10-22-08: Pharmacies across country refusing to sell any contraceptives

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
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#1 My point is that if you could just go to the store next door then fine, stock what you want, but when you are licensed and #2 regulated by the state that limits the number of stores that can carry these products As such doesn't it make sense that the state should require them to fill all legal prescriptions? If they don't have it on hand (everybody runs out of stuff occasionally) then order it in for them. Since there aren't pharmacies on every street corner flat out refusing to fill a legal prescription is ludicrous IMO.

Do everybody a favor and let someone else run the pharmacy.

If you don't want to sell alcohol then don't get the license. If you don't want to sell drugs then don't get the license

1. If you bothered to google, you'd see that there are other pharmacies in the same freakin plaza that DO sell BC.

2. For the umpteen time, pharmacy licenses are not limited (unlike those for taxicabs etc).

Fern

I'm not worried about how many pharmacies are available in Virgina. I don't live there. I'm worried about some whacko religious nutjob moving to my area and pulling this crap.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
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#1 My point is that if you could just go to the store next door then fine, stock what you want, but when you are licensed and #2 regulated by the state that limits the number of stores that can carry these products As such doesn't it make sense that the state should require them to fill all legal prescriptions? If they don't have it on hand (everybody runs out of stuff occasionally) then order it in for them. Since there aren't pharmacies on every street corner flat out refusing to fill a legal prescription is ludicrous IMO.

Do everybody a favor and let someone else run the pharmacy.

If you don't want to sell alcohol then don't get the license. If you don't want to sell drugs then don't get the license

1. If you bothered to google, you'd see that there are other pharmacies in the same freakin plaza that DO sell BC.

2. For the umpteen time, pharmacy licenses are not limited (unlike those for taxicabs etc).

Fern

I'm not worried about how many pharmacies are available in Virgina. I don't live there. I'm worried about some whacko religious nutjob moving to my area and pulling this crap.

Oh noes! You'll have to buy your bc pills at another pharmacy!

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: beyoku
Hmmm, i remember just about EVERYONE being against those Somalians that refused to pickup passengers carrying alcohol. Its funny how peoples opinions change when Islam is thrown into the mix.

Face-palm.

The taxi drivers DO offer the service of giving rides to people. It's just not EVERYONE is allowed to ride in their cab.

Your analogy would be apt if the pharmacy DID sell BC, but just not to CERTAIN people (like unwed couples etc).

I believe the simple concepts mentioned here cannot be accepted because some people just have a hatred of anything religious. That hatred makes them irrational.

Fern

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
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#1 My point is that if you could just go to the store next door then fine, stock what you want, but when you are licensed and #2 regulated by the state that limits the number of stores that can carry these products As such doesn't it make sense that the state should require them to fill all legal prescriptions? If they don't have it on hand (everybody runs out of stuff occasionally) then order it in for them. Since there aren't pharmacies on every street corner flat out refusing to fill a legal prescription is ludicrous IMO.

Do everybody a favor and let someone else run the pharmacy.

If you don't want to sell alcohol then don't get the license. If you don't want to sell drugs then don't get the license

1. If you bothered to google, you'd see that there are other pharmacies in the same freakin plaza that DO sell BC.

2. For the umpteen time, pharmacy licenses are not limited (unlike those for taxicabs etc).

Fern

I'm not worried about how many pharmacies are available in Virgina. I don't live there. I'm worried about some whacko religious nutjob moving to my area and pulling this crap.

Oh noes! You'll have to buy your bc pills at another pharmacy!

Just wise and beautiful woman out the pills and quit acting like such a ballbaby.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: RichardE
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Again, they are imposing there own religious views on people by not making these products available.

Nope, not even close.

They are not imposing their views on you. You are always free to take BC if you want.

What they are doing is NOT catering to your views.

You, however, are trying to impose YOUR views on them.

Fern

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: RichardE
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Again, they are imposing there own religious views on people by not making these products available.

Nope, not even close.

They are not imposing their views on you. You are always free to take BC if you want.

What they are doing is NOT catering to your views.

You, however, are trying to impose YOUR views on them.

Fern

The pharmacist's job is to dispense pills, not morality.

He is not responsible for other people's choices, but (since it fits his agenda?) he is attempting to act as if he is.

A typical holy roller.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: beyoku
Hmmm, i remember just about EVERYONE being against those Somalians that refused to pickup passengers carrying alcohol. Its funny how peoples opinions change when Islam is thrown into the mix.

Face-palm.

The taxi drivers DO offer the service of giving rides to people. It's just not EVERYONE is allowed to ride in their cab.

Your analogy would be apt if the pharmacy DID sell BC, but just not to CERTAIN people (like unwed couples etc).

I believe the simple concepts mentioned here cannot be accepted because some people just have a hatred of anything religious. That hatred makes them irrational.

Fern

True. I really think that is why some of the people in here don't "get it".

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
to a degree, yes.


A pharmacist is a licensed professional, if they are morally unable to untake the demands of their profession, should have their license removed.

Government enforcing morality? LOL

You mean like dry counties or banning the sale on Sunday?

Exactly.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: RichardE
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Again, they are imposing there own religious views on people by not making these products available.

Nope, not even close.

They are not imposing their views on you. You are always free to take BC if you want.

What they are doing is NOT catering to your views.

You, however, are trying to impose YOUR views on them.

Fern

If they were the only business in the area who sold these items, would they be imposing there views than?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: RichardE
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Again, they are imposing there own religious views on people by not making these products available.

Nope, not even close.

They are not imposing their views on you. You are always free to take BC if you want.

What they are doing is NOT catering to your views.

You, however, are trying to impose YOUR views on them.

Fern

If they were the only business in the area who sold these items, would they be imposing there views than?

No. proximity to competition doesn't change anything.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

No. proximity to competition doesn't change anything.

Except the lives of the people being punished by the pharmacists radical views.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

No. proximity to competition doesn't change anything.

Except the lives of the people being punished by the pharmacists radical views.

:laugh: So a store not selling a product is punishment? You people are hilarious.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

Because you cant attack his logic, you attack him personally. *high five*

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

Winston is not a Conservative and he and I are on the same page. Even dealmonkey realized how silly some of the arguments were and he's basically a lib. So it's hilarious that you think this is about partisanship when it's about reality and common sense.

edit: crap - i wanted to edit the previous post instead of quote it. oh well.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: RichardE
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Again, they are imposing there own religious views on people by not making these products available.

Nope, not even close.

They are not imposing their views on you. You are always free to take BC if you want.

What they are doing is NOT catering to your views.

You, however, are trying to impose YOUR views on them.

Fern

If they were the only business in the area who sold these items, would they be imposing there views than?

No. proximity to competition doesn't change anything.

How so? If you are a healthcare provider who is dedicated by oath to aiding the suffering of humanity, than you are not simply a business, but a provider to humanity as well (something you accepted with your oath).

Personally, the more people who see this argument taking place, the faster the socialization of the healthcare industry will occur to protect against people ignorant of what healthcare service actually entails. You already showed your hypocritical stance by disagreeing with a muslims right to not have his religious views offendd (by accepting to drive or not to drive individuals alchohol). You have yet to make a convincing argument regarding this topic at all, besides "its ok for certain businesses to decide what they sell as long as it seems right to me".

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

It was a general question.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

Because you cant attack his logic, you attack him personally. *high five*

So when we going out for drinks?

Then you can high five me for real!

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

Because you cant attack his logic, you attack him personally. *high five*

So when we going out for drinks?

Then you can high five me for real!

I dont want to know what "high five" is a code word for.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

It was a general question.

Again, this is not even remotely partisan. Try again.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OMG!!! a private business refusing to sell certain things?


So dave(et al.) - should every pharmacy be force to carry and sell every drug/treatment?

the are licensed and regulated by the government, so no, they are not a private business.

You...don't..actually work for a living, do you? Every business in the U.S. is regulated to some extent. Got a TIN? Pay other companies? Pay employees? Have a physcial workplace?

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

It was a general question.

Again, this is not even remotely partisan. Try again.

In the sense that it is political, then it probably is partisan.

From the OP's linked article

The drug store is the seventh in the country to be certified as not prescribing birth control by Pharmacists for Life International. The anti-abortion group estimates that perhaps hundreds of other pharmacies have similar policies, though they have not been certified.

They even appear to have their own lobbying organization.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

lol, this has nothing to do with partisanship.

It was a general question.

Again, this is not even remotely partisan. Try again.

It's not even really related to the OP. It's an honest question:

Is there a Republican talking point that you disagree with?

I'd start a new thread but I wouldn't want to offend your delicate sensibilities.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Is there a single conservative talking point you disagree with, CAD? Or are you that big of a partisan tool?

Because you cant attack his logic, you attack him personally. *high five*

So when we going out for drinks?

Then you can high five me for real!

I dont want to know what "high five" is a code word for.

It's code for,

"Meet me at my favorite restaurant in Irvine and have a political discussion with me."