10 yo. Oblivion could have single handedly secured a 360 in my house, but every game I want to play on the 360 is currently on the PC so I don't need to buy a 360.

I consider nearly all RPG's to be nerdy, and they're my favorite genre of video games. Next up is the GTA type games or the GoW / DMC type games which is why I think Heavenly Sword looks ......well, heavenly. So yea, I do like mature games but not simply for the gore, because these are some of the best games bar none to ever see the light of day. Maybe I miss understood you but you obviously didn't read what I've said thus far or you simply chose to have selective reading if you think i fit into either camp exclusively

EDIT: It should be noted that I was talking about God of War and not Gears of War. Now that GoW is an acronymn for both. So, in my posts I was referring to God of War, the second or the 3rd installment. Just to clarify.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Dacalo
A lot of people are enjoying the Wii. But I guess I am a minority... I ended up selling mine. Zelda was great, but after that... well... nothing really. I consider myself somewhere between a casual and hardcore gamer.

Your not the minority. As I've said, everyone I know who bought a Wii has either sold it or has it sitting around collecting dust right now.

Originally posted by: Azurik
You forgot to mention Super Smash Brothers, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros., etc. etc. etc.

This just proves my point that the Wii doesn't have a single good looking game that isn't made by Nintendo - or that won't be on the 360 or PS3 any way. Frankly, I get enough of my Mario/Zelda fix on my DS - and I never got into Metroid once it went FPS - the only franchise that I still get into that should probably be dead by now is FF. I heard Square Enix could make an exclusive FF title for the Wii along the lines of Crystal Chronicles. Because that worked out so well on the GC.

In all seriousness AMDZen ... you truly are missing out if you haven't played Metroid Prime. If you have any way to play it, I could scoop it up. That is by far definitely up there as one of the single best games I've ever played. And it doesn't really feel like your typical FPS by any means.

I'm worried how MP3 will play on the Wii though after trying Red Steel and realizing that FPS may not work out that well on the Wii.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Dacalo
A lot of people are enjoying the Wii. But I guess I am a minority... I ended up selling mine. Zelda was great, but after that... well... nothing really. I consider myself somewhere between a casual and hardcore gamer.

Your not the minority. As I've said, everyone I know who bought a Wii has either sold it or has it sitting around collecting dust right now.

Originally posted by: Azurik
You forgot to mention Super Smash Brothers, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros., etc. etc. etc.

This just proves my point that the Wii doesn't have a single good looking game that isn't made by Nintendo - or that won't be on the 360 or PS3 any way. Frankly, I get enough of my Mario/Zelda fix on my DS - and I never got into Metroid once it went FPS - the only franchise that I still get into that should probably be dead by now is FF. I heard Square Enix could make an exclusive FF title for the Wii along the lines of Crystal Chronicles. Because that worked out so well on the GC.

In all seriousness AMDZen ... you truly are missing out if you haven't played Metroid Prime. If you have any way to play it, I could scoop it up. That is by far definitely up there as one of the single best games I've ever played. And it doesn't really feel like your typical FPS by any means.

I'm worried how MP3 will play on the Wii though after trying Red Steel and realizing that FPS may not work out that well on the Wii.

I completely agree with you here. I've tried the latest Metroid on the DS and I didn't get that into it, I think Mrime was about the same thing (although released first). BTW, I heard the Wii plays GC games right? With that slot load I'd think inserting those small discs might not work. Looking for confirmation on that.

For some reason the only FPS game I've really ever liked on the console was Halo. Namely playing CoOp on a projector. And unlike everyone else it seems, I enjoyed it more when it was finally ported to the PC because I'm a KB and mouse FPS player. It just turns me off when I play it on a console and can get frustrated easily. Its a shame CoD 3 hasn't come to the PC because I have to try and play it on the PS2 instead and I get frustrated often. Instead I'll pull out CS:S or CoD2 on the PC or something to relieve my stress/anger over using a controller to play an FPS.

I'm not sure why Halo was different. I know it kind of makes no sense but it was. BTW, I couldn't stand Halo 2 - I was very T'd off after I bought it and never came close to finishing it.

In all seriousness, who knows though I think with the price of the Wii and if it drops say in a year or so - I may get one. And in all honesty, it will be mostly because of reasons that I can't really say or I might get a vacation, but have you seen all the cool stuff getting released for the Wii? A lot of people say you don't even need a mod chip, kind of like the softmod for xbox I guess. I'll definetely be interested in that kind of thing as its the only reason i bought an xbox

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I completely agree with you here. I've tried the latest Metroid on the DS and I didn't get that into it, I think Mrime was about the same thing (although released first). BTW, I heard the Wii plays GC games right? With that slot load I'd think inserting those small discs might not work. Looking for confirmation on that.

For some reason the only FPS game I've really ever liked on the console was Halo. Namely playing CoOp on a projector. And unlike everyone else it seems, I enjoyed it more when it was finally ported to the PC because I'm a KB and mouse FPS player. It just turns me off when I play it on a console and can get frustrated easily. Its a shame CoD 3 hasn't come to the PC because I have to try and play it on the PS2 instead and I get frustrated often. Instead I'll pull out CS:S or CoD2 on the PC or something to relieve my stress/anger over using a controller to play an FPS.

I'm not sure why Halo was different. I know it kind of makes no sense but it was. BTW, I couldn't stand Halo 2 - I was very T'd off after I bought it and never came close to finishing it.

In all seriousness, who knows though I think with the price of the Wii and if it drops say in a year or so - I may get one. And in all honesty, it will be mostly because of reasons that I can't really say or I might get a vacation, but have you seen all the cool stuff getting released for the Wii? A lot of people say you don't even need a mod chip, kind of like the softmod for xbox I guess. I'll definetely be interested in that kind of thing as its the only reason i bought an xbox

Yes Wii plays GC games just fine, I have a few.

I also think the reason you liked Halo on Xbox as the only console FPS is for one of the major reasons that game is so successful - that game is BUILT for a console and is by FAR the best controlling FPS on a console to date. You state that you have issues controlling FPS on a console, and considering you liked Halo, I'm assuming you could control it just fine. And that's because it is tailored for a console and the control in that game is just prestine.

I personally thought it sucked on the PC when I tried it out because I thought the control w/a KB/M didn't fit Halo style of gameplay. The way on a controller you press and hold Y to swap weapons just didn't feel right on the PC. I'm used to pressing 1,2,3, etc to get which weapon I want. But only holding 2 on the weapons in Halo kind of nullifies that need.

Also the aiming controls are top notch on the Xbox version. They have JUST the perfect amount of "aim assist" to the point that you don't really notice it (in HALO:CE, but in Halo 2 the aim assist was DEFINITELY very noticeable as the game was noobified to all hell).

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I completely agree with you here. I've tried the latest Metroid on the DS and I didn't get that into it, I think Mrime was about the same thing (although released first). BTW, I heard the Wii plays GC games right? With that slot load I'd think inserting those small discs might not work. Looking for confirmation on that.

For some reason the only FPS game I've really ever liked on the console was Halo. Namely playing CoOp on a projector. And unlike everyone else it seems, I enjoyed it more when it was finally ported to the PC because I'm a KB and mouse FPS player. It just turns me off when I play it on a console and can get frustrated easily. Its a shame CoD 3 hasn't come to the PC because I have to try and play it on the PS2 instead and I get frustrated often. Instead I'll pull out CS:S or CoD2 on the PC or something to relieve my stress/anger over using a controller to play an FPS.

I'm not sure why Halo was different. I know it kind of makes no sense but it was. BTW, I couldn't stand Halo 2 - I was very T'd off after I bought it and never came close to finishing it.

In all seriousness, who knows though I think with the price of the Wii and if it drops say in a year or so - I may get one. And in all honesty, it will be mostly because of reasons that I can't really say or I might get a vacation, but have you seen all the cool stuff getting released for the Wii? A lot of people say you don't even need a mod chip, kind of like the softmod for xbox I guess. I'll definetely be interested in that kind of thing as its the only reason i bought an xbox

Yes Wii plays GC games just fine, I have a few.

I also think the reason you liked Halo on Xbox as the only console FPS is for one of the major reasons that game is so successful - that game is BUILT for a console and is by FAR the best controlling FPS on a console to date. You state that you have issues controlling FPS on a console, and considering you liked Halo, I'm assuming you could control it just fine. And that's because it is tailored for a console and the control in that game is just prestine.

I personally thought it sucked on the PC when I tried it out because I thought the control w/a KB/M didn't fit Halo style of gameplay. The way on a controller you press and hold Y to swap weapons just didn't feel right on the PC. I'm used to pressing 1,2,3, etc to get which weapon I want. But only holding 2 on the weapons in Halo kind of nullifies that need.

Also the aiming controls are top notch on the Xbox version. They have JUST the perfect amount of "aim assist" to the point that you don't really notice it (in HALO:CE, but in Halo 2 the aim assist was DEFINITELY very noticeable as the game was noobified to all hell).

I'll tell you what. I have a friend that has a GC and a Wii and he has brought it over once or twice (although it was back when if first came out). He is cool so he'll let me borrow it for a week or so. I'll have him bring Metroid Prime next time so I can try it. The only game I really liked on the GC was Zelda and that Darkness game, FF CC was fun for about 2 hours and only when there was 3 or 4 of us (I can't remember if it was 3 or 4 player). And of course Smash Brothers and WarioWare was pretty cool too. I think I remember trying Prime but maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance.

Another question: can you use the WiiMote for GC games? Or do you just use the controller accessory. I would prefer to use the old school controller any way, but I'm curious if it works.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I completely agree with you here. I've tried the latest Metroid on the DS and I didn't get that into it, I think Mrime was about the same thing (although released first). BTW, I heard the Wii plays GC games right? With that slot load I'd think inserting those small discs might not work. Looking for confirmation on that.

For some reason the only FPS game I've really ever liked on the console was Halo. Namely playing CoOp on a projector. And unlike everyone else it seems, I enjoyed it more when it was finally ported to the PC because I'm a KB and mouse FPS player. It just turns me off when I play it on a console and can get frustrated easily. Its a shame CoD 3 hasn't come to the PC because I have to try and play it on the PS2 instead and I get frustrated often. Instead I'll pull out CS:S or CoD2 on the PC or something to relieve my stress/anger over using a controller to play an FPS.

I'm not sure why Halo was different. I know it kind of makes no sense but it was. BTW, I couldn't stand Halo 2 - I was very T'd off after I bought it and never came close to finishing it.

In all seriousness, who knows though I think with the price of the Wii and if it drops say in a year or so - I may get one. And in all honesty, it will be mostly because of reasons that I can't really say or I might get a vacation, but have you seen all the cool stuff getting released for the Wii? A lot of people say you don't even need a mod chip, kind of like the softmod for xbox I guess. I'll definetely be interested in that kind of thing as its the only reason i bought an xbox

Yes Wii plays GC games just fine, I have a few.

I also think the reason you liked Halo on Xbox as the only console FPS is for one of the major reasons that game is so successful - that game is BUILT for a console and is by FAR the best controlling FPS on a console to date. You state that you have issues controlling FPS on a console, and considering you liked Halo, I'm assuming you could control it just fine. And that's because it is tailored for a console and the control in that game is just prestine.

I personally thought it sucked on the PC when I tried it out because I thought the control w/a KB/M didn't fit Halo style of gameplay. The way on a controller you press and hold Y to swap weapons just didn't feel right on the PC. I'm used to pressing 1,2,3, etc to get which weapon I want. But only holding 2 on the weapons in Halo kind of nullifies that need.

Also the aiming controls are top notch on the Xbox version. They have JUST the perfect amount of "aim assist" to the point that you don't really notice it (in HALO:CE, but in Halo 2 the aim assist was DEFINITELY very noticeable as the game was noobified to all hell).

I'll tell you what. I have a friend that has a GC and a Wii and he has brought it over once or twice (although it was back when if first came out). He is cool so he'll let me borrow it for a week or so. I'll have him bring Metroid Prime next time so I can try it. The only game I really liked on the GC was Zelda and that Darkness game, FF CC was fun for about 2 hours and only when there was 3 or 4 of us (I can't remember if it was 3 or 4 player). And of course Smash Brothers and WarioWare was pretty cool too. I think I remember trying Prime but maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance.

Another question: can you use the WiiMote for GC games? Or do you just use the controller accessory. I would prefer to use the old school controller any way, but I'm curious if it works.

GC games require a GC controller

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The top 10 reasons why the PS3 is failing:
1: $599 PS3
2: $499 PS3
3: $300 loss
4: $240 loss
5: $250 Wii
6: $400 360
7: $300 360
8: Zelda:TP
9: Halo 3 (soon)
10: $130 PS2

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Dacalo
A lot of people are enjoying the Wii. But I guess I am a minority... I ended up selling mine. Zelda was great, but after that... well... nothing really. I consider myself somewhere between a casual and hardcore gamer.

Your not the minority. As I've said, everyone I know who bought a Wii has either sold it or has it sitting around collecting dust right now.

OF COURSE he's in the minority, so are your friends.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: pontifex
GC games require a GC controller

Ahhh that really sucks. Part of the reason I never wanted a GC was because of that horrid controller. I didn't think it could get worse after N64. I know, people say you get used to it - but I never did. I thought the new Wii classic controller was a huge improvement since it was like an SNES controller with the analog sticks a la PS2.

Not cool.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: pontifex
GC games require a GC controller

Ahhh that really sucks. Part of the reason I never wanted a GC was because of that horrid controller. I didn't think it could get worse after N64. I know, people say you get used to it - but I never did. I thought the new Wii classic controller was a huge improvement since it was like an SNES controller with the analog sticks a la PS2.

Not cool.

Heh you just sound like you don't like getting used to new things. You don't play FPS on console cause it's too tough to control for you, and you didn't play any GC games because you couldn't get used to the controller.

Baby

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: pontifex
GC games require a GC controller

Ahhh that really sucks. Part of the reason I never wanted a GC was because of that horrid controller. I didn't think it could get worse after N64. I know, people say you get used to it - but I never did. I thought the new Wii classic controller was a huge improvement since it was like an SNES controller with the analog sticks a la PS2.

Not cool.

What don't you like about the GC controller? It's pretty much the same feel as the Xbox S controller, except the buttons aren't all the same size and shape. I actually like that, because there are always some actions you perform more frequently than others in games. I like being able to remember what button does what by feel and not by position. That's one reason I liked the SNES controller so much - X and Y were concave, A and B were convex. It made it very easy to remember which button did what.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: pontifex
GC games require a GC controller

Ahhh that really sucks. Part of the reason I never wanted a GC was because of that horrid controller. I didn't think it could get worse after N64. I know, people say you get used to it - but I never did. I thought the new Wii classic controller was a huge improvement since it was like an SNES controller with the analog sticks a la PS2.

Not cool.

What don't you like about the GC controller? It's pretty much the same feel as the Xbox S controller, except the buttons aren't all the same size and shape. I actually like that, because there are always some actions you perform more frequently than others in games. I like being able to remember what button does what by feel and not by position. That's one reason I liked the SNES controller so much - X and Y were concave, A and B were convex. It made it very easy to remember which button did what.

I agree which is why I like the Wii controller, the SNES controller was the best. I couldn't stand the GC controller for the reasons you assumed, the different size buttons. I seem to remember that a lot of people shared my opinion on that.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: mugs
What don't you like about the GC controller? It's pretty much the same feel as the Xbox S controller, except the buttons aren't all the same size and shape. I actually like that, because there are always some actions you perform more frequently than others in games. I like being able to remember what button does what by feel and not by position. That's one reason I liked the SNES controller so much - X and Y were concave, A and B were convex. It made it very easy to remember which button did what.

I have to disagree here. The Cube controller is nothing at all like the S. I don't like the shape with the narrow handles. The face button size and arrangement is retarted and cripples games like fighters. Triggers aren't smooth, they feel cheap, and the catch point half way through is pointless. The Z-button just doesn't feel right and access to it can be hindered at times due to how the R-trigger sticks out on top. The Z-button should have also had a counterpart on the other side, but its like Nintendo said, "Well, Sony already has 4 shoulder buttons, and we do want to appear to be copying anyone, so we'll just put 3 shoulder buttons and look original!!" The d-pad is absurdly small. The right analog stick was pointlessly made into a nub when it should have been just like the left analog stick. Both sticks should have had buttons underneath them like the S and PS2 Dual Shock. IMO, virtually nothing was done right with the Cube controller.... well, they did get the d-pad and left analog stick in the correct positions. That's something Sony can't seem to figure out. Other than that, I hate it. They basically made a controller for Zelda, all other games be damned.

So, yeah, I disagree