10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[LegendKiller]

Christians back in the day were more militant than the muslims were.
Just sayin...

Yeah, tell that to Charles Martel. Without him there'd only be Muslims in the world.

It's sad how little people know of history.

 

[Thebobo]

Come to think of it... Even if you look at our mass shooters here in the U.S... Can you tell me which ones did it in the name of Jesus? Because they were morally outraged? Because they were also devote Christians?

The answer my friend you'll find is pretty much none of these murderous losers were devote in any religion and even if they were identified with a particular church, did not commit their killings with religious bent.

McVeigh the OKC bomber wasn't acting on religious beliefs. But oh wait... The Boston Marathon Bombers were... But they were Muslim. Ahem...

Perhaps the only killings you'll find with religious influence to them are those of serial killers, and those that have murdered their own families... But none of those are mass shootings are they?

Wearing blindars again? Abortion clinic bombings and killings of doctors.

 

[shortylickens]

Wearing blindars again? Abortion clinic bombings and killings of doctors.

We're talking about what is happening today, right now. Thats the subject of this thread.

Its been a long time since anyone has bombed a clinic.

 

[JimmiG]

My heart goes out to the people of France.

Unfortunately, things like this will be commonplace in Europe in the future. The EU should have shut the borders when the conflict in the Middle East intensified, but instead we opened the borders and import thousands of potential terrorists every day with no screening or background checks at all. It's incredibly naive to believe that all those refugees will forget their true nature and live normal, civilized lives just because they're welcomed to a new country.

This is the beginning of the next great war in Europe.

 

[DrunkenSano]

If they are suppose to be a religion of peace, why won't the good and proper Muslims all rise up in outcry at such atrocities? They should be teaching, loudly, all over the world in their temples that this is wrong. Publish multiple articles world wide to condemn these extremists, and denounce these types of actions. That would truly be supporting peace, their silence could easily be mistaken as silent support for terrorism.

 

[WackyDan]

Wearing blindars again? Abortion clinic bombings and killings of doctors.

Ah!!!! You got me there. Those average what? One a year? Fair point, but generally not the headline news items I think the original post was referring to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States

 

[brandonb]

You have no sympathy for a dozen people killed for writing things in a paper? I guess you don't support the freedom of the press or the 1st amendment in this country, either.

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

 

[rudder]

Christians back in the day were more militant than the muslims were.
Just sayin...

Spot on comparison. People do not realize that our lives in 2015 really mimic those who lived in the 11th century.

 

[rudder]

Wearing blindars again? Abortion clinic bombings and killings of doctors.

Really? Nearly twice as many people were killed in that attack in France than in the last two decades of anti-abortion violence here in the U.S.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Where's our resident apologetic for the defense of the religion of peace (tm)? Come on, use that lame "vast majority of Muslims don't kill because just like the other religions" argument already!

 

[DesiPower]

They have let simply too many "immigrants" in... its their own fault. France and Germany have provided a breeding ground from were they can now attack the entire west, this is just a beginning.

 

[Subyman]

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

I see what you are saying, "touching the hornets nest" and all, but I think you extend it too far. I certainly feel bad for those folks that were killed and they absolutely had the right to publish whatever they wanted. The cowards that came in strapped with guns and murdered unarmed people sitting in office chairs are reprehensible. Being offended by a cartoon and mass murder are in a completely different league.

Having no sympathy for people who exercise their freedoms and then are mass murdered by lawlessness seems like a strange thing to admit.

 

[mmntech]

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

I don't comment in P&N often but as someone who works in the media industry, this post just made me angry. Nobody should die for voicing their opinion, or just going to work. It almost sounds like you're condoning their deaths. I certainly hope that's not the case. I'm going to assume this is just some poor attempt at sarcastic humor because no sensible person could be that big an asshole.

I guess I don't understand how anybody could possibly defend such barbarism. Especially the "enlightened" and "progressive" western socialists who always seem so quick to do so. These are the same folks who stone gays and cut people's heads off for praying to the wrong god. Even if you don't agree with US or Israeli policy in the Middle East, it's impossible for any right minded human being to justify that.

 

[StrangerGuy]

You have no sympathy for a dozen people killed for writing things in a paper? I guess you don't support the freedom of the press or the 1st amendment in this country, either. If I tell a paper I don't like them talking about cars and they post an article about a car and I attack them, that is not their "arrogance", as you blame it on the French paper here.

This is very similar--minus the killing--to the threats over The Interview we had in the a US last month. We can never tolerate people threatening violence over movies, paper articles, books, or music.

Anybody who believe violence, no matter how slight, is justifiable against any criticism should irrevocably surrender their right to freedom of speech so said dumbasses can get a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Jaskalas]

Some background.

The Islamization of France in 2013

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said he was "shocked" by an RTL Radio report which estimated that more than 40,000 cars are burned in France every year.

Although no official data exist, more than half of the inmates in French prisons are believed to be Muslim, rising to 70% in some urban areas. This disproportionate ratio, coupled with overcrowding and overtaxed guards, makes young Muslims in French prisons easy prey for jihadist recruiters, according to guards, prison directors, ex-inmates, chaplains and crime experts interviewed by Reuters.

 

[NTMBK]

I guess I don't understand how anybody could possibly defend such barbarism. Especially the "enlightened" and "progressive" western socialists who always seem so quick to do so. These are the same folks who stone gays and cut people's heads off for praying to the wrong god. Even if you don't agree with US or Israeli policy in the Middle East, it's impossible for any right minded human being to justify that.

If I came across as defending the people who committed these crimes, I apologise- they are clearly murderous assholes who deserve to be caught and punished for their crimes. But seeing that the first four replies were racist BS about a "Muslim problem", I couldn't really ignore it.

France has a hell of a lot of Muslims, the vast majority of whom are not murderous assholes. Punish the murderers, not the innocent.

 

[Kadarin]

The world has a Muslim problem.

Yes, indeed it does.

 

[BoberFett]

This story must be fake. France has strict laws on gun and ammo ownership.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Wearing blindars again? Abortion clinic bombings and killings of doctors.

Seek help.

 

[DesiPower]

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

You are trolling right?

 

[StrangerGuy]

France has a hell of a lot of Muslims, the vast majority of whom are not murderous assholes. Punish the murderers, not the innocent.

Yeah, because Islam is the only religion in the world with the vast majority of followers who are not murderous assholes and living hellish lives elsewhere in the world especially under, surprise, majority Muslim rule.

 

[rudder]

They have let simply too many "immigrants" in... its their own fault. France and Germany have provided a breeding ground from were they can now attack the entire west, this is just a beginning.

Well west to the Atlantic. Here in Tennessee we are packing heat and shoot back.

 

[rudder]

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

So it's okay to take out Bill Maher then?

 

[TechBoyJK]

am I allowed to post this?

 

[Sonikku]

Masked gunnmen running around screaming allahu akbar.

It's a trap.