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CKDragon

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: CorCentral

Think of the best game out today that you like to play that's new and then try to imagine playing it with the Wii controller. You will be one pissed off gamer dealing with one fk'ed up controller!

It's a good thing that I think so many of the "best games today" suck. I'm excited about games with brand new gameplay, even if the characters are the same old Nintendo's classics.

I'll tell you what, you stick with the endless WWII shooters, GTA rip-offs, Gran Turismo/Need for Speed racing clones, EA Sports Extreme Badminton versions 2007 through 2015 and I'll try something very different that looks fun. I promise I won't be one "pissed off gamer" if I don't get to try the latest plain-jane 3d shoot 'em up that just slightly deviates from the same formula the industry has been milking for years.


I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.

How have you determined this? Just look at how the Wii has built up the excitement amongst gamers. Do you think that's because they're not ready to try the new controller?

Back when Nintendo simply discussed a new type of controller, people scoffed. Everyone was ready to write Nintendo off. Since then there's been almost unanimously positive reviews from people who have actually played the games on the Wii and everyone's clamoring to get their hands on one.

But your only point is that you would have trouble playing a game on the Wii that wasn't designed for the Wii?

No crap. Like I said, you can have the older games, there are going to be plenty of games designed specifically for this control system. What's so hard to understand about that?
 

dxkj

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Feb 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: CorCentral

Think of the best game out today that you like to play that's new and then try to imagine playing it with the Wii controller. You will be one pissed off gamer dealing with one fk'ed up controller!

It's a good thing that I think so many of the "best games today" suck. I'm excited about games with brand new gameplay, even if the characters are the same old Nintendo's classics.

I'll tell you what, you stick with the endless WWII shooters, GTA rip-offs, Gran Turismo/Need for Speed racing clones, EA Sports Extreme Badminton versions 2007 through 2015 and I'll try something very different that looks fun. I promise I won't be one "pissed off gamer" if I don't get to try the latest plain-jane 3d shoot 'em up that just slightly deviates from the same formula the industry has been milking for years.


I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.


Damn! Where did you get a chance to hold, use, and test out their new controllers?

What... you didnt?

what... you havn't atually designed and produces a succesful console yourself?

I don't get it... are you trying to tell us you've used the Wii and it sucks (to you), and that means it will suck for 90% of the gamers? Or can you just not think outside of the box? this is the controller, this is how it will always be, there is no way to improvei it.. repeat again....

I don't even want a Wii, won't be getting one, but sometimes ignorance is just too funny to ignore.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: CorCentral

Think of the best game out today that you like to play that's new and then try to imagine playing it with the Wii controller. You will be one pissed off gamer dealing with one fk'ed up controller!

It's a good thing that I think so many of the "best games today" suck. I'm excited about games with brand new gameplay, even if the characters are the same old Nintendo's classics.

I'll tell you what, you stick with the endless WWII shooters, GTA rip-offs, Gran Turismo/Need for Speed racing clones, EA Sports Extreme Badminton versions 2007 through 2015 and I'll try something very different that looks fun. I promise I won't be one "pissed off gamer" if I don't get to try the latest plain-jane 3d shoot 'em up that just slightly deviates from the same formula the industry has been milking for years.


I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.

Most games are not FPSes. :D Most games that FPS fans play are FPSes. And a normal console controller has always SUCKED for FPSes compared to a keyboard and mouse. The Wii controller + nunchuck looks like it could come the closest to mimicing a keyboard and mouse on a console. I'm still a little leary about how well it'll work on an FPS, but we'll see.

Anyway, I'm guessing that many games will be able to be controlled with EITHER the Wii controller or a GameCube controller, so if you really don't like it you could use a GameCube controller... some games will require a GameCube controller instead of a Wii controller because the Wii controller doesn't ALWAYS make sense.
 

SoulAssassin

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Feb 1, 2001
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Is there a list of what retro games will be available day 1 for download/purchase? I thought I remembered hearing that pretty much everything will be available at some point but I can't imagine that would be day 1...I would think it would just be 50 or so of the more popular retro games.
 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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Smart move on their part. The Wii's hype is epic (I've been a fan of it even before all the hype, but it's quite obvious that there is no way it can live up to the hype it has generated -- nothing ever does). So it is good to push as much stock as they can and get it into people's hands as quick as possible. The more people who want to buy it before even reading a review, the better. Using hype to move units is simply good business.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Is there a list of what retro games will be available day 1 for download/purchase? I thought I remembered hearing that pretty much everything will be available at some point but I can't imagine that would be day 1...I would think it would just be 50 or so of the more popular retro games.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/720/720002p1.html

Says 20-30 but no list has been announced as far as I know.

Edit: Wikipedia says 60, with 30 being Genesis and TG16 games. 10 more per month. Makes sense to release them occassionally, I think they'll get more sales that way than if they were all available at once.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: CorCentral

Think of the best game out today that you like to play that's new and then try to imagine playing it with the Wii controller. You will be one pissed off gamer dealing with one fk'ed up controller!

It's a good thing that I think so many of the "best games today" suck. I'm excited about games with brand new gameplay, even if the characters are the same old Nintendo's classics.

I'll tell you what, you stick with the endless WWII shooters, GTA rip-offs, Gran Turismo/Need for Speed racing clones, EA Sports Extreme Badminton versions 2007 through 2015 and I'll try something very different that looks fun. I promise I won't be one "pissed off gamer" if I don't get to try the latest plain-jane 3d shoot 'em up that just slightly deviates from the same formula the industry has been milking for years.


I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.


Damn! Where did you get a chance to hold, use, and test out their new controllers?

What... you didnt?

what... you havn't atually designed and produces a succesful console yourself?

I don't get it... are you trying to tell us you've used the Wii and it sucks (to you), and that means it will suck for 90% of the gamers? Or can you just not think outside of the box? this is the controller, this is how it will always be, there is no way to improvei it.. repeat again....

I don't even want a Wii, won't be getting one, but sometimes ignorance is just too funny to ignore.

LMAO!!!
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: Aflac
Are they still on track for 4 million by the end of this year?


End of their fiscal year which is 3/31...not calendar year.

They previously announced that they expected to ship 6 million by the end of March 07, 4 million by the end of the calendar year. That's total, not just NA. I thought they were expecting to ship 2 million for the launch date, and the majority would go to NA... so 1 million to NA on launch day is kind of disappointing.

1 out of 2 million is still a majority.

:confused:
since when is 50% or half a majority? 1.5 of 2 million is a majority...
basic math ftw?
 

Tom

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: CorCentral

Think of the best game out today that you like to play that's new and then try to imagine playing it with the Wii controller. You will be one pissed off gamer dealing with one fk'ed up controller!

It's a good thing that I think so many of the "best games today" suck. I'm excited about games with brand new gameplay, even if the characters are the same old Nintendo's classics.

I'll tell you what, you stick with the endless WWII shooters, GTA rip-offs, Gran Turismo/Need for Speed racing clones, EA Sports Extreme Badminton versions 2007 through 2015 and I'll try something very different that looks fun. I promise I won't be one "pissed off gamer" if I don't get to try the latest plain-jane 3d shoot 'em up that just slightly deviates from the same formula the industry has been milking for years.


I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.


I assume you haven,t played many Gamecue games ? If you had you would know that Nintendo doesn't just make 1000 variations of first person shooters, they make very innovative games, which will most likely go very well with the new controllers.


 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: Aflac
Are they still on track for 4 million by the end of this year?


End of their fiscal year which is 3/31...not calendar year.

They previously announced that they expected to ship 6 million by the end of March 07, 4 million by the end of the calendar year. That's total, not just NA. I thought they were expecting to ship 2 million for the launch date, and the majority would go to NA... so 1 million to NA on launch day is kind of disappointing.

1 out of 2 million is still a majority.

:confused:
since when is 50% or half a majority? 1.5 of 2 million is a majority...
basic math ftw?

Oh FFS, 1,000,001 units out of 2,000,000 units is a majority. Look in the dictionary FTW.
 

Adul

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Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: Aflac
Are they still on track for 4 million by the end of this year?


End of their fiscal year which is 3/31...not calendar year.

They previously announced that they expected to ship 6 million by the end of March 07, 4 million by the end of the calendar year. That's total, not just NA. I thought they were expecting to ship 2 million for the launch date, and the majority would go to NA... so 1 million to NA on launch day is kind of disappointing.

1 out of 2 million is still a majority.

:confused:
since when is 50% or half a majority? 1.5 of 2 million is a majority...
basic math ftw?

Oh FFS, 1,000,001 units out of 2,000,000 units is a majority. Look in the dictionary FTW.

1.5 of 2 mill is still a majority to ;)

 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.

:laugh:
I've been playing FPS games since Wolf3D, and I'm looking forward to seeing how they play on the Wii.
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

I can tell you frequent P&N. It is just the general tone you know? :p
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: CorCentral
I totally understand but you live in "todays" world where the games that most people desire and play are in the NOW, a new controller like this will not suffice. Like I said before...... Take this game for example (Call of Duty 2) and imagine playing it on this controller. Most games are Doom, COD, etc. type.
If the Wii does not fail, it will be because Nintendo or some other outside developer presents a "new" type of controller.

:laugh:
I've been playing FPS games since Wolf3D, and I'm looking forward to seeing how they play on the Wii.

I hope better than the DS. I was excited to try the DS FPS games and metroid just hurt my hand :(
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: Aflac
Are they still on track for 4 million by the end of this year?


End of their fiscal year which is 3/31...not calendar year.

They previously announced that they expected to ship 6 million by the end of March 07, 4 million by the end of the calendar year. That's total, not just NA. I thought they were expecting to ship 2 million for the launch date, and the majority would go to NA... so 1 million to NA on launch day is kind of disappointing.

1 out of 2 million is still a majority.

:confused:
since when is 50% or half a majority? 1.5 of 2 million is a majority...
basic math ftw?

Oh FFS, 1,000,001 units out of 2,000,000 units is a majority. Look in the dictionary FTW.

OK, quit being so anal. THINK! If Nintendo was planning on sending half to North America, don't you think they would have said half? Since they said the majority instead of half, it stands to reason that it's somewhat more than half. Probably somewhat more than half + 1 too. Probably at least 60%. Especially considering Sony is doing 80/20 for NA/Japan. OK, so with that in mind, and now knowing that Nintendo is shipping 1 million wiis to North America, it APPEARS that they may not have 2 million available for the launch like they said they would.

Hell I don't care, I just hope I can get one this year.
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Who cares if it's "just" 1 million and not 2 million? That's a hell of a lot more than for the 360 or the PS3 will have. And is this systems literally on the shelves at launch day, or 1 million for the "launch window"? If it's launch day systems then we can expect to see several shipments to stores before Christmas in addition to the 1 million launch day systems. This bodes very well for system availability and should help kill off the ebay scalpers. With a little bit of work I was able to get a 360 before Christmas last year without a pre-order, the same task will hopefully be easier with the Wii.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Who cares if it's "just" 1 million and not 2 million? That's a hell of a lot more than for the 360 or the PS3 will have. And is this systems literally on the shelves at launch day, or 1 million for the "launch window"? If it's launch day systems then we can expect to see several shipments to stores before Christmas in addition to the 1 million launch day systems. This bodes very well for system availability and should help kill off the ebay scalpers. With a little bit of work I was able to get a 360 before Christmas last year without a pre-order, the same task will hopefully be easier with the Wii.

They're expecting to ship 4 million total worldwide by the end of the calendar year. Hopefully they'll be easy to come by.
 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: Aflac
Are they still on track for 4 million by the end of this year?


End of their fiscal year which is 3/31...not calendar year.

They previously announced that they expected to ship 6 million by the end of March 07, 4 million by the end of the calendar year. That's total, not just NA. I thought they were expecting to ship 2 million for the launch date, and the majority would go to NA... so 1 million to NA on launch day is kind of disappointing.

1 out of 2 million is still a majority.

:confused:
since when is 50% or half a majority? 1.5 of 2 million is a majority...
basic math ftw?

Oh FFS, 1,000,001 units out of 2,000,000 units is a majority. Look in the dictionary FTW.

OK, quit being so anal. THINK! If Nintendo was planning on sending half to North America, don't you think they would have said half? Since they said the majority instead of half, it stands to reason that it's somewhat more than half. Probably somewhat more than half + 1 too. Probably at least 60%. Especially considering Sony is doing 80/20 for NA/Japan. OK, so with that in mind, and now knowing that Nintendo is shipping 1 million wiis to North America, it APPEARS that they may not have 2 million available for the launch like they said they would.

Hell I don't care, I just hope I can get one this year.

Maybe, but more people will get excited about hearing the majority of 2 million, not half of 2 million. Maybe they won't even have 2 million units on launch date. If it's under 2 mill total, but 1 mill still go to North America, then it's still a majority.

Point is, anything over half is a majority. You can't argue that.
 

her34

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Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

yeah, why is making 1 million of a overclocked 5 year old console, special and comparable to xbox360 or ps3 launch?
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: supafly
Maybe they won't even have 2 million units on launch date. If it's under 2 mill total, but 1 mill still go to North America, then it's still a majority.

Er... yeah, that's exactly my point - I think this means they're shipping less than they previously planned.

Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

yeah, why is making 1 million of a overclocked 5 year old console, special and comparable to xbox360 or ps3 launch?

Because people can't wait to play them.
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

yeah, why is making 1 million of a overclocked 5 year old console, special and comparable to xbox360 or ps3 launch?

WTF are you even talking about?
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

yeah, why is making 1 million of a overclocked 5 year old console, special and comparable to xbox360 or ps3 launch?

because they made it so it would sell to non-gamers. and they actually profit on the sale.
 

her34

Senior member
Dec 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: Todd33
One million huh? I guess they had one million left over GCs to re-package.

yeah, why is making 1 million of a overclocked 5 year old console, special and comparable to xbox360 or ps3 launch?

WTF are you even talking about?


i'm talking about the original quote this thread is based on

WTF are you reading

"We're looking at a million (units) for North America at launch," said Bertram. "When Sony came out (with their PS3 announcement), they said 300,000.
 

DurocShark

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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4 million is flooding.

Yes, I think the prices will drop quick. Especially once the PS3 hits the market.